Well, they both stem from the notion that the removal or eradication by force of an offending entity (in both cases obviously a badly misunderstood entity)is an acceptable solution. Both violence against others and violence against self are misplaced, neurotic solutions.

This has nothing to do with the question in the thread title. The simplicity is that the question posed is not, in fact, a question that can be answered, at least not in a meaningful way. It's just an exercise in gas-slinging. Everyone knows the American way is hamburgers.

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