uhmmm? am I missing something here? The only "violence" and fury I see in this thread is over the refusal of the originator to explain WHY she feels that the statistics she qoutes prove a violent America. I *still* do not see what the milatary budget or suicide stratistics have to do with a culture of violence, or the incidence of violent crime.

Daylia herself said that she felt the increased deaths by gun were probably due to availability rather then an inherent increase of violent tendencies (contridicting her own premise)