"How about some proof from YOU that Bush is a liar?"

My belief has always been that you start from the assumpton that any politician can be expected to lie when it suits them. There are probably some exceptions, but that's the way to bet.

We were told that Saddam Hussein had a whole range of weapons of mass detruction which he was able to unleash on the world whenever he wanted to, and that any delay in getting in there and destroying them was too great a risk to take.

Whatever real (or contrived) evidence might be revealed, it is now crystal clear that this picture we were given, on the basis of which our representatives were induced to back the war, was not the truth.

This leaves open two possibilities. (a) The people who told us this actually believed what they said, but had been misled by incompetent intelligence; or (b) they were lying. (All right - a third option, theoretically anyway - (c) the intelligence knew the truth, but lied, and the politcians believed the lies. The old trick, blame the king's advisers, not the king.)

You pays your money and you takes your choice.