Claymore, I haven't seen anyone suggest there would be any military takeovers. Hell, even the Soviet Union's military collapsed quickly once the wall went down. The soldiers just left and went home. Or don't you remember that part?

What some of us are saying is that there would be peaceful civilian secession from the union, a breaking up of the US into regional governments. A nationalist agenda can't be supported if citizens stop sending their taxes to Washington, and the soldiers go home.

BTW, the Midwest could live without Washington or the South quite handily. Not only are we still the nation's breadbasket, but we have a good amount of healthy industries, resources, in most areas, a solid physical and social infrastructure that hasn't been destroyed (yet) by Neo-Cons.

You aren't seriously suggesting the South would invade us, are you?

I guess I'm quite surprised there are some right leaning people who can't conceive of a USA that won't live forever. As in can't even get their head around the idea.

Nothing lives forever, and that has nothing to do with human endeavors. It has to do with something much more powerful--nature. That is why all empire is folly. We can't defeat nature. Not now, not ever.