I don't know, Carol C, isn't it gilding the past a bit to say that most of U.S. history was about the goals of democracy and freedom? It's true. But a lot of other things were going on, were also true, at the same time, all along.

I really don't believe Bush can be re-elected, but I could be wrong--I didn't see the Oscars, which usually restores my pessimistic viewpoint. The shame is that the party system insures that R's run Bush instead of a better, more qualified conservative candidate.

Nader was the first person I thought of at the term Social Entrepreneur, but I admire him more as that, and couldn't vote for him as a candidate. He's a hero of mine, but has also made some serious mis-judgements about people. And I think it would be hard for him to be very effective even if he won. He's already too big an influence to be re-cast into the role of chief exec. It'd be like watching Robert Duval do a tv sit-com. I don't want to see it.

   Doug R, your posts are too short, I still don't know what you think was so significant, but then, oh well, I probably wouldn't understand it anyway.