Yes, but that's two out of how many thousands? It just takes one bad apple (to drag this kicking and screaming back to music... wasnt' that a hit by the Jackson 5, when Michael was still a sweet black boy instead of a twisted white woman?) to spoil the lot for everyone.

I've met some bloody good bodhrain players in my time, but only one of them had enough sense to know when NOT to play.

LTS