Thanks bbc, Eric got me the beach camping, he's got me doing shanties with others both days. I hoping that the Hudson isn't to cold, I might not want to take a dip if there's an offshore breeze could be dangerous. Is the Hudson in that area clean enough to swim in, I'm assuming it is but? Thanks for the Offer but I think Joe is still taken. No really, depending on the weather I may take you guys up on that but I do things like that at last minutes & I woulndn't want to mess up any of your plans. Thanks again, Barry