First off, with regard to scoring. The lot of you need to learn proper scoring technique. It is all based on the Irish notion of "It's my story. I tell it, you swear to it". If you don't understand that, you need to do some homework.

Steve, it is 3 to 3.5 hours after you cross the bridge. A good 6 hours or so from Toronto to Muskegon. There are many opportunities for a jar of the vile dark stuff along the way. This will increase the time. If you should stop to visit with Clinton, add an additional 2 days for recovery time.

As to the time it takes me, this is simple. I am quite mad. I drive like a proper madman should.

Finally..........Noddy............it is Big Mick. Please read the last paragraph. Do you really want a madman, whose handle includes the world "Big" pissed at you????? ........Mick wanders off mumbling and looking for a scythe

Mick