Mick.

As example of how close our views actually are, on this subject, the point that you make about Mr Major's government, was one that I did intend to make in my last post.

I was amazed to read this though.

I generally have come to the conclusion that replying to your posts is not useful. As it relates to my posts, you seem to feel the need to prove me wrong as opposed to debating the issues. You question my motives and analyse me instead of the subject. For a primer on what I am looking for in a discussion, re-read Penny's post. It is excellent, and enlightens. It is that type of discussion that I am looking for."

For apart from the 'Sapper' thread, when I did criticise your position, it has been you that has questioned my motives and loyalties and detected personal comments toward you, when they were not. I do not think that there was anything in my last posting, that justifies your comments, for it was your expressed views and their effect, that I was questioning.

As I pointed out, it was at your invitation that I went back and looked at your comments and you have made other such invitations. If I come back, having done so, it is surely a bit rich to then accuse me of having "the need to prove you wrong"? If I had agreed with them I would have said so.

These issues and this place are much bigger and more important than either you or I and strange as it may seem, it is not mine or anyone's responsibility to provide here the "type of discussion that I am looking for".

We might not always get what we want, but we maybe sometimes get what we deserve?