wilco48, before you start a thread like this, you should issue airsick bags!

These two people you seem to admire so much may indeed have the courage of their convictions, but their convictions are what's in question. A couple of hungry barracuda have the courage of their convictions and a whole lot of resolve also, but allowing them to be in charge of a couple of countries and a huge military machine is not too bright an idea.

Don Firth