So, my NYC friend, dont expect a fair shake on any issue involving Israel. We will not convince them with history or reality. all we can do is call them what they are, refute their lies and one sided reports, and strive to maintain our own humanity in these horrible times.

Musicmic, I have already documented the falsity of the "history" you cling to. And my sources are Jewish and in many cases, Israeli Jews. You can't make a case that they are anti-Semitic.

And you can't strive to maintain a humanity that you are trying so vigorously to discard. Inextricably tied to your humanity is your recognition of the humanity of others, something I don't see you being particularly willing to do.

We must never become the evil we contest.

It's too late. It's already happened. Now the best you can do is to admit that you are no better than any of the rest of us, make your apologies, and strive to do better. As humans, that's the best any of us can do. We're all culpable, and none of us has clean hands. Not even you.