HA HA Frank! I have tried for forty years to find/invent an "up and down pick". NUthin' works. I've had to invent a hybrid style that works great fo me but is devilishly hard to show other people. Thumbpick (verrrry tight 'cuz I play pretty hard.....or used to before I started fighting cancer) and two modified heavy guage fingerpicks. The thumb and index (and often middle) are constantly crossing over each other.

I can duplicate the SOUND of frailing, flatpicking, and fake classical, but it's only because I was called on to play for so many diverse players in the late sixties and early seventies. (Oscar B, Odetta, Tom Rush, Ian Tyson, G. Lightfoot, and even Casey Anderson who spent a lot of time in Toronto...do you remember him?

Cheers

Rick