Don: I had not yet read the admirable defense of Hope and others that you posted. Thank you. You and Ron have both been fair. I do ask that, at some time, you study the general tone of the Mudcat discussions. There is only one side making the personal attacks, the other side is merely fighting back. That is how I see it. Politics has been part of folk music for a long time, but right now the left seems to be driving out anyone who won't toe the line, living or dead. Again, that is how I see it. God bless Bob Hope.