Subject: songs on emigration From: GUEST,songester Date: 02 Oct 07 - 09:18 AM I am looking for songs on emigration, CD's, LP's, books anything . . can anyone point me in the right direction. I have a few but would like some more, traditional or modern. songester |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: The Sandman Date: 02 Oct 07 - 09:40 AM Rambling irishman,Paddys green shamrock shore,van diemans land,englands motorways,cricklewood. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Fred McCormick Date: 02 Oct 07 - 09:44 AM A lot of Lps and CDs of traditional Irish singing in English have one or two among emigration songs the track listings. However, I'd recommend Topic's exile/emigration disc in the series Voice of the People; FAREWELL, MY OWN DEAR NATIVE LAND. Songs of Exile & Emigration. Topic TSCD 654 |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,songster Date: 02 Oct 07 - 09:56 AM Thanks Fred, a great help, I will have a look at that and buy it if possible. songester |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Henryp Date: 02 Oct 07 - 10:14 AM Have you any particular origins or destinations in mind? |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Mark H. Date: 02 Oct 07 - 10:43 AM Robin Williamson, Songs of Love and Parting: "Return No More". |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Ian Date: 02 Oct 07 - 12:07 PM Green Fields of Canada to recruit or enforced as in Transported such as Jim Jones, Botany Bay, or Slavery The Flying Cloud |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,im Carroll Date: 02 Oct 07 - 02:52 PM There's a large, not very well produced book called 'Songs of Irish Emigration' by an American (? White?). Don't have it but saw it on Amazon once - pricey Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Jim Carroll Date: 03 Oct 07 - 05:35 AM Sorry - Wright - it's a published thesis. Jim Carroll |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Chris Date: 03 Oct 07 - 03:01 PM Ian Tupling from LocTup Together wrote a beautiful song called "Leaving the Green". It's on the album "Further down the Road" |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Huw Date: 03 Oct 07 - 03:22 PM I have a song,written with Chris Hastings, called The Famine Ship about emigration from Ireland during the 1848 famine. Huw Pudner |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: bobad Date: 03 Oct 07 - 03:48 PM Buffy Sainte Marie wrote a song "Welcome, Welcome Emigrante" which is on The Best Of Broadside compilation released in 2000. I couldn't find the lyrics on line but I have the recording and can transcribe the lyrics if you would like them. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GeoffLawes Date: 03 Oct 07 - 05:38 PM Peta Webb's 1973 TOPIC LP, I HAVE WANDERED IN EXILE , includes The Moorlough Shore and The Lovely Banks Of Lea, as well as I Have Wandered In Exile, all of which are Irish emigrant songs full of the longing for home. This is a great LP by a great singer with a great voice who sings with total sympathy for the songs - certainly one of my desert island discs. The LP has been re-issued by a Japanese company as a CD under the series title of British Folk Paper Sleeve Collection and is distributed by Vivid Sound Corporation, VSCD-831, perhaps Camsco can get it? More readily available is Kate McGarrigle's song Jaques et Gilles about Canadian migration but also touching on Irish emigration. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Chicken Charlie Date: 03 Oct 07 - 09:00 PM An old one called "Across the Western Ocean" was discovered & recorded by (an American 'song catcher' named) Arthur Smith. Times are hard and the wages are low; Amelia, where you bound for? [This is always 2nd line.] The Rocky Mountains are my home, Across the Western Ocean. [Always fourth line] Beware the packet ships they say; Amelia ... They'll steal your clothes and stores away, Across... There's Liverpool Pat and his tarpaulin hat, Amelia ... And Yankee Jack, the packet rat, Across... Father and mother, don't you cry, Amelia ... Sister and brother, say good-bye, Across .... [Tag] Across the Western Ocean. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Chicken Charlie Date: 03 Oct 07 - 09:15 PM Sorry about shooting a blank; I keep hitting enter when tab is appropriate. Hm@#ph!?xxx Now then: Can't remember who recorded this. Try title search "Fille-me-o-re-ae" or a reasonable facsimile thereof. Sometimes sounds like filly-rye-oh, etc. In eighteen hundred 'n' farty-two I left the home me faither knew; Bad cess to the luck that brought me through To workin' on the railway. Filly rye oh, rye oh, ay a [three times] [Then repeat fourth line of verse]. In eighteen hundred 'n' farty-three, 'Tis this I met sweet Biddy McGee, An elegant wife she made for me, For workin' on the railway. In ... farty-six, They pelted me with stones & bricks; I was in an awful fix For .... In ... farty-seven, Sweet Biddy McGee, she went ta hiven; She left one child, she left eliven, Workin' on the railway. In ... farty-eight, I larned to drink me w'iskey straight; An elegant drink it seemed to make For workin' on the railway. Also don't forget that "Wild Colonial Boy" is about a born Irishman who goes Down Under and becomes a bush ranger. Gets killed of course; otherwise why have a song? Oh, and it used to be illegal to sing it in Australia, but that was a long time gone. Stan Rogers [Rodgers? can't recall] of Canada wrote "The House of Orange," about an Irishman who moves to Canada. Then the local IRA rep calls to get a donation, and the fellow has had it with "The Struggle" & doesn't want any part of it anymore. "I took back my hand, and I showed him the door; No dollar of mine would I part with this day For fuelin' the engines of bloody cruel war, In my forefather's home far away." Etc., etc. and etc. Long but moving. If you can't find any of these gems on record or CD or edison cylinder or whatever, I could send you a tape or CD of it/them. Yours Chicken Charlie carter_timelines@hotmail.com |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,songster Date: 04 Oct 07 - 09:07 AM I have all of Stan Rodgers albums and most of all of the above ballads you have suggested (not all, though I wish I had) You have been very helpful, I have been asked to sing at a session and the idea is we all pick a theme, I was thinking of Emigration but wanted something slightly different (not the usual popular ballads) old, more modern, orange, green anything that would be 'different' You have all been very helpful, thanks. If anyone has any more ballads that spring to mind please post them. The session isn't for another six weeks yet. Songester |
Subject: Lyr Add: SONS AND DAUGHTERS (Harvey Andrews) From: GUEST,harvey andrews Date: 04 Oct 07 - 10:45 AM SONS AND DAUGHTERS Sons and daughters leaving Going far away See them sadly waving Wishing they could stay All they see about them Darkness and decay Sons and daughters leaving Going far away Job in South Australia Out along a bay House with half an acre Mortgage they can pay Sandy beach and blue sky Safe for children's play Job in South Australia Out along a bay Letting go the children Telling them goodbye See you in the summer Yes I know you'll try A better life for certain Break the bonds that tie Letting go the children Telling them goodbye Should have gone in '80 Things were different then Now you're so much older Couldn't start again Smile and say it's all right That was way back when Should have gone in '80 Things were different then So you're on your own now That's the way life goes Home's too big and empty Bid for bungalows Learn to send an e mail Leaving out life's woes So you're on your own now That's the way life goes With sons and daughters leaving Going far away See them sadly waving Wishing they could stay All they see about them Darkness and decay Sons and daughters leaving Going far away Sons and daughters leaving For a better day cd "Somewhere in the stars" |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST Date: 04 Oct 07 - 10:59 AM She left the fair shores of her own native Ireland; She left them at noon on a sunshiny day. She bade fond farewell to her friends and relations And she set sail for America so far far away. It was little she thought as she stepped on the liner That bore her away from the Foyle's sunny shore It was little she thought as she stepped on the liner That her own beloved Derry she'd never see more. She landed one morning in New York's big city Amidst all the hustle and bustle and care And she gazed in surprise at the New York skyscrapers And wished she was back home in her Derry so fare. For years there she worked in a big mill in Boston; The room it was dark and no sun did shine there. And the roses soon left the cheeks of young Ethna, And she pined like a caged bird for Derry so fair. One night as she lay in her cold attic chamber She dreamed that her own darling truelove was there. But it was the angel of Death that so softly came nigh her And took away Ethna from this sad world of care. We dug her a grave out at Holy Cross Abbey Where many the exile a grave has found there; One small sprig of shamrock we planted above her And she sleeps her last sleep far far from Derry so fair. |
Subject: ADD: Derry So Fair From: GUEST,Young Buchan Date: 04 Oct 07 - 11:02 AM Derry So Fair Collected by Robin Morton in Ulster in the 60s. Ought to remember the singer, but can't. She left the fair shores of her own native Ireland; She left them at noon on a sunshiny day. She bade fond farewell to her friends and relations And she set sail for America so far far away. It was little she thought as she stepped on the liner That bore her away from the Foyle's sunny shore It was little she thought as she stepped on the liner That her own beloved Derry she'd never see more. She landed one morning in New York's big city Amidst all the hustle and bustle and care And she gazed in surprise at the New York skyscrapers And wished she was back home in her Derry so fare. For years there she worked in a big mill in Boston; The room it was dark and no sun did shine there. And the roses soon left the cheeks of young Ethna, And she pined like a caged bird for Derry so fair. One night as she lay in her cold attic chamber She dreamed that her own darling truelove was there. But it was the angel of Death that so softly came nigh her And took away Ethna from this sad world of care. We dug her a grave out at Holy Cross Abbey Where many the exile a grave has found there; One small sprig of shamrock we planted above her And she sleeps her last sleep far far from Derry so fair. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Bob the Postman Date: 04 Oct 07 - 12:49 PM This recent thread is relevant. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Ruth Archer Date: 04 Oct 07 - 01:07 PM Phil chevron's Thousands Are Sailing, recorded by The Pogues, is a great song juxtaposing the 19th-century mass emigration from Ireland to America with that which happened in the 1980s. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Mr. Norrell Date: 04 Oct 07 - 01:34 PM just copied this from my copy of thi, unfortunately out of print, book. You might find a copy in a used book shop near you... Donald A. Fergusson, general editor. From the Farthest Hebrides (1978). MacMillan, London, UK. ISBN 0333247604. Provides tunes, Gaelic words, metrical English translations, and historical notes for Gaelic songs of the Hebridean and Highland immigrants to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. Includes about 100 songs of the sea, heroic songs of North Uist, love songs, labor songs, and others. hope this helps :-) |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Fliss Date: 04 Oct 07 - 01:58 PM singer Sean Keane http://www.seankeane.com/sounds.html#The_man_thatiam Isle of Hope, Isle of Tears - about Ellis Island |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Big Mick Date: 04 Oct 07 - 02:06 PM May I strongly suggest a CD by a Dublin man who lives in Florida and performs in the States. His name is Brendan Nolan. He did a CD titled "Across the Great Divide" which has a number of original and trad songs of immigration. Included on this CD is a song which I consider one of the finest stories of the coffin ships ever written. It is called "Far From Their Homes". For those that go to Getaway, this is the song I did years ago at my first Getaway that inspired Edd Trickett to pass an original song on to me which I then recorded, titled "Along the Famine Road". Get Brendan's CD. You won't regret it. All the best, Mick |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Mr. Norrell Date: 04 Oct 07 - 03:25 PM Striking For Another Land - The Albion Band (1989 line up) from their record Give Me a Saddle, I'll Trade You a Car. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Bill Hahn//\\ Date: 04 Oct 07 - 03:39 PM Try some material by Si Kahn---talks of European and Jewish immigration to the U S. ONe particularly good piece--He Lies In The American Land. Have played it many a time on both my programs on WFDU--Sunday Simcha and Traditions Bill Hahn |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: PeadarOfPortsmouth Date: 04 Oct 07 - 04:27 PM A CD you might consider is a compliation called "Thousands are Sailing", which has many of the songs already listed. Two songs that I particularly enjoy that I didn't see mentioned: "Kilkenny" -- Robbie O'Connell and Mick Moloney had a nice version on an album of the same name "Leaving Nancy" -- written by Eric Bogle about leaving his mother in Scotland Good luck. Peter |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Bill Hahn//\\ Date: 04 Oct 07 - 06:19 PM This may be a reach--the song Anatevka from Fiddler on the Roof. This is sung by the daughter who will be leaving with her Christian husband and will, hopefully, go to the New World--well, across the big pond. Bill Hahn |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Mr Norrell Date: 05 Oct 07 - 11:13 AM I'll really stretch the point here..... The Immigrant Song - Led Zeppelin *LOL* |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Jane Birch. Date: 05 Oct 07 - 06:49 PM The Reason I left Mullingar, fairly recent but a good one. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Bainbo Date: 05 Oct 07 - 07:46 PM Letter From America by Craig and Charlie Reid, The Proclaimers. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,mg Date: 05 Oct 07 - 08:42 PM when I first came to this land...in Dutch. Oleana..in Norwegian..English words are too awful..mg |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Bardan Date: 05 Oct 07 - 08:52 PM Well a lot of these haven't been mentioned yet so I thought I'd give you a list of ones I like on the subject. Lots of them have been played and replayed by everyone under the sun but good songs none the less. Spancill Hill City of Chicago Missing you Paddy's lament (Sinead O'Connor did a very good version of this in her sean nos nua album) Skibereen Kilkelly Ireland Far away in Australia The Leaving of Liverpool Carrickfergus Paddy Reilly The deportee (possibly) Nothing but the same old story There are two or three great ones about being sent to australia as well, my favourites being 'I wish I was back home in Derry' and 'let the rope soap and calico take me'. I hesitate to add it as this one really has been overplayed to nausea inducing lengths but the fields of Athenry is a good one as well. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: The Walrus Date: 05 Oct 07 - 09:16 PM No one has mentioned the 'Hit' song of the Crimean War "CHEER BOYS, CHEER" - From the line "The star of Emipre gltters in the West", I assume that it's emigration to Canada. W |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: open mike Date: 06 Oct 07 - 12:32 AM there is a swedish / english c.d. from CAPRICE records which chronicles the emigration of nearly 1.3 million swedes to the u.s. between 1840 and 1930. The title is "From Sweden to America" Swedish Emigrant Songs Amerikavisor. It contains songs recorded from 1914 to 1980. It is on Caprice Records and is their catalog number 21552.http://www.caprice.rikskonserter.se/ |
Subject: ADD: Mary Clare Malloy (Tom Russell) From: GUEST,AnneMC Date: 06 Oct 07 - 12:55 AM My favourite emigration song is is called "Mary Clare Malloy", written by Tom Russell, and sung by Dolores Keane on Tom Russell's CD titled "The Man From God Knows Where" .
(Tom Russell) (With Intro tune first of "Staten Island' on the fiddle) 1. My name is Mary Clare Malloy, I was born in County Cork At 18 years of age I sailed for the shores of olde New York With seven hundred picture brides, all torn 'tween hope and fear At last we spied Manhattan and the famous Isle of Tears 2. My first taste of the New World turned to ashes very fast The ones who entered freely were from first and second class We steerage folk remained on board as if we were exiles, The captain turned the ship around and sailed to Ellis Isle 3. We disembarked and stood in line with chalks marks on our coats "X" for mental illness, if "E" back on the boat They asked us what our breeding was and could we read or write Oh, the sound of women weeping swept the dormitories at night 4. My best friend was deported back to a poor Killea home Another sent to Swinbourne Isle died of cholera alone The rest of us were shipped to trains, bound for Midwest States To wild and stormy prairie lands, and our prospective mates He's an American Primitive man In an American Primitive Land Irish eyes and calloused hands American Primitive man |
Subject: ADD: The Setting (Ralph McTell) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 06 Oct 07 - 05:49 AM As a dumb guitarist I think I would pick Ralph Mctell's The Setting as my favourite THE SETTING (Ralph McTell) I will never forget oh the walk to the station Me with your suitcase being brotherly strong And just trying to make light of this whole situation In light conversation we moved through the throng And above all the roar of the town was the blue sky I could hear the birds singing for the joy of the day There was no support for the city forthcoming No sympathy numbing you going away And its so hard to say goodbye There was you with your bright eyes and best dress for travelling Me in my work clothes unshaven and so plain Oh I fully intended to put in the half day But my good intention went with you / on the train So I never looked back as the train left the station Crossed over the road and walked into the park It was there in the bar some old man was singing And I sat there drinking until it got dark Outside the trees they grew starlings like apples Their hustle and chatter not dampened by the rain That washed down the pavement into the gutter Soaked through my clothes as I set out again So hard to say goodbye And above me the stars were all hidden by rain clouds The songs of the old man still locked in my brain Oh of emigration the curse of our nation The setting now fitting his sad sweet refrain So hard to say goodbye |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Young Buchan Date: 06 Oct 07 - 06:32 AM Re. Bardan Leaving of Liverpool is surely a sailor embarking on a long sea voyage - hardly emigration. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Mick Tems Date: 06 Oct 07 - 07:32 AM I wrote a song called A Tale Of Two Rivers, about many Welsh miners crossing the Atlantic to work in the American mines, from Scranton, Pennsylvania, down south to Virginia and as far west as Arizona and California. It was the theme song of a show called A Tale Of Two Rivers, again written by me, sponsored by the former Taff-Ely council (Taff and Ely - two rivers - Geddit?) A bevy of Welsh dancers, storytellers and me and Pat as Calennig took on tour around the South Wales and to America, where the gigantic Festival Of Wales in Harrisburg offered to pay for it. Unfortunately my massive stroke impeded that. We were planning to record it on a CD, but I sat and watched the others jet off to Harrisburg. The CD was put on hold and Calennig broke up. Now, Pat Smith and Ned Clamp have recorded The Tale Of Two Rivers, so it won't disappear altogether. Other songs of emigration: The wonderful ballad-poet Harri Webb wrote The Stars Of Mexico, and the beautiful Patagonia (about the Welsh-speaking Christian emigrants who set sail for a land far away. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Mick Tems Date: 06 Oct 07 - 07:58 AM ...Which reminds me: On our many American tours, Calennig played a show at the University of Nanticoke, Pennsylvania, put on by Jack and Sandy Pritchard of the Welsh Society. The mark left by those emigrant Welsh miners was starkly obvious - we looked out at Nanticoke, and it was just like the Rhondda Valley, only much grander! Pennsylvania is peppered with Welsh names, and Nanticoke seemed a Welshier name than most - but we were wrong. It seemed that Nanticoke was an American Native chief, who sold the land to the settlers! Mick Tems |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Simon G Date: 06 Oct 07 - 08:19 AM Tim O'Brien's CD The Crossing. My favourite is A Mountaineer Is Always Free. Lost Little Children is great, but I'm never sure I want to imagine what happened to them after the song. A Mountaineer Is Always Free ©1998 Pierce Pettis and Tim OBrien I'm one of the few, proud to be standing I walked up the pier from the coffin ships landing My clothes were just rags, no use in this weather But my back was strong, my hands tough as leather I climbed up these hills till I came to the spot where I stand I cleared these fields and I pulled up the stumps with my hands No more a wanderer, no more a refugee A mountaineer is always free Took a Cherokee bride, she gave me five babies I sang at the wakes, I cried at the weddings I taught all my children the songs of my youth To dance to the fiddle and practice the truth I carried them up on my shoulders to where they could see The whole world before them just so they would know what it means No more a wanderer, no more a refugee A mountaineer is always free No kings and no landlords to treat us like beggars and thieves Theres no one but God here to fear or to look down on me No more a wanderer, no more a refugee A mountaineer is always free |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: open mike Date: 06 Oct 07 - 02:11 PM the entire album "The Man From God Knows Where" concerns itself with immigration and emigration. Tom Russell explores his roots in this epic work. it is recorded on Hightone records in 1998 |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Bardan Date: 09 Oct 07 - 03:07 PM Young Buchan, you're probably right. I think it must just be because dad always sang it after 'far away in Australia' so my young mind assumed the themes were similar. Does he say he's coming back in one of the verses? Only he doesn't in the chorus, so maybe it's still an interpretation that works logically if not in the context of the place time other songs etc... |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Cookieless Eddie1 Date: 09 Oct 07 - 03:16 PM Marnie - written I believe by Jean Ritchie though I first heard it from Jean Redpath - is about the Scots who emigrated to Virginia to find all the best land taken and left there for Newfoundland. Eddie |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Stewart Date: 09 Oct 07 - 03:40 PM The Emigrant by Joseph Campbell, Irishry 1913 from The Oxford Book of Ireland The cart is yoked before the door, And time will let us dance no more. Come, fiddler, now, and play for me 'Farewell to barn and stack and tree.' To-day the fields looked wet and cold, The mearings gapped, the cattle old. Things are not what they used to be - 'Farewell to barn and stack and tree.' I go, without the heart to go, To kindred that I hardly know. Drink, neighbour, drink a health with me - 'Farewell to barn and stack and tree.' Five hours will see me stowed aboard, The gang-plank up, the ship unmoored. Christ grant no tempest shakes the sea - 'Farewell to barn and stack and tree.' I recite this poem before singing A STOR MO CHROI (Treasure of my Heart) Words by Brian O'Higgins (1882-1949) A Stor Mo Chroi, when you're far away From the home that you'll soon be leaving, Sure it's many a time by night and by day That your heart will be sorely grieving. For the stranger's land may be bright and fair, And rich in all treasures golden. You'll pine, I know, for the long, long ago And the heart that is never olden. A Stor Mo Chroi, in the stranger's land There's plenty of wealth and wailing. Though gems adorn the rich and grand There are faces with hunger paling. The road may be weary, and hard to tread And the lights of the city blind you. Oh turn, A Stor, to old Erin's shore And the ones you have left behind you. A Stor Mo Chroi, when the evening's mist O'er mountain and meadow is falling, Oh turn, A Stor, from the throng and list And maybe you'll hear me calling. For the sound of a voice that you seldom hear For somebody's speedy return. Aroon, aroon, Won't you come back soon To the one who really loves you. Cheers, S. in Seattle |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Rich (bodhránaí gan ciall) Date: 09 Oct 07 - 05:11 PM The Shamrock Shore as sung by Paul Brady on the Molloy Brady Peoples album, while being directed towards people still in Ireland form the the point of view of one still in Ireland, does lament the fate of those forced to leave. Rich |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,songster Date: 10 Oct 07 - 07:04 AM I have been spoiled by the wide choice of songs you have noted. If I can't get something out of all of these something is wrong. Thanks to you all Songster |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Young Buchan Date: 10 Oct 07 - 07:24 AM The concentration seems heavily on Irish emigration. To redress the balance slightly what about A Miner's Dream of Home and The Song of the Thrush? |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,HughM Date: 10 Oct 07 - 08:06 AM Goodbye, Muirsheen Durkin, sure I'm sick and tired of working.... |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Alan Ross Date: 10 Oct 07 - 08:51 AM A nice emigration song is the Stewart Ross version of 'Dark Island' - a clip of Calum Kennedy's 1967 recording using my father's lyrics with a bit of video can currently be found on UK's 'You Tube'. He sang one wrong word 'In the years long ago', should have been 'In the years long gone by'... There are better folk arrangements of this lyrical version song - and the English studio orchestration by PYE records is a bit twee by today's standards. Amazingly, this song was supposed to be banned for copyright reasons - tell that to the BBC, You Tube and all the record companies who have been re-issuing it! |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Mariner Date: 11 Oct 07 - 03:14 AM As mentioned above PATAGONIA with ,I think melody by Frank Hennessy who also wrote anothwr fine song of emmgration, Tiger Bay."They came a long long way from Tiger Bay across the wild ,wild sea to be free free free".Check it out ,I'M abroad at the moment and hav´nt got the cd to hand and the title escapes me right now.Ithink it´s the good Austrian beer that dims the mind! |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: MARINER Date: 11 Oct 07 - 04:14 AM Oops!,on the same cd is another song of emmgration "The country I´m leaving behind " sung by Hennessy´s partner in crime Dave Burns.Sorry for forgetting that, damned Austrian beer! |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Melissa Date: 11 Oct 07 - 06:42 AM Great American Melting Pot from SchoolHouse rock, maybe? |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,HughM Date: 11 Oct 07 - 08:06 AM Lament of the Irish Immigrant, on the CD "The Rankin Family". An t-Eilean Muileach, English version, on one of Jim Reid's Cds, either Freewheeling Now or I Saw The Wild Geese Flee, not sure. The Wild Geese, from the latter CD, about a Scot in England asking the north wind for news of home. O Teannaibh Dluth is Togaibh Fonn, English version, on the CD The Standing Wave by Wendy Stuart (Stewart?) That's about being expelled from the Isle of Mull and sent to Cape Breton. Gaelic version on the Gaelic Women CD Ar Ca\nan 's Ar Ceo\l. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Richard Mellish Date: 11 Oct 07 - 07:23 PM A bit back in this thread Chicken Charlie said > don't forget that "Wild Colonial Boy" is about a born Irishman who goes Down Under < That depends on the version of the song. In some versions he qualifies better for the title "Wild Colonial Boy", having been "born in the state of Victoria, not so far from Castlemaine". Apropos the original query: one song that I sing and have never heard anyone else in England do is The Sound of the Windlasses, an extremely rose-tinted account of an Englishman making his fortune digging gold at Ballarat, coming home, acquiring a "charming little wife" but deciding that he prefers the digger's life and taking her back to Oz. Richard |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Big Al Whittle Date: 12 Oct 07 - 02:29 PM one that a lot of Irish singers do and I like, is Shores of Amerikay. its a cheerful tune, but the words are sad, which I suppose sums up the bravery of the old emigrants. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Gent Date: 12 Oct 07 - 02:51 PM Here is another song on emigration from the point of view of those who were left behind... Gent K i l l k e l l y 1 Killkelly, Ireland, eighteen and sixty, my dear and loving son John, your good friend the schoolmaster Pat McNamara is so good to write these words down. Your brothers have all gone to find work in England The house is so empty and sad. The crop of potatoes is sorely infected, a third to a half of them bad. And your sister Bridget and Patrick O'Donnell are going to be married in June. Your mother says not to work on the railroad and be sure to come on home soon. 2 Killkelly, Ireland, eighteen and seventy, my dear and loving son John, hello to your missus and to your four children, may they grow healthy and strong. Michael has got in a wee bit of trouble, I suppose that he never will learn, because of the dampness there's no turf to speak of and now we have nothing to burn. And Bridget is happy you named the child for her although she's got six of her own. You say you found work but you don't say what kind or when you''ll be coming home. 3 Killkelly, Ireland, eighteen and eighty, dear MIchael and John my sons, I'm sorry to give you the very sad news that your dear old mother has gone. We buried her down at the church in Killkelly your brothers and Bridget were there. You don't have to worry, she died very quickly remember her in your prayers. And it's so good to hear that Michael's returning with money, he's sure to buy land For the crop has been poor and the people are selling at any price that they can 4 Killkelly, Ireland, eighteen and ninety, my dear and loving son John, I suppose that I must be close to eighty, It's thirty years since you have gone. Because of all of the money you sent me I'm still living out of my own Michael has built himself a fine house and Bridget's daughters have grown. And thank you for sending your family a picture of the lovely young women and men. You say that you might even come for a visit; what joy to see you again. 5 Killkelly, Ireland, eighteen and ninety-two, my dear brother John, I' m sorry I didn't write sooner to tell you but father passed on. He was living with Bridget, she says he was cheerfull and healthy right down to the end. Oh, you should have seen him playing with the grandchildren of Pat McNamara your friend. And we buried him alongside of the mother down at the Killkelly church yard. He was strong and a fine steel man considering his life was so hard. And it's funny that he kept talking about you, He called for you at the end Oh, why don't you think about coming to visit? We'd all love to see you again.^^^ |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: mg Date: 13 Oct 07 - 12:23 AM I am interested in the Mary Clare Malloy one. I had never heard of "Irish picture brides" before but there is talk in my family that I just heard that my great great grandmother might have been one. She is from Tralee.her father's name was Cornelius Lyons (her name was Maggie)..I do wonder if she was related to the famous harper. Anyway, can anyone say more...this would have been during or right after the famine..she ended up in Iowa but I think they married around 1855 in another state..Illinois? Wisconsin? How could they have afforded pictures? mg |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Don Crackel Date: 06 Mar 08 - 12:44 AM Surprised to come across A Miner's Dream of Home. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Rowan Date: 06 Mar 08 - 01:25 AM For some reason I've always thought of Lonesome roving wolves as an emigration song. I think I first heard it sung by Helen Schneyer and it deals with the Mormon migration across (what is now) the US. And Richard Mellish's The Sound of the Windlasses might be the song more correctly known as "Look out below!" by Charles Thatcher. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: Rowan Date: 06 Mar 08 - 01:34 AM "Look out below!" Although this version, as posted on Mudcat, mentions the Lachlan as the digger's location (it was collected from the singing of Sally Sloane in NSW), it is usually sung in Victoria with Ballarat as the location, as it was written by Charles Thatcher, who was a great writer of songs on the Victorian goldfields. The relevant verse would thus be; And when he came to Ballarat His heart was in a glow To hear the sound of the windlasses And the cry 'Look out below' Subject: Look Out Below From: GUEST,radriano - PM Date: 14 Apr 00 - 11:15 AM Here's a great little song about the Australian gold rush days: Look Out Below A young man left his native town Through trade being slack at home To seek his fortune in this land He crossed the briny foam And when he came to the Lachlan His heart was in a glow To hear the sound of the windlasses And the cry 'Look out below' Wherever he turned his wandering eyes Strange sights he did behold Of full and plenty in the land And the magic power of gold He says now I am young and strong And a digging I will go For I like the sound of windlasses And the cry 'Look out below' So now he's settled down again With a charming little wife He says there's nothing can compare To a jolly digger's life Ask him if he'll go home again And he'll quickly answer no For he likes the sound of windlasses And the cry 'Look out below' ABC notation: X:1 T:Look Out Below M:4/4 L:1/8 S:Charles Thatcher R:Song Z:Richard Adrianowicz K:F C2 | F3E F2G2 | F3F C2A2 | AAF2 A2B2 | c6A2 | B3A G2(FE) | F3F C2(FE) | D2B,2 C2E2 | F6 || One of Charles Thatcher's songs from the goldrush days of the 1850's. Charles Thatcher was an English music hall entertainer during the gold rush period in Victoria. This version was given to John Meredith by Ida Fielding (a friend of Sally Sloane) of Dripstone NSW who got it from her father. The tune is from Sally Sloane and is also used for the ballad 'Peter Clarke'. Sally Sloane was a great old singer who was recorded in the 1950's and 1960's by folklorists searching for Australian songs. The Lachlan is a river in Australia. If anyone needs a GIF for the music contact me at radriano@consrv.ca.gov and I'll send one off to you. The melody is also the same tune as the song Peter Clarke, which is in the Mudcat database. radriano |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST,Volgadon Date: 06 Mar 08 - 05:43 AM The other day I posted lyrics and links to a Ukrainian song, Ridna Maty Moya, an immigrant singing about his mother. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: topical tom Date: 06 Mar 08 - 08:23 AM "The Great American Dream "by David Massengill. |
Subject: RE: songs on emigration From: GUEST Date: 28 Mar 08 - 07:07 PM "Tiger Bay" is a great song--very poignant. Another great band (my favourite) is Runrig, a folk-rock band from the Hebrides of Scotland...some of their songs are emigration-centred, like Dance Called America and (I believe) Canada. Canada especially is amazing--check it out if you get a chance. It's on their album Amazing Things. |
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