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Lonesome EJ 17 May 00 - 03:51 PM
TerriM 17 May 00 - 03:56 PM
MMario 17 May 00 - 03:59 PM
GUEST,Okiemockbird 17 May 00 - 04:12 PM
SeanM 17 May 00 - 04:22 PM
Lonesome EJ 17 May 00 - 04:24 PM
MK 17 May 00 - 04:25 PM
MMario 17 May 00 - 04:29 PM
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Lonesome EJ 17 May 00 - 04:35 PM
Lonesome EJ 17 May 00 - 04:38 PM
MMario 17 May 00 - 04:39 PM
Peter T. 17 May 00 - 04:41 PM
Lonesome EJ 17 May 00 - 04:44 PM
Sorcha 17 May 00 - 04:54 PM
SeanM 17 May 00 - 05:00 PM
Lonesome EJ 17 May 00 - 05:04 PM
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GUEST,kat/katlaughing 17 May 00 - 05:59 PM
Peter T. 17 May 00 - 06:08 PM
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Amos 17 May 00 - 08:32 PM
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Joe Offer 18 May 00 - 03:58 AM
Lonesome EJ 26 May 00 - 02:47 AM
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Subject: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 17 May 00 - 03:51 PM

Joe Offer, Keeper of the FAQ, is intrigued by the idea of adding a link to a select group of Mudcat Classic Threads, a list which would probably number 10 or less, but would serve as an introduction to the wide range of discussion on the Forum. Threads like Spancil Hill, the Vietnam Thread, and even the Tiple and Hoky Poky Threads might have a place. These threads could be maintained in their original forms, without addition or modification by new posters. Any feelings on this idea? Any nominations?

LEJ


This is the master list, including old links removed from the FAQ. -Lonesome EJ-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: TerriM
Date: 17 May 00 - 03:56 PM

Haven't been around long enough to nominate but I think it's a really good idea.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: MMario
Date: 17 May 00 - 03:59 PM

The thread re: "the fox" song from just before the getaway last fall would be a good one. That came up with a lot of variations, etc. Good discussion thread.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: GUEST,Okiemockbird
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:12 PM

I vaguely recall a hilarious thread about "how to write a folk song", from 1997-1998 or thereabouts, but I can't locate it. If it exists and is anything like I remember, I nominate it to be considered for "classic" status.

T.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: SeanM
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:22 PM

I do admit that I'm unclear as to what format this is taking... Will it be the threads themselves permafrosted? Or would it be a thread that contained links to the top threads, which would then just be left in the normal forum?

M


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:24 PM

Where possible, when suggesting a classic thread, please give a clickable link, such as Spancil Hill, or the thread address.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: MK
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:25 PM

Well many have told me, they thought the BRAZILIAN vs. INDIAN ROSEWOOD thread was a classic.

Your call though.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: MMario
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:29 PM

The fox went out on a chilly night


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: sophocleese
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:29 PM

Lonesome EJ I would respectfully like to submit that any thread to which I deigned to post would certainly count as a classic and must be included.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: sophocleese
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:30 PM

Otherwise I'm leaving and won't post again, so there!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: GUEST,Okiemockbird
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:32 PM

Found it: How to Create a Folksong

T.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:35 PM

"I do admit that I'm unclear as to what format this is taking... Will it be the threads themselves permafrosted? Or would it be a thread that contained links to the top threads, which would then just be left in the normal forum?" ....Sean M

Sean, I think the basic idea is to create a Permafrosted FAQ section with click links to the 10 classic threads. The classic threads could be in turn permafrosted to prevent additional postings, or they could be left as functioning threads. Max has expressed a desire to hold Permathreads to a minimum, so 10 classic permathreads may not be an option.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:38 PM

Soph, I would have to agree with you about the high quality of your postings. The final decision, if the idea goes forward, should probably be left to Max. Or we could vote.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: MMario
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:39 PM

Now what I thought he meant was a "Classic Threads" permafrosted, that thread would then have linkages to the "classics" - with lil' Leej editor of the permafrosted thread, which of course is where 'catters would post argueing that THEIR favorites should be included in the list... *grin*


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Peter T.
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:41 PM

Although I agree with the nominations above, and could think of lots more, I think that they would be better incorporated in the NewComers Guide. While the Permathread is a nice idea, I think that we should have only one of them. The top of the posting space for threads is very valuable real estate -- I would be very reluctant to add any more -- I don't want to have to look at them every time I check in -- having the FAQ is good, but no more. I think the FAQ should be restructured so it is short and has all the possible additional threads clickable from it. One is enough.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:44 PM

Peter, if the Classics were permafrosted, I don't think they would also have to be placed at the top of the forum.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 May 00 - 04:54 PM

I garuntee ya, 'spaw is gonna want permafrosted breasts! (Definitely the VietNam Thread)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: SeanM
Date: 17 May 00 - 05:00 PM

Thanks, LEJ! It's all so clear now...

My only other input is that I'm personally not comfortable with the idea of "locking" the thread against further commentary. You never know, someone may have something good to add. And the rest of the chaff can always be edited out occasionally.

M


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 17 May 00 - 05:04 PM

Sean, I understand how you feel. Maybe we could just reserve the right to delete flames or other disruptive posts from the classic threads.

here is the clicker for Vietnam Songs


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: SeanM
Date: 17 May 00 - 05:08 PM

It's been done rarely before, when Joe's taken out something that had no purpose except to cause harm. Maybe just criteria the level to "on topic", and transfer/delete anything else inappropriate, from the threads in question?

Could be a good thing, in any case.

M


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: GUEST,kat/katlaughing
Date: 17 May 00 - 05:59 PM

Here's the list I've sent out to a few Mudcatters who've asked about memorable threads before. I'll try to get the links in later when I have more time. I am not particularly saying they should all be permafrosted, but they are favs and wonderful to read regardless. Thanks for starting this one, LeeJ, should be interesting.

The Village of Mudcat
How ethinically diverse are we?
UK Altered Priorities Ahead?
To those who know another language, other than English
DEFINITELY THIS ONE, as mentioned before: Hokey Pokey & the Druids
ANOTHER KEEPER! Music Therapy
Xenophobia
AND ANOTEHR DEFINITE AS MENTIONED:Songs about the Vietnam War
Man from the RUC
Guns, to my friends here at the Mudcat
Hesitatingly, GUNS again
Spancill Hill
St. Paddy's Day greeting
St. Patrick's Day favourites
What are Tim Tams?
Tipple Information anyone?
Folk songs for social change
haikus
hamish imlach
If Mudcatters ruled the world
Lyrics ADD seeds of More - song for Kosovo
What did Mudcatters learn in school
Can we lighten up a little?
Are men more musical?
Mingulay
Obejectionable material - the sequel
Influences and reason for being
Why we sing
What do Mudcatters do

For some reason I don't see the Columbine thread from last year, but it is certainly memorable. Thanks,

kat


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Peter T.
Date: 17 May 00 - 06:08 PM

Well, I don't understand where else they could be permafrosted -- further down the list somewhere? Then they would move, and wouldn't be permafrosted.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 May 00 - 06:15 PM

Sorry, I forgot to reset my cookie.

Peter, I think there could be another area with a Quick Link, maybe which would be a repository for them? But, I agree, I wouldn't want them to be frozen to new postings AND, I wouldn't want them to be moved from the Forum, so not sure what the answer would be there.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Mbo
Date: 17 May 00 - 06:20 PM

Hmmm...all those threads were before my time. I can't say I would have posted to them even if I was around. All of them are out of my league...

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: GUEST,TTCM
Date: 17 May 00 - 06:59 PM

Definitely the "Compassion vs. Honesty" thread. We definitely consider that a classic, along with any previous messages posted, assailing the poster of the preceding message.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Alice
Date: 17 May 00 - 08:14 PM

Leej, I already started this long ago. It is under links called "Memorable Mudcat Threads". Go to the links and choose if from the drop down menu. Let me know the few choice that you want on there that are not already included. No reason to duplicate this.

Alice Flynn


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 May 00 - 08:32 PM

I think there has never been the match for the fiction writing that started in Mbo's Soda Shop thread, but I don't remember its title -- the whole fantasy of Dead Man's curve and the US1 hoodlums was amazing.

Second among the most peerless writing samples on the 'Cat is the fictional thread that ended up with Robert Johnson picking up the flatfoot at "the crossroads". Again I have lost the name. But I know LEJ was a main voice.

.

Third, again on powerful fictional writing, our recent Tavern Steamboat was one of the most amazing pieces of composite fiction I have ever seen. The current Enterprise thread might turn out to be a close competitior, because Peter T has done some amazing characterization and dialogue writing in it.

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Mbo
Date: 17 May 00 - 08:43 PM

Thanks you kindly, Amos. It was The Mudcat Juke Joint!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: The Shambles
Date: 18 May 00 - 03:33 AM

There are diverse tastes, on The Mudcat and that is it's strength. There will be great difficulty in getting any agreement as to what constitutes, say ten of the best threads.

With the new search they are all only a click away and it is great fun and very imformative just to browse through them. New folk may be discouraged from doing this if they think that the best ten threads are already displayed for them?

I think we can all make suggestions as to our favourites but if a number are to be chosen to permanently represent the forum, then I feel it is only fair that the choice of those should be Max's.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 May 00 - 03:58 AM

Well, tentatively, "Mudcat Classic Threads" will be a list here (click) (the second message) in the Mudcat FAQ, prepared by LEJ and edited by me - taken from suggestions submitted by the rest of you in this thread and others. Some threads may stay on the list for a long time, and some won't - that's all up to LEJ.
Note also that Alice Flynn has provided links to Memorable Mudcat Threads on our Links Page(click). The links Alice has been maintaining may tend to be a bit more permanent in nature. We're trying to keep the FAQ an ever-changing thing, and LEJ's "Classic" list will be one of the ever-changing features.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 26 May 00 - 02:47 AM

OK, the Classic Threads List is up on the FAQ. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, and who sent me personal messages and suggestions, and particularly Amos who suggested the format. These threads should not be looked on as a "best of" Mudcat list (although some are really good!), but as a sampling for Newcomers of the kinds of topics we talk about here, and an explanation of the nature of some of the ongoing threads and obscure references that are made. It can also be a repository for some of our favorite moments.

Although I asked for suggestions and used many, I realize that the list represents my final choices, and so are not entirely objective. There are hundreds of great threads that I didn't sight, and may not even be aware of. And so, as Joe has already mentioned, except for the obvious exception of The First Thread, the Classic Threads will change as often as you like. Maybe folks would like to submit their own Classic Threads list monthly? I would certainly like to see choices from people like Shambles, Peter T, Nightowl, Kat and others who have been around here longer than I.

Thanks again

LEJ


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 26 May 00 - 08:21 AM

O well, I only read one of the classic threads but at least that one (the rosewood thread) was one I very much enjoyed reading. Our tastes will vary but to me, that is Mudcat at its best!

Jon


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Aug 00 - 05:01 PM

Hey, LEJ, is it time to ask people for more suggestions?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 02 Aug 00 - 09:02 PM

Any volunteers, or do Joe and I have to come up with some new ones?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 02 Aug 00 - 10:21 PM

How about

Fields of Athenrye
Oh No, not the field of Athenry
Fields of Athenry
Hills of Athenrye?


Tom Dooley, diff lyricsKingston Trio, Tom Dooley
Tom Dooley
song Tom Dooley
HELP! Version of Water is Wide
water is wide
Waly, Waly
Water is Wide - Waly, Waly - River is Wide - etc
Anyone know lyrics to "Water is Wide"
Need lyrics to "Water is Wide"
Water is Wide - Alternate Lyrics
Shenandoah
Shenandoah
O Shenandoah


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Aug 00 - 11:42 PM

Just the titles bring a smile, George!

LeeJ, I did refresh the M'Catterbury Tales one, today, in the hopes it would grow. I think it was pretty neat even though there weren't too many postings.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 02:58 AM

Software for Harmony has the makings of a classic thread, I think.
-Joe-

Hey, Leej, when ya gonna add to the list?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Noreen
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 03:46 PM

I nominate snows they melt... -author? as a classic, involving co-operation from many sources in tracking down the origins of a lovely song. My sort of thread!

Noreen


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 03:58 PM

I think PeterT's and kat's TFTD threads would be an interesting collection if they were condensed into one thread. Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Sep 00 - 03:25 PM

Hi, Dave- if you put thought in the filter box and set the age for three years, you'll pull up all of the "Thought for the Day" threads.
LEJ sent me a new list of classic threads, which I will add to the FAQ in a few minutes. I'm going to delete his old list from the FAQ, but I'll try to maintain a master list at the top of this thread.
Thanks, LEJ.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 01 - 08:08 PM

Now that we have some historical perspective I really want the Mudcat Enterprise thread, begun on Earth by no less a Catter than MMario, added to the great Literature of the Cat series. It's right up there with At the CrossRoads, the JukeJoint, and the good riverboat Albert Hansell.

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Azizi
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 10:28 AM

I found this thread in the Mudcat Newcomers' FAQ page.

This statement from Joe Offer was also on that page:
"Our music discussion threads build up a fascinating body of knowledge, but that information is much more valuable if it's easy to find."

I would expand that statement to include examples from the BS threads.

I think that we should continue to this list so that we can more easily find threads that are memorable because of their information, insightfulness, wit, creativity, emotional impact, and/or other criteria.

Here's a partial listing of threads that I consider to be Mudcat Classics:

Naughty Children's Greatest Hits II

What if there was no Mudcat

One More Time For Spaw, Please

Children's Street Songs

For Real. I Quit

Black Britons and Folk Music

Feelin The Blues

****

Which Mudcat threads do you consider memorable?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Azizi
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 10:37 AM

I meant to write "I think that we should continue to add to this list.."


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Spiffy Classic Threads
From: Severn
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 03:49 PM

Memorable Mudcat Threads?

How 'bout Geoff The Duck's outfit at Getaway?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Classic Threads
From: Janie
Date: 03 Feb 06 - 04:05 PM

Now those were indeed memorable threads! Almost as entertaining as his music!

Janie


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