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War Strategy &Tactics: Part Two

CarolC 01 Oct 01 - 09:43 AM
Amos 01 Oct 01 - 09:36 AM
CarolC 30 Sep 01 - 08:13 PM
Gareth 30 Sep 01 - 07:18 PM
Little Hawk 30 Sep 01 - 06:39 PM
GUEST, A Member, being Anon. 30 Sep 01 - 01:15 PM
GUEST 30 Sep 01 - 10:02 AM
kendall 29 Sep 01 - 09:55 PM
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Subject: RE: War Strategy&Tactics: Part Two
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Oct 01 - 09:43 AM

I'm encouraged that you think so, Amos. But the bit I was quoting referred to human beings in general. Not any particular group of human beings.


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Subject: RE: War Strategy&Tactics: Part Two
From: Amos
Date: 01 Oct 01 - 09:36 AM

I think we can alter their play. Consider the remarkable changes in the "play" being pursued by Japan and by Germany.

In both case the biggest resource at work was not the U.S. military, although that was essential to break the force-lock holding the drama in place. It was the underlying human decency of those who lived in these places and who had been swept up by a distorted and maddened minority.

A


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Subject: RE: War Strategy&Tactics: Part Two
From: CarolC
Date: 30 Sep 01 - 08:13 PM

Hey, LH. I keep remembering something I read a while back. Someone said, "You cannot alter their play, no matter how much you love them". But it's still feels good to hear about new possibilities.


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Subject: RE: War Strategy&Tactics: Part Two
From: Gareth
Date: 30 Sep 01 - 07:18 PM

As Ive said before. A big enough "reward" for Ben Ladin's head (body optional) should do the trick.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: War Strategy&Tactics: Part Two
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Sep 01 - 06:39 PM

The generalised notion of a "war on evil" in the world is a fascinating concept...there is no doubt a target on every block and in every hamlet of every country on the planet.

The most efficient way of waging such a war, however, would be to return each missile, bomb, and bullet fired directly onto the heads of those who gave the firing order (at the highest level, and thence on down to the fool with his finger on the trigger)...instant karma.

It would only take a few days or possibly a few weeks of this to eliminate most of the really bloodthirsty and vengeful people on the planet, and then the rest of us could get back to normal, peaceful life and start cooperating to each other's mutual benefit. In fact, under such a system, you could arm violent people to the teeth, and they would handily destroy themselves toot sweet!

Alas, we have not the means to put such a program into effect, short of an enormous all-encompassing act of God, and God (being the ultimate democrat...or, if you prefer...being non-existant) prefers to let us use our own free will and figure these things out in our own good time. For what is free will if not allowed to remain free?

Thus is spiritual evolution served in its slow and quiet fashion.

Not nearly fast enough for people as impatient as most of us are...

I'd discuss tactics vis-a-vis subduing Afghanistan, but I'm not into rearranging deck chairs one more time on the Titanic at this point.

- LH


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Subject: RE: War Strategy&Tactics: Part Two
From: GUEST, A Member, being Anon.
Date: 30 Sep 01 - 01:15 PM

'GUEST'....(*LOL*, as if anyone would actually invite someone like you...) I've said most of my serious points about you on the other threads youve trolled, so all that remains for me tosay here is...

WHY???

..surely you would get more of your juvenile fun by going in a 'real-time' chatroom, where you can actually see people reacting to your shit straight away?

Alternatively, go back on medication, & remove the desire to waste your own time doing this?


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Subject: RE: War Strategy&Tactics: Part Two
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Sep 01 - 10:02 AM

I see we have more of the same from the Mudcat Theoretical & Rhetorical Politician Wannabees. How (in)apprpropriate. Please run for office and save the world and keep your opinions on a political forum.


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Subject: RE: War Strategy&Tactics: Part Two
From: kendall
Date: 29 Sep 01 - 09:55 PM

If this keeps up those bastards are going to screw us out of a reason to blast them! (sarcasm intended)


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Subject: RE: War Strategy&Tactics: Part Two
From: Amos
Date: 29 Sep 01 - 09:53 PM

Part one of this thread can be found over here.

Regards,

A.


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Subject: War Strategy&Tactics: Part Two
From: Amos
Date: 29 Sep 01 - 09:52 PM

This is a continuation of the 122-post thread re US War Strategy, "key to"...

There is evidence that the core of Afghanistanian radical fanatacism is losing its political control at the edges.

From the UK press:

Survivors who made it out of Taliban-controlled areas last week gave the first eyewitness details of how the country's rulers are turning on their own people in an attempt to terrify them into fighting and not supplying any succour or support to America, the enemy.

But the Taliban regime was looking increasingly fragile yesterday as large numbers of Afghans refused to obey their orders and, in some instances, came close to outright revolt.

In at least one province the Taliban authorities were forced to temporarily withdraw after local people challenged their rule. In Khost, a strategic city on the eastern border of Afghanistan and critical to any defence of the country, the Taliban governor was forced to leave after local tribesmen refused his orders to join defence militias.

Elsewhere along the Pakistani frontier, local people in Paktia and Paktika provinces have told the Taliban that unless the Arab fighters associated with Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda group are withdrawn from their towns and villages they will refuse to obey any of the government's orders. About 50 Arab families have been evicted from their longstanding bases around the eastern city of Sorobi, according to refugees coming from Afghanistan.

'That's as close as you can get to an outright revolt without risking execution,' said one senior opposition leader in Peshawar last week. There have been similar scenes in Ghazni province - far closer to Kabul, the capital, and previously a Taliban stronghold.

The Taliban have been forced to set up roadblocks to prevent Afghans fleeing major cities - in direct contravention of their orders. According to refugees, hundreds of people were yesterday being stopped at one checkpoint set up near Pul-e-Sharqi prison, a grim complex built by east Europeans on the road east of Kabul. Many of those fleeing are trying to escape the press gangs to which the hardline Islamic militia have resorted to fill the ranks of their army.

Mullah Mohamed Omar, the reclusive one-eyed cleric who is the spiritual leader of the Taliban, was so concerned by the growing rebellion that he last week issued an unprecedented threat to any Afghans who disobey the Taliban's orders: they would be treated in the same way that collaborators with the Russians were treated during the Afghan war of resistance in the Eighties when suspects were tortured and staked out in the sunshine with their eyelids sliced off, or castrated and hung from trees.

That's inspire them to see the truth, all right!! Hang 'em until they have an epiphany!!

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Regards,

A


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