BS: Anti-social behavior

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 05:39 PM

Well, then you owe Ron, Martin. :-) Think of all the enjoyment he has provided for you. What do you plan to do in return?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Once Famous
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 05:23 PM

[bleep - for antisocial behavior]Ron davies, you are a big man in your own mind because you sign your name to your posts.

All of the Guests here know that.

Tell me, do you take pills for your arrogance? They just don't make them strong enough, do they?

What a joke you are and always have been here. a perfect target for me on oh so many occasions!

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 02:00 PM

Isn't not showing respect for a president anti-social behavior?

Seems to me that the folks who complain the loudest about not showing respect for Dubya are the ones who showed no respect at all for Clinton.

Showing disrespect for the Prez when he's not your guy isn't just not anti-social, it's the national pastime.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 08:28 AM

I'm with Flamenco Ted. If Leadfinger's 100th post is removed, then MINE will be number 100! Yippeee!

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 06:46 AM

I want Leadfingers 100th post to this thread removed! It is totally irresponsible to post like that on a thread such as this!

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 06:13 AM

Bill D.........We've known each other here for over six years and I don't know why I should be surprised that I could have written your last post almost verbatim (I'd not thought of the Queen ref).

BTW, in one of Carlin's recent routines he talks about now praying to Joe Pesci with about the same results as he had before.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Ron Davies
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 06:08 AM

As far as respect for a president goes, this "president" has yet to earn it. It begins to look doubtful that he will. The only thing he has proven so far is that, rather than being the gibbering idiot portrayed often on Mudcat, he is in fact a brilliant demogogue, in the grand tradition of one in Germany in the 20's and 30's--perhaps you've heard of him, "Martin"?--along the lines of "The US is crawling with terrorists and homosexuals--and be sure to watch out for those homosexual terrorists".

Perhaps closer to home, a role model could have been Father Coughlin--not Huey Long--Huey actually had some good ideas, and was a real complex character.

Sorry for the thread creep.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 04:31 AM

Ron Davies,

for info: "iconoclast" is of course a Greek word, meaning literally "icon breaker", as the second part of the word means "to break" in ancient/Byzantine Greek. In contemporary Greek however, it means "to break wind". So in contemporary language, an iconoclast is someone who farts at icons.

Apt, I thought 8-)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Stu
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 04:08 AM

Can I be a leaf-cutter ant please?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: dianavan
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 01:17 AM

Gee Martin, the following seems to be a pretty good description of your most honored and respected leader, GWB. He's not worthy of anyone's respect and it worries me that you and others give this bully so much power.


The DSM-IV Diagnostic Criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder include:

A. A pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since the age of 15 years as indicated by at least three of:

1. failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviours as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
2. deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
3. impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
4. irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
5. reckless disregard for the safety of self or others;
6. consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behaviour or honour financial obligations;
7. lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalising having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.

B. The individual is at least 18 years of age.

C. There is evidence of Conduct Disorder with onset before age 15 years.

D. The occurrence of antisocial behaviour is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Ron Davies
Date: 01 Apr 05 - 12:00 AM

Kendall hit it dead on (12:28 PM) on this thread.



It would be truly fascinating to see just how many of his wonderful contributions the courageous iconoclast (look it up, "Martin")---( in his own mind)-- behind "Martin Gibson" would make if he had to sign his own name to them. Who knows, we might be lucky--he'd stop the vile postings---- (see Carol C's post of 30 Mar 2005 9:45 PM, a great summary of his MO)---and content himself with the disgusting ones. That would be progress.

Anonymity can be, as it is for some, a shelter from a possibly cruel and even dangerous world. Or it can be a screen to hide behind and hurl vicious and revolting remarks at passersby, secure in the knowledge--until the advent yesterday of the "bleep regime" --that the poster will never have to take any responsibility for anything he says. No question where "Martin" fits in here.

One thing however-- there is no doubt that "Martin" is synonomous with "common snese" (sic)---(see his own comments on Proud Citizen thread).

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 07:40 PM

Dang! You beat me to the draw, Lead..

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 07:39 PM

Number 100

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Leadfingers
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 07:36 PM

Is It anti - social to post the Hundredth addition to a thread ??

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 07:06 PM

ya' know...I agree with all that, LH...and since I DON'T know, I choose not to speculate and toss prayers and pleas for 'blessings' about as if I could expect that my little wishes would affect it all.

I don't know what's out there-
I don't know if anything knows I'm down here-
I don't know how 'it' could affect me if either of 'us' knew about each other-
I see no obvious pattern to events that would enlighten me so I could know---
I see all those who DO claim to know taking widely divergent positions and arguing with each other....and unlike the Red Queen, I can't bring myself to believe six impossible (or contradictory) things before breakfast.

There used to be a political party in the US called "The Know-Nothings". Maybe we need it back   ;>))

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: GUEST,Observer
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 06:59 PM

Said one fire ant to the other fire ant after they both bit Martin Gibson in the balls, "Bleaugh!! Now there is a bitter man!"

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 05:35 PM

I guess the only way to know for SURE would be to become God, Bill.

How does a fish know what the ocean is thinking about? Does the ocean worry about the fish? Does the ocean get mad if the fish doesn't worship it or believe in it? Does the sky get mad at the little gray cloud that decided to rain?

Naw....only people get mad at the little gray cloud, because they have a frikkin' agenda, and not much patience either. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:45 PM

I can be very funny, if I choose to be...

:-P

Heh

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Wesley S
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:43 PM

Zzzzzz.......

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:43 PM

See now, Clinton, you are capable of being funny. But you are, after all, Canadian, so you have an advantage there.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Once Famous
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:42 PM

Fire ants are known to sit at the table with you in trailer parks.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:37 PM

People at mudcat aren't fire ants... I'd be more concerned about the viciousness of gummy-worms...

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:33 PM

You underestimate fire ants, Martin.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Once Famous
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:25 PM

As I thought, Wesley.

deaf, dumb, and blind. ever think of changing your name to Tommy?

Your response is somewhat entertaining.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Wesley S
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:21 PM

Zzzzzzzzz.........

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Once Famous
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:21 PM

Carol C.

simple insect repeelant works for that.


Wesley S., that's the name of the old Simon and Garfunkel song I was trying to remember.

See, you are capable of something when you wake up and smell the coffee.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:20 PM

how will we know if He does, Little Hawk? How do we know he isn't just amused by it all? ;>)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 04:15 PM

Well, LH, if one is going to be poking a stick into anthills, one shouldn't be surprised if, from time to time, one discovers hundreds of angry fire ants up one's pants, embedding their stingers into ones tender bits. (Occupational hazards and all that... )

:-0

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 03:51 PM

Being like a child once in a while is good for the health, I think.

Bill, you are mistaken. God can handle all that without even blinking an "eye". :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Wesley S
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 03:46 PM

... The Sounds of Silence.....

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Once Famous
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 03:44 PM

Anthills are for children.

Web forums are for adults who get a kick out being like a child once in a while.

Let's get ready to rummmmmmble!

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 03:42 PM

I think you're overworking the Lord on that one, Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 03:40 PM

For sure, eh? :-) Rock on, dudes. There is nothing a professional chain-puller likes better than a damned good reaction every time he pulls the chain, and that requires someone willing to provide it.

Kind of like professional wrestling. You have your obligatory "bad guys" and they are there simply to get the audience all riled up and keep the show going. Andy Kaufman really got into making the most of that for a while. It's exactly like poking a stick into an anthill.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 03:22 PM

Love is all he said!...Love is all!
May the Lord Bless each one of you in your anger, your annoyance, your lack of understanding........
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Once Famous
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 03:17 PM

And Clinton, you are one of the biggest ants!

Good call!

It has been quite a riot at times, especially the Guests who are obviously regulars getting so bent out of shape.

The guest though who above said "That's what makes every single member posting here (and the forum moderators who tolerate Martin) such hypocrites. You claim to be holier than thou "nice" people, yet you play these passive aggressive games.

Martin Gibson isn't the only member who needs to grow up."


This guest is not related to me nor have I paid him or her off to say such truth. Some of you who think they are such hot shit, just ain't and I have been enjoying tell you so. That group is just not that nice and I know that they think they are the Mudcat elite. But, as I have been saying, you sure can stink up a room pretty bad, especially a church or a synagogue.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 02:48 PM

"You get your back up at the slightest indication that somebody doesn't agree with your point of view"

Then you misunderstand MG... He's here, like a 4 year old, to poke the ant-hill that is Mudcat, to watch the inhabitants scramble around, tripping over each other to tell him what a horrible person he is...

He pokes this place, because you people are so easily riled, and so entertaining in your stupidity when you are riled...

As I said above, he ain't no thing... Unless you LET him be a thing...

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Swave N. Deboner
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 02:33 PM

Martin, c'mon man! Why are you so fuckin' hostile? You get your back up at the slightest indication that somebody doesn't agree with your point of view. Most of us here all agree that you, and every other damn person with a mind that's capable of forming a viewpoint, are entitled to it. But you, who supposedly upholds that same principle, damn sure have a shitty way of showing it. Do you agree with Dubya, going around the country, spouting off about his Social Security plan, and attempting to bring pressure to bear by implying that anyone (in Congress) who doesn't support his plan will face political consequences? He may as well be saying, "You better agree with me, or else." I damn sure don't respect that. I suppose you think that the Democratic members of Congress are all anti-social, unless they cow-tow to that sawed off prick. If you are anything in real life like you present yourself to be in this forum, then you certainly are anti-social, but that's just my opinion.

SND

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Greg F.
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 02:12 PM

Don't lets give him too much credit, Dave- he's still an obnoxious a$$hole.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 01:47 PM

Oh, Clinton. Nice summary! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 01:26 PM

Actually, I have to give our Martin some credit here. This thread itself is probably the most socially responsible thing I've see him do. There is some thought content here. I happpen to think he's wrong in many of his points, but at least the approach is sort of responsible.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 12:50 PM

"It was meant as nothing more than an opinion."
So, it's useless....

"you are operating on a double standard"
So what....

Isn't defending Marxism in america Anti-social behavior? No

Isn't ridiculing Jews anti-social behavior? Who cares...

Isn't ridiculing religion anti-social behavior? No!

Isn't sponging off the government anti-social behavior? What else is it there for?

Isn't spreading AIDS through homosexual contact anti-social behavior? Leave your sex life outa this...

Isn't ridiculing people with faith anti-social behavior? No

Isn't censorship itself anti-social behavior? No

Isn't not showing respect for a president anti-social behavior? F#ck NO!

Isn't using drugs and boasting about it anti-social behavior? Nope...

Isn't getting drunk and boasting about it anti-social behavior? Nope...

Isn't being a lying Mudcat Clone anti-social behavior? Who cares...

1. Is fomenting discord and anger within or amongst a group, antisocial? Nope... f#ck 'em

2. Is using the fowlest insults imaginable, antisocial? Not as bad as you rspelling...

3. Is making up a persona and hiding behind it in order to be verbally abusive, antisocial? Is declaring that you do not see yourself as a participant in an online community which you post in a dozen times a day, antisocial? What else is the internet for???

4. Is lying repeatedly about who you really are, antisocial? Catch me if you can...

5. Is withholding public kindness or empathy for the sad, antisocial? Again, f#ck 'em... the sad... cry me a fecking river!

6. Is lacking impulsive control, antisocial? Depends on what you do with it...

7. Is fowling your own nest, antisocial? Where else should fowls be, but in their nests?

Get a life folks... Martin Gibson ain't no thang...   Ain't no thing but a chicken-wing...

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: kendall
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 12:28 PM

The ones who post under their own names are the grown ups.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Amos
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 10:39 AM

Guest:

Those links are a complete crack up.

Your identification of passive-aggressiveness is interesting; it sounds like you are posing as Innocence Abused. If you had specifics, it would make a lot more sense.

I like the Howlers!! :D

A

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 10:19 AM

Ignoring him is like trying not to crane your neck to get a glimpse of a car accident as you're driving by the scene of the wreck.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Wesley S
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 10:00 AM

Yes the very best thing we can do is ignore him completely.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 09:52 AM

Don't you get it, GUEST? The tables have turned. Martin is now the Village Fool, and it is the rest od us now who taunt him, hoping to see yet another of his famous reactions, or a [bleep](for antisocial behaviour).

It feels that way, folks - we shouldn't be proud of that. Let's leave the poor wretch alone.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 08:38 AM

Now, why do you people keep paying attention to this guy? He is just desperately seeking the attention you all love to give him!

One of these guys , who is a bit of this, and a whole lot of that shows up here, and all the usual Mudcat suspects load up their shit throwers, and start playing the same old same old flame game with him.

Martin is your forum toy.. The too easy target of your liberal angst. Anyone who responds to him and plays along in kind is as bad as he is, but just uses "nice" language to say so.

That's what makes every single member posting here (and the forum moderators who tolerate Martin) such hypocrites. You claim to be holier than thou "nice" people, yet you play these passive aggressive games.

Martin Gibson isn't the only member who needs to grow up.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: kendall
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 07:47 AM

Anyone who is unable to say what they think without sinking into a vitriolic tirade aimed at another member has a problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: Stu
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 07:21 AM

Isn't ridiculing religion anti-social behavior?
......yes


...or no.

Bill Hicks? Monty Python? etc etc.

Just more of Martin's flamebait (to which I've just responded - doh!)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti-social behavior
From: LadyJean
Date: 31 Mar 05 - 12:31 AM

Working my way down the list, I have to say it depends on how you do it.
Making fun of Jews can be anti social, if you're a Nazi. Or a full time career if you're Jerry Seinfeld.
Showing disrespect to the president can be anti social behavior if you're Lee Harvey Oswald, or a full time career, if you're any number of stand up comics.
Defending Marxism is an act of heroism if you're an ACLU lawyer, and a dirty deed if you are Lee Harvey Oswald.
Now I had a roommate at O.U. who was a serious drug user. Her behavior was annoying, sometimes seriously worrying. She was a world class pain in the derriere. But I would not call her behavior anti social. Sometimes it was entirely too social. Saturday and Sunday mornings I used to hone my detective skills helping to figure out where she'd been and what she'd done the night before. When she wasn't sober she wasn't picky about who she went to bed with, and she didn't always remember the next day.
In 1993 I broke my arm very badly. I was uninsured at the time, and wound up owing Shadyside Hospital $17000. I didn't have it. I didn't have any way of getting it. My sister deliberately put off settling our mother's estate until after the bill was settled. So I applied to the state for medical assistance, and got it. I don't have it now. But at the time, it settled a whopper of a debt, and got that *&^%!!! collection agency out of my life. I also have the use of my left arm, which makes it easier for me to earn my living. So I can't say I was sponging.