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Alternative British Folk Awards 2005

GUEST,MC Fat 11 Mar 05 - 07:06 AM
GUEST,Mike Harding 11 Mar 05 - 07:04 AM
IanC 11 Mar 05 - 04:30 AM
IanC 03 Mar 05 - 04:16 AM
Cllr 02 Mar 05 - 12:02 PM
Mary Humphreys 01 Mar 05 - 05:29 PM
My guru always said 01 Mar 05 - 04:04 PM
IanC 01 Mar 05 - 11:52 AM
Hawker 26 Feb 05 - 04:47 PM
GUEST 26 Feb 05 - 01:32 PM
GUEST,banzai 25 Feb 05 - 07:57 PM
GUEST,MC Fat 19 Feb 05 - 08:20 AM
Cats 18 Feb 05 - 04:57 PM
My guru always said 16 Feb 05 - 02:07 PM
GUEST 16 Feb 05 - 11:07 AM
GUEST,(same one as before) 16 Feb 05 - 08:32 AM
Folkiedave 15 Feb 05 - 05:45 PM
breezy 15 Feb 05 - 05:21 PM
George Papavgeris 15 Feb 05 - 03:20 PM
My guru always said 15 Feb 05 - 01:36 PM
BB 15 Feb 05 - 12:25 PM
breezy 14 Feb 05 - 05:55 PM
BB 14 Feb 05 - 05:23 PM
GUEST 14 Feb 05 - 07:41 AM
GUEST,Rob Wright 14 Feb 05 - 07:27 AM
IanC 14 Feb 05 - 04:57 AM
IanC 11 Feb 05 - 04:07 AM
GUEST,Sooty,Sweep & Sue 10 Feb 05 - 01:47 PM
My guru always said 10 Feb 05 - 09:03 AM
Splott Man 10 Feb 05 - 04:09 AM
My guru always said 09 Feb 05 - 05:19 PM
My guru always said 09 Feb 05 - 05:06 PM
Moses 09 Feb 05 - 03:49 AM
Snuffy 08 Feb 05 - 07:05 PM
Cats 08 Feb 05 - 06:06 PM
vectis 08 Feb 05 - 03:56 PM
vectis 08 Feb 05 - 03:47 PM
IanC 08 Feb 05 - 11:32 AM
treewind 03 Feb 05 - 08:18 AM
Hawker 03 Feb 05 - 07:56 AM
GUEST,Limehouse Lizzy 02 Feb 05 - 09:54 PM
Hawker 02 Feb 05 - 08:31 PM
breezy 02 Feb 05 - 03:54 PM
Fidjit 02 Feb 05 - 02:57 PM
George Papavgeris 02 Feb 05 - 02:49 PM
treewind 02 Feb 05 - 02:34 PM
GUEST,IanC 02 Feb 05 - 12:38 PM
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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 07:06 AM

Can I be considered by proxy as I couldn't attend plus is the mummers play at Tap the Sooty and Sweep one ?


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST,Mike Harding
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 07:04 AM

Bugger off you lot!


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: IanC
Date: 11 Mar 05 - 04:30 AM

Sorry, I've been down with the office flu all week so haven't been around.

Does anyone have any comments on, or information about any of the nominees?

Also, do we have the results of the Miskin eliminator for the HORIZONTAL AWARD?

:-)
Ian


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: IanC
Date: 03 Mar 05 - 04:16 AM

Mudcat 2005 Alternative British Folk Awards - Nominations Accepted!

THE COMMITTEE has met and the following nominations have been accepted (please PM me if there are any omissions which you feel need to go in at this stage and THE COMMITTEE will consider them).


1. PUB/CLUB FOLK SINGER OF THE YEAR
(A) Bob Fox
(B) Christine Connolley ("Moses")
(C) Jeff Hankin
(D) George Papavgeris
(E) Ken Stevens

2. PUB/CLUB MUSICIAN OF THE YEAR
(A) John Breeze
(B) Pete Coe
(C) Geoff Higginbottom
(D) John Kirkpatrick
(E) Pat Smith
(F) Miranda Sykes

3. BEST "NON COMMERCIAL" GROUP / DUO
(A) Blake's 3
(B) Charlie & Adrian Button (Of Hobgoblin store in Nottingham)
(C) Mary Humphries & Anahata
(D) 'Moses and the Ref'
(E) 'Pig's Ear'
(F) Pat Smith & Ned Clamp

4. BEST "NON COMMERCIAL" CD
(A) "Donovan Songs" -Pete Rimmer
(B) "Echoes of Mingulay" - Les Sullivan
(C) "Guide Cats for the Blind"
(D) "Too Far From The Shore" - The Boarding Party
(E) Jeff Hankin's CD (anybody tell me what it's called?)

5. HORIZONTAL AWARD (Best drinker)
(A) Damian Barber
(B) Cllr (preferring otherwise to remain anonymous)
(C) Crispin Bartlett
(D) Avril Betts
(E) MC Fat
(F) Vaughan Hully ("Snuffy")
(G) Splott Man
(H) Hilary Ward ("MGAS")
(I) hris Wilson (Of the Wilson Family)

NOTE ... voting for the Horizontal Award this year is complicated by the fact that a number of the participants appear to have agreed to take part in an "eliminator" at Miskin on the weekend of the 4th - 6th March 2005. Your vote may be wasted if you vote for a nominee before the eliminators have been undertaken (!)


6. BEST FOLK CLUB
(A) Bothy Folk Club Southport
(B) The Carrington fc, Nottingham
(C) Llantrisant
(D) Seaford Folk Club
(E) Spotlight club, St Albans
(F) Windward, St Albans

7. BEST PUB SESSION (Regular)
(A) The Bull at Barton-le-Clay
(B) Crown & Treaty, Uxbridge
(C) The Guest House Southport
(D) Ram Inn, Firle, Sussex
(E) Y Mochyn Ddu, Cardiff

8. BEST PUB SESSION (Festival)
(A) The Bar Room, Miskin
(B) Bricklayers Arms (Whittlesea Straw Bear}
(C) The Endeavour, Whitby
(D) George Garside's slow English session at Whitby
(E) The Tap & Spile Whitby

9. BEST FOLK FESTIVAL
(A) Banbury
(B) Bridgenorth
(C) Miskin
(D) Saltburn
(E) Towersey
(F) Whitby
(G) Whittlesea Straw Bear

10. BEST FOLK DRAMA (non Mummers)
(A) 'Unsung Heroes - The Lost Gardeners Of Heligan' by The Cornwall Songwriters

11. BEST FOLK DRAMA (the "We do it in the road award" ... originally intended for Mummers Plays)
(A) The Mummers Play at The Tap and Spile, Whitby
(B) The Tonbridge Mummers (performing in monsoon conditions at last year's Broadstairs)

12. BEST REGULAR DANCE EVENT
(A) Haddenham Ceilidhs
(B) Phoenix Ceilidhs
(C) RUFF ceilidhs, Cardiff

13. BEST LOCAL FOLK MAGAZINE
(A) The Folk Diary
(B) Folk North West
(C) Stirrings
(D) Taplas
(E) Unicorn

SPECIAL AWARDS

14. LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD
(A) Vin Garbutt
(B) Andy Jackson (Miskin Festival)
(C) Chris Pitt, for misdemeanours in song (including the for Boars Head Parody)
(D) Dave Swarbrick
(E) Cyril Tawney
(F) Alan White (Wareham Wail and Sidmouth campsite)

15. WORST PRESENTER OF FOLK MUSIC
(A) Archie Fisher
(B) Mike Harding
(C) Splott Man

Votes should be PM'd to me as a single line of text (I don't much care what else you include, but it won't count) in the form 1A2B3C... etc. It's also easier if you include all numbers and simply put a" -" for categories you don't wish to vote for. Notes, comments, blatant self-promotions etc. here please, so everybody can see them and join in. You may vote for items which you have previously missed out at a later date.

GET VOTING!!!

:-)
Ian


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Cllr
Date: 02 Mar 05 - 12:02 PM

thank you for the nomination (i think)Id rank a litre of Port and brandy at miskin so i suggest we start off with that before we get down to the serious drinking. Mines a barrel of bombader nbomaner bonameer err Charlie wells Cllr


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Mary Humphreys
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 05:29 PM

Guru - we will be testing your reputation as La Grande Horizontale out this weekend.
All will be reported back to this forum......
Mary


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: My guru always said
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 04:04 PM

IanC: Dont forget, we haven't had the Grand Elimination for the Horizontal Position yet...............

teehee - think the plan has worked, it can't possibly be 3 years running now


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: IanC
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 11:52 AM

NOMINATIONS CLOSED

Nominations have now closed and THE COMMITTEE is now scanning them.

Voting will commence when the committee has done drinking.

:-)


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Hawker
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 04:47 PM

I'll second Cats on Alan White and Andy Jackson. Both tireless in their efforts and worthy of the accolade!
Cheers, Lucy


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Feb 05 - 01:32 PM

My nomination would have to be Archie Fisher, as I can't make out a word he says.

It drives me daft,when I'm trying to get a CD title or information on a performer.

Maybe somebody could send him a new set of false teeth...Ake


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST,banzai
Date: 25 Feb 05 - 07:57 PM

From: eric the red
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 12:23 AM
You forgot a nomination for the worst presenter of folk music on the radio EVER. Obviously only one nomination, Mike Hardly, oops Harding.

dear eric - i cant support these remarks about mike - in fact i think you are must be having a fool's interlude to say that. Dont you think Mike knows the ropes and the score. He knows and loves what happens at grass roots level. He mans the widest media opportunity to entice people into the genre with laudible discernment given commercial criteria that allow it to be there at all. People move from his programme to exploring folk clubs and their own desire to hear and contribute to live self-entertainment. Get real dude!


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 08:20 AM

Would come to the eliminator at Miskin but i'll be practising being horizontal in Barnsley that weekend but I've got to say that I'm chuffed to be mentioned gosh even choked ( I think I'll have a Gweneth Paltrow moment at t'wards ceremony)


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Cats
Date: 18 Feb 05 - 04:57 PM

For Life Time Achievement Awards I cannot split the nomination so I'll nominate two of the most dedicated folkies I know and both for the same reason. They have both given their lives to helping others find and enjoy folk music. Andy Jackson, who runs Miskin Festival and Alan White who runs Wareham Wail (and Sidmouth campsite). If anyone has ever been to either of these events you'll understand why and if you haven't... well isn't it about time you did? It's people like this who keep the tradition alive and well and make sure it is passed on to the next generation. Andy and Alan...


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: My guru always said
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 02:07 PM

Oops, butterfingers! I hereby nominate MC Fat for the Horizontal Award & invite him to Miskin at Easter for the grand elimination!!!


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 11:07 AM

Can't believe MC Fat has not yet been nominated for the Horizontal award...!


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST,(same one as before)
Date: 16 Feb 05 - 08:32 AM

OK, OK, I take it back quite readily.
But it DOES make you wonder, I mean, hardly a week goes by ...


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Folkiedave
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 05:45 PM

Absolutely no truth in such a scurrilous rumour - she has much better taste than that.

And I have slept with her so I should know. And with Katherine Roberts. And at the same time.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: breezy
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 05:21 PM

Well is there fire?

It would help explain a certain bias.


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 03:20 PM

Glad to know that I am not the only facetious "foot in mouth" catter.
GUEST's statement is downright libellous and its publication in Mudcat can render this forum liable. I'll ask Joe Offer to delete the post - if that's OK with Shambles, that is.


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: My guru always said
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 01:36 PM

You never can tell with Breezy, but he usually means well - heart of Gold & all that!

Anyway, Hear, Hear BB!!!


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: BB
Date: 15 Feb 05 - 12:25 PM

Of what? I'm hoping there was a hidden :) in your statement, Breezy!


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: breezy
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 05:55 PM

jealousy wont help.


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: BB
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 05:23 PM

Whatever we may think of either Mike Harding's programme or Kate Rusby's performance, I find the last comment entirely unnecessary and distasteful. Get back into the dung-heap where you belong!

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 07:41 AM

How about a "Who's shagging who" award for getting yourself on the Mike Harding programme more often than anyone else.

Winner this year and every year, Kate Rusby.


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST,Rob Wright
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 07:27 AM

Strongest Roadie.... Me. Scottish Champ, British Record Holder in the M3 75kg Raw category.

Rob Wright

Roadie for Taggart and Wright.


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: IanC
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 04:57 AM

More nominations?

:-)


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: IanC
Date: 11 Feb 05 - 04:07 AM

Well, what about 2 dategories of folk drama? One for Mummers Plays?

:-)


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST,Sooty,Sweep & Sue
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 01:47 PM

What about a speshull award for our Mummers Play at Tap and Spile at Whitby


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: My guru always said
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 09:03 AM

Fabulous!! I hereby also nominate Splott Man for the Horizontal Award & invite him to the finals at Miskin (someone ought to warn Andy methinks)

Do you think Chris Wilson will come along for the elimination? Or Damien Barber?


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Splott Man
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 04:09 AM

Looks like Miskin is gonna be boozy. Can I play?


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: My guru always said
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 05:19 PM

PUB/CLUB FOLK SINGER OF THE YEAR: El Greko (George Papavgeris)
PUB/CLUB MUSICIAN OF THE YEAR: Breezy
BEST "NON COMMERCIAL" GROUP / DUO: Mary Humphreys & Anahata (Treewind)
BEST "NON COMMERCIAL" CD: Guide Cats for the Blind
HORIZONTAL AWARD (Best drinker): Cllr - join the eliminator at Miskin!
BEST FOLK CLUB: Wandering Windward, St Albans (Breezy)
BEST PUB SESSION (Regular): The Bull at Barton-le-Clay (Ross)
BEST PUB SESSION (Festival): The Bar Room, Miskin (Miskin Man)
BEST FOLK FESTIVAL: Banbury (Merek'n'Dary)
BEST FOLK DRAMA: Definitely Unsung Heroes, the Lost Gardens of Heligan (Cats, Hawker & other associated Cornish Songwriters)
BEST REGULAR DANCE EVENT: Straw Bear
BEST LOCAL FOLK MAGAZINE: Unicorn


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: My guru always said
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 05:06 PM

Excellent idea Snuffy, I'm in - was wondering how to settle this *grin*


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Moses
Date: 09 Feb 05 - 03:49 AM

Avril Betts has offered to be nominated for the "horizontal" award. Just form a queue there fellas!


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Snuffy
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 07:05 PM

Perhaps Hilary (MGAS) and Crispin and myself should play an eliminator for the horizontal award at the best festival - Miskin at Easter


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Cats
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 06:06 PM

I have to agree with Hawker! Unsung Heroes has to be right up there for Best Folk Drama. If you haven't seen it, and loads of folkies travelled all the way down to Cornwall to see it actually performed in the Lost Gradens of Heligan, then it's a must.

Festivals.. Miskin and Bridgenorth


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: vectis
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 03:56 PM

Whoops sorry about that 'finger trouble'

PUB/CLUB FOLK SINGER OF THE YEAR Ken Stevens
PUB/CLUB MUSICIAN OF THE YEAR   Geoff Higginbottom, always good value
BEST "NON COMMERCIAL" GROUP / DUO Still 'Pig's Ear'
BEST "NON COMMERCIAL" CD Too Far From The Shore by The Boarding Party
HORIZONTAL AWARD (Best drinker) Snuffy
BEST FOLK CLUB   Seaford Folk Club, but I admit bias
BEST PUB SESSION (Regular) Ram Inn at Firle in Sussex (monthly)
BEST PUB SESSION (Festival) George Garside's slow English at Whitby
BEST FOLK FESTIVAL   Whitby
BEST FOLK DRAMA (the "We do it in the road award") It has to be The Tonbridge Mummers performing in monsoon conditions at last year's Broadstairs
BEST LOCAL FOLK MAGAZINE The Folk Diary


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: vectis
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 03:47 PM

PUB/CLUB FOLK SINGER OF THE YEAR
PUB/CLUB MUSICIAN OF THE YEAR
BEST "NON COMMERCIAL" GROUP / DUO
BEST "NON COMMERCIAL" CD
HORIZONTAL AWARD (Best drinker)
BEST FOLK CLUB
BEST PUB SESSION (Regular)
BEST PUB SESSION (Festival)
BEST FOLK FESTIVAL
BEST FOLK DRAMA (the "We do it in the road award")
BEST REGULAR DANCE EVENT
BEST LOCAL FOLK MAGAZINE


A number of SPECIAL AWARDS are also traditionally included in the ceremony (see below for examples). Your suggestions and nominations for any special categories will be considered by the committee.

The "Two In A Bar Award" for the best nonexistent Session/Singaround
The Larry Otway "Flat Earth" Award for Special International Effort
The Lifetime Achievement Award for whatever


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: IanC
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 11:32 AM

Any more nominations ... come on Hilary, or you'll get the Horizontal Award 3 years running and win the cup outright!

;-)


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: treewind
Date: 03 Feb 05 - 08:18 AM

THE 'WISH YOU WERE HERE' - PLEASE RETURN SAFELY & QUICKLY AWARD - Joint winners Cyril Tawney & Vin Garbutt

Don't forget Dave Swarbrick !

Anahata


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Hawker
Date: 03 Feb 05 - 07:56 AM

Best Folk Festival - Miskin at Easter


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST,Limehouse Lizzy
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 09:54 PM

How about nominations for:

BEST HORIZONTAL AWARD ARRANGER - Theakstons
BEST EX-FESTIVAL - Sidmouth
THE 'WISH YOU WERE HERE' - PLEASE RETURN SAFELY & QUICKLY AWARD - Joint winners Cyril Tawney & Vin Garbutt


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Hawker
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 08:31 PM

Could I nominate 'Unsung Heroes - The Lost Gardeners Of Heligan' by The Cornwall Songwriters for Best Folk Drama - If you havent seen it, go and see it and you see why I nominated it.
Cheers Lucy


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: breezy
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 03:54 PM

Villan wins that by a mile treewind.

Pete Coe slipped in for a quick one in St Albans this week and treated us to a couple of class songs.

See you soon

Julie Ellison this friday

If she's that good she could be in for votes, she already has Ralph Mctell's


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Fidjit
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 02:57 PM

10 year old fiddler has a Dad that plays melodeon. Anyone know his name?


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 02:49 PM

No competition there, Anahata; it would be unfair


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: treewind
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 02:34 PM

Can we have one for the most contrived club self-promotions....?

Anahata


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: GUEST,IanC
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 12:38 PM

ore niminations, please ............


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: Mary Humphreys
Date: 31 Jan 05 - 02:26 PM

F & Bflat are quite OK for an English ( or Duet) concertina player, but a bit of a pig for an Anglo. Anahata is one of the few people I know who can play in such keys.
The 10-year-old fiddler - I wish we knew his name - said he had learnt the tunes from recordings. If he's at Whitby again this year,he'll probably be running a workshop.....


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: breezy
Date: 31 Jan 05 - 08:03 AM

best 'twice a week' club award

may I ever so humbly nominate the St Albans 'Windward' and 'Spotlight' clubs they meet on Fridays and Sundays respectively at the Royal British legion with a full guest list


Best resident performers in the 'over 50s but under 55 ' age group

again may I humbly nominate

George Papavgeris and Chris Flegg who appear at the twin clubs in St Albans, at the Royal British Legion on Verulam Road

best new vocal duo award for 2005 in the over 50s age group
'Moses and the Ref'

For 'The club in the Smallest room ' award may I nominate
the 'Windward' and 'Spotlight' clubs, though the Crystal club in Stourbridge comes a close runner up.


For 'giving new talent a gig' award
once again it gives me great pleasure and satisfaction to make this unique award to the 'twin' clubs of St Albans.


Best Folk Club web site fiddler George Papavgeris, bloody clever fellow be he.


www.folk4all.net


btw this week the twin clubs present Julie Ellison Fri 4th Feb and Sun 6th Feb

Get well soon Vin you're booked in May


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Subject: RE: Alternative British Folk Awards 2005
From: IanC
Date: 31 Jan 05 - 05:05 AM

Hi!

I always like to provide some details about the nominees where possible. If anyone has the website or other info to do with any of the nmominations, it would prove very useful.

Cheers!

Ian


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