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BS: The War betting pool

Donuel 17 Mar 03 - 10:39 PM
*daylia* 17 Mar 03 - 10:38 AM
Wolfgang 17 Mar 03 - 10:20 AM
Mrrzy 24 Jan 03 - 12:46 PM
Donuel 23 Jan 03 - 07:13 PM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Jan 03 - 02:57 PM
GUEST 12 Jan 03 - 12:21 PM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Jan 03 - 12:14 PM
*daylia* 12 Jan 03 - 12:12 PM
*daylia* 12 Jan 03 - 11:59 AM
Donuel 12 Jan 03 - 10:45 AM
DougR 09 Jan 03 - 07:19 PM
GUEST,herc 09 Jan 03 - 06:24 PM
GUEST 09 Jan 03 - 04:28 PM
McGrath of Harlow 09 Jan 03 - 03:54 PM
Ebbie 09 Jan 03 - 03:51 PM
GUEST 09 Jan 03 - 03:46 PM
McGrath of Harlow 09 Jan 03 - 02:41 PM
*daylia* 09 Jan 03 - 02:24 PM
Donuel 09 Jan 03 - 12:26 AM
GUEST 08 Jan 03 - 09:55 PM
Donuel 08 Jan 03 - 07:45 PM
GUEST,lurker 08 Jan 03 - 12:17 PM
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Donuel 08 Jan 03 - 11:55 AM
SINSULL 07 Jan 03 - 07:48 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 10:39 PM

I did predict that we would never let the UN security council vote to occur.

Here is my take on Bush severing ties...
http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/water1.jpg


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: *daylia*
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 10:38 AM

Aha! So much for Mudcattian powers of prophecy! It's kinda fun, but spending one's energy in the here and now is probably more productive in the long run ...

So, are we still taking bids or what?

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Wolfgang
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 10:20 AM

I love reading old predictions.

If I haven't overlooked a post all predictions giving a date point to January or February.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 12:46 PM

I have a politically-aware friend who's been saying February since last summer... I think he's going to sweep the pool!


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 07:13 PM

Powell has done his best at slowing down the process while Powell's son organizes the FCC to march in step with the Bush goose step. The Pentagon is warning Bush against becoming a first strike nation.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1587.shtml
Bush will be giving his adolescent tantrums "Ima getin sick an tired ... I aint gonna watch this movie...etc.

The one ally remains to be UK.
Iraq gave Russia a better deal than the US. That leaves what we have promised China in Iraqi oil and a seat at the table.
That is if Russia stands off at lets their share evaporate.

Bush still wants jan 31 but may throw caution to the wind and go feb 15 even if it means leaving the UN.


This is my painting of the legacy that the Bush family will bring the world...
http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/bushg.jpg


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 02:57 PM

The question would be whether Blair could hold his party together if he were to back a war by Bush which didn't have the backing of the UN Security Council, and went against the finding of the arms inspectors.

He doesn't have to have a vote in parliament to go to war, but at some point there'd be a vote where he'd be in danger of having to turn to the Tories to protect his majority.

But see this story for another reason he might be a bit hesitant.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 12:21 PM

According to the polls that DougR cites, there is only majority support for Bush's plans IF it is done multi-laterally and with UN support. When you take away the latter, the poll numbers drop precipitously.

Just to throw a wrench in the works, I see the BBC is reporting today that:

"The UK would not join American unilateral military action against Iraq, according to International Development Secretary Clare Short.
Ms Short said the UK had a duty to try to keep the world united over the Iraq crisis and ensure the danger of Saddam Hussein was only tackled through the United Nations.

Other ministers have shied away from saying whether or not the UK would join America if it decided to act alone against Iraq."

I believe Bush could still get away with not having UN support, if he can keep Blair with him.   But if both the UN and the UK refuse to support an invasion, Bush and the boys will be WAY out on a limb. I'm not convinced they would do it without clear, enthusiastic support from one or the other. I think what they want very badly, for the sake of the upcoming 2004 elections, is the support of both the UN and the UK.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 12:14 PM

That's a majority for making war if the inspections turn up any evidence to confirm the alleagtions that Saddam has those weapons, Doug, or a majority for making war whatever happens, so long as Bush says so?

The impression we are getting here is that it is the latter.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: *daylia*
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 12:12 PM

He he he ... my computer was finally able to load the 'mothersmilk' pic today ... that is funny!

{{{ 8-) }}} daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: *daylia*
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 11:59 AM

WOW!    {{{ 8-( }}}    some art!

forgive them for they know not what they do

and even if they do know please forgive them anyway so you don't get pulled into their 'vile pool' of insanity


Thanks for the realism Donuel

Peace and hope and courage

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 10:45 AM

Back in the Nixon era the media was a pain in the ass to the administration. A crack appeared in their wall of lies when the Washington Post went ahead with Watergate even after being threatened. Today one by one, merger by merger the entire media has been bought by Military industrial companies like GE or corporations like Disney and Murdoch that have a go along to get along agreement with the government. The radio ownership is even more dramaticly right wing. These deliberate moves on the media is in part why the USA is becoming "by polls" a nation of sheeple.

We no longer even have a martyr for the left, and if we did, we would not hear about it on the media.

http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/easter.jpg

pic by don Hakman made yesterday.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: DougR
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 07:19 PM

I believe most polls show that the majority of the U. S. citizens are with the president. It is possible, you know, that the majority, not the minority is right on this issue. Impossible for most of you to believe, I know, but ...

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST,herc
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 06:24 PM

Personally, I have no acquaintance (here in Calif.) who believes an attack on Iraq is the appropriate option. There is a phenomenon of broad acceptance that in times of conflict, showing solidarity with the government is warranted. (This is reinforced in the presence of external criticism.) Perhaps, and I'd like to naively believe, it is the same old phenomenon that we now witness in the bulk of the commercial media, unchanged in character from prior similar circumstances. It may be traditional that internal dissent in times of near crisis is voiced primarily through alternative channels. This is a much more comforting than believing we are entering a new era of MCarthyesque nationalism.

Now, if (?) the media is reporting "overwhelming support" which does not exist, the question of culpability for such misinformation is large, but amorphous. "The media" is far from monolithic. Lack of professionalism? Exacerbated by corporate control? I don't know. . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 04:28 PM

So do we, McGrath. So do we.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 03:54 PM

I'm seeing enough to know it's happening, but also to be pretty clear that they're swimming against the tide, and I admire them all the morer for that.

Resistance to Vietnam was the same, until the body count got so high that the tide turned. I hope it doesn't have to be that way again.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 03:51 PM

I'm sure everyone has seen the speculation in various news media as to whether Saddam should or might go into exile.

QUESTION: If he did flee, how long do you think it would be before the US marched in and took over in Iraq?


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 03:46 PM

McGrath, you probably aren't seeing anything in your media about the hundreds of thousands of Americans who are right now actively working in a myriad of ways, to prevent the war from happening, ending the sanctions, seeking a just resolution of the Israeli/Palestinian crisis, fighting to expose the current administrations efforts to overthrow the elected government of Venezuela, etc.

As Che Guevara noted, some of us feel a sense of pride in our destiny to fight against these evils in the heart of the beast.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 02:41 PM

McGrath said something about how much more difficult it is for Americans who are working for peace than the rest of us, because they are the ones most vulnerable to the 'war-mongers' in their own country.

I wouldn't put it that way. There are "warmongers", but ordinary people who get pulled into falling into line with a consensus (that is perhaps shaped by the warmongers) don't merit the term.

What I meant was that it seems pretty clear that in the States - unless we are being lied to by the media - there is an overwhelming amount of support for the idea that Bush has got it right, and that a war against Iraq is necessary. It's very hard to stand up against a consensus like that, whether you are in Berlin or London in 1914 or in the USA in 2003.

Outside the States it's equally clear that the proportion of people who see it like that is pretty small. in most countries anyway, including the one I live in (and indeed in the whole of Western Europe). That makes it a lot easier for us.

And it means that, if we get dragged into it by the Government - which doesn't need a vote in Partliament to go to war, it being that kind of "Parliamentary Democracy" - we won't have any excuse for not kicking up one hell of a fuss.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: *daylia*
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 02:24 PM

Donuel thank you for the beautiful picture. I really love it, and I love this world and the people in it, war or no war.

McGrath said something about how much more difficult it is for Americans who are working for peace than the rest of us, because they are the ones most vulnerable to the 'war-mongers' in their own country. I thought a long time about that, tried to imagine myself as an American right now and what it would feel like to be directly 'under the gun' of all the propoganda and social control mechanisms. I don't envy your position at all, and I can see how much more desperate you must feel than I do, and I feel desperate enough believe me. It helped me understand better the reasons for posting a thread like this.

Peace and best wishes to you

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 12:26 AM

Who would know better than you.

I guess you wouldn't be surprised that my Yahoo site cleared over $400,000 in bets ($150,000 in secured bets) and we are cruisin our way to be millionaires baby. And while you're still so gullible I have some time share opportunities for you on Daytona beach.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 09:55 PM

I like the picute but Donuel you're still one sick bastard.

Betting on war, that's just sick and you are just stupid.


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Subject: UNSPEAKABLE EVIL
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 07:45 PM

In the cold of men's hearts
The power of all that is good
can be concentrated
to create unspeakable evil


http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/icefire1.jpg


When darkness comes
the winds of intolerance
fans the flames
across a beautiful land


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST,lurker
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 12:17 PM

"Highly intelligent people of conscience"? That's what you people consider yourselves to be? What a joke!!! I thought the people on the 'Peace' thread were out to lunch, but this adolescent male stupidity beats all!

Big Brother is watching you ...


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 12:03 PM

"The great musicicians of history like Casals, Stern, Pete Segar ... had a political legacy and voiced their opinions.

I would have expected the same from you...
because many of you are highly intelligent people of conscience."

I know exactly where you are coming from Donuel. Last month I started a thread asking what anti-war musicians here were doing in their communities to contribute to the anti-war cause, ie what organizations were people working with, were they doing CDs to raise money, benefit gigs, etc. Well, the response was very negative and damning of me personally (easy because I post anon), but I have said over and over again here how disillusioned I am with the American folk music community in this regard. It is as if everyone rolled over and played dead to the world in 1980.

My opinion of the American folk music scene has changed pretty dramatically in the wake of 9/11, and not for the better I am sad to say. Nowadays, the folk music scene seems to have many more politically conservative members than ever before, and many are openly hostile to any suggestion that folk music should be relevant to today's world (not "traditional" is what I hear over and over).

Not very encouraging, IMO.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 11:55 AM

On the forum Maestronet.com they have decided as a group to have no more anti war discussions except for how the left has brought down this country.


this was my response


At the most perilous period in our country's history:

When Bush is asked about going to war, he responded "with which country?"

When our political "servants" and media shout the most duplicitous lies and incite nuclear brinksmanship.

When Islamo fascists are determined to convert the world back to Islam (which very nearly happened 1,300 years ago)

When those who do not know their history are condemned to reapeat it.

You want a truce, you want to turn over and say "whatever" and giggle.

Everything about the life you have been living is changing and a familiar refuge is understandably attractive.

But does that mean reality is to be abandonned?
People normally condemn drug addicts for that kind of escapism.
.......................................................

My New Years resolution was to add a sharper edge to my paintings and words to match the times we are imminently facing.

Every time I smell the scent of fundamentalism and fascism coming from my own Americans (the very kind of philisophy we are challenged by from the Al Quida) - I will condemn it.

The Germans used to say "we didn't know" but you can be assured there were dissenting voices and that they were silenced.


Look folks, India is now attempting to deport 22 million people (muslims) from Bangladesh.

We are rounding them up by the hundreds (LA being the most recent)

Bogus alerts about 5 muslim men sneaking in through Canada is mouthed by the President, FBI and media.

Real threats go undiscussed.

...................................................

The great musicicians of history like Casals, Stern, Pete Segar ... had a political legacy and voiced their opinions.

I would have expected the same from you...
because many of you are highly intelligent people of conscience.

Defend
Peace
through understanding

War
when there is none.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 07:48 PM

NOPE! Previous offering in this vein: "Elvis lives evils."


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 06:50 PM

elvis veils lives...did we do that one yet?


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 06:46 PM

Elvis veils evils...better late than never.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 05:40 PM

Well this pool has done the trick
PBR just announced that war odds shifted from 60 40 to 40 60%less likely.
The problem is Turkey.

They are not rolling over and letting troops mass their automatically.
They are foot dragging as the pentagon says.
They are actually obeying their own constitution to vote on it.

Rumsfeld said today that "war is absolutely not imminent, why would you say that!".


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 04:27 PM

let me just say that Im not in favor of a war on Iraq, but
would like to see Saddam toppled, if only you could assassinate just him.
(because if youre going to say that a war will cause dead civilians, then how many deaths has Saddam and his crew caused, (gassing the Kurds, the Shia minority, the marsh arabs not to mention all the carnage from the Iran/Iraq war, invasion of Kuwait etc.)
One question: how many out there believe Israel was justified in bombing the Osirak Reactor in 1981?

Ironically the US and the European community condemned the attack - but tacitly approved.
(Im sure that the Gulf war would have been quite different
if the Israelis hadnt done it)


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Gareth
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 03:10 PM

MMMM ! As black humour goes Kipling did rather well with this, and I fear it is relavent !!!

The Ballad of Boh Da Thone
    This is the ballad of Boh Da Thone,
    Erst a Pretender to Theebaw's throne,
    Who harried the district of Alalone:
    How he met with his fate and the V.P.P.*
    At the hand of Harendra Mukerji,
    Senior Gomashta, G.B.T.

Boh Da Thone was a warrior bold:
His sword and his rifle were bossed with gold,

And the Peacock Banner his henchmen bore
Was stiff with bullion, but stiffer with gore.

He shot at the strong and he slashed at the weak
From the Salween scrub to the Chindwin teak:

He crucified noble, he sacrificed mean,
He filled old ladies with kerosene:

While over the water the papers cried,
"The patriot fights for his countryside!"

But little they cared for the Native Press,
The worn white soldiers in Khaki dress,

Who tramped through the jungle and camped in the byre,
Who died in the swamp and were tombed in the mire,

Who gave up their lives, at the Queen's Command,
For the Pride of their Race and the Peace of the Land.

Now, first of the foemen of Boh Da Thone
Was Captain O'Neil of the Black Tyrone,

And his was a Company, seventy strong,
Who hustled that dissolute Chief along.

There were lads from Galway and Louth and Meath
Who went to their death with a joke in their teeth,

And worshipped with fluency, fervour, and zeal
The mud on the boot-heels of "Crook" O'Neil.

But ever a blight on their labours lay,
And ever their quarry would vanish away,

Till the sun-dried boys of the Black Tyrone
Took a brotherly interest in Boh Da Thone:

And, sooth, if pursuit in possession ends,
The Boh and his trackers were best of friends.

The word of a scout -- a march by night --
A rush through the mist -- a scattering fight --

A volley from cover -- a corpse in the clearing --
The glimpse of a loin-cloth and heavy jade earring --

The flare of a village -- the tally of slain --
And. . .the Boh was abroad on the raid again!

They cursed their luck, as the Irish will,
They gave him credit for cunning and skill,

They buried their dead, they bolted their beef,
And started anew on the track of the thief

Till, in place of the "Kalends of Greece", men said,
"When Crook and his darlings come back with the head."

They had hunted the Boh from the hills to the plain --
He doubled and broke for the hills again:

They had crippled his power for rapine and raid,
They had routed him out of his pet stockade,

And at last, they came, when the Daystar tired,
To a camp deserted -- a village fired.

A black cross blistered the morning-gold,
And the body upon it was stark and cold.

The wind of the dawn went merrily past,
The high grass bowed her plumes to the blast.

And out of the grass, on a sudden, broke
A spirtle of fire, a whorl of smoke --

And Captain O'Neil of the Black Tyrone
Was blessed with a slug in the ulnar-bone --
The gift of his enemy Boh Da Thone.

(Now a slug that is hammered from telegraph-wire
Is a thorn in the flesh and a rankling fire.)

    .    .    .    .    .

The shot-wound festered -- as shot-wounds may
In a steaming barrack at Mandalay.

The left arm throbbed, and the Captain swore,
"I'd like to be after the Boh once more!"

The fever held him -- the Captain said,
"I'd give a hundred to look at his head!"

The Hospital punkahs creaked and whirred,
But Babu Harendra (Gomashta) heard.

He thought of the cane-brake, green and dank,
That girdled his home by the Dacca tank.

He thought of his wife and his High School son,
He thought -- but abandoned the thought -- of a gun.

His sleep was broken by visions dread
Of a shining Boh with a silver head.

He kept his counsel and went his way,
And swindled the cartmen of half their pay.

    .    .    .    .    .

And the months went on, as the worst must do,
And the Boh returned to the raid anew.

But the Captain had quitted the long-drawn strife,
And in far Simoorie had taken a wife;

And she was a damsel of delicate mould,
With hair like the sunshine and heart of gold,

And little she knew the arms that embraced
Had cloven a man from the brow to the waist:

And little she knew that the loving lips
Had ordered a quivering life's eclipse,

Or the eye that lit at her lightest breath
Had glared unawed in the Gates of Death.

(For these be matters a man would hide,
As a general rule, from an innocent Bride.)

And little the Captain thought of the past,
And, of all men, Babu Harendra last.

    .    .    .    .    .

But slow, in the sludge of the Kathun road,
The Government Bullock Train toted its load.

Speckless and spotless and shining with ghi,
In the rearmost cart sat the Babu-jee.

And ever a phantom before him fled
Of a scowling Boh with a silver head.

Then the lead-cart stuck, though the coolies slaved,
And the cartmen flogged and the escort raved;

And out of the jungle, with yells and squeals,
Pranced Boh Da Thone, and his gang at his heels!

Then belching blunderbuss answered back
The Snider's snarl and the carbine's crack,

And the blithe revolver began to sing
To the blade that twanged on the locking-ring,

And the brown flesh blued where the bay'net kissed,
As the steel shot back with a wrench and a twist,

And the great white oxen with onyx eyes
Watched the souls of the dead arise,

And over the smoke of the fusillade
The Peacock Banner staggered and swayed.

Oh, gayest of scrimmages man may see
Is a well-worked rush on the G.B.T.!

The Babu shook at the horrible sight,
And girded his ponderous loins for flight,

But Fate had ordained that the Boh should start
On a lone-hand raid of the rearmost cart,

And out of that cart, with a bellow of woe,
The Babu fell -- flat on the top of the Boh!

For years had Harendra served the State,
To the growth of his purse and the girth of his p]^et.

There were twenty stone, as the tally-man knows,
On the broad of the chest of this best of Bohs.

And twenty stone from a height discharged
Are bad for a Boh with a spleen enlarged.

Oh, short was the struggle -- severe was the shock --
He dropped like a bullock -- he lay like a block;

And the Babu above him, convulsed with fear,
Heard the labouring life-breath hissed out in his ear.

And thus in a fashion undignified
The princely pest of the Chindwin died.

    .    .    .    .    .

Turn now to Simoorie where, lapped in his ease,
The Captain is petting the Bride on his knees,

Where the whit of the bullet, the wounded man's scream
Are mixed as the mist of some devilish dream --

Forgotten, forgotten the sweat of the shambles
Where the hill-daisy blooms and the gray monkey gambols,

From the sword-belt set free and released from the steel,
The Peace of the Lord is on Captain O'Neil.

    .    .    .    .    .

Up the hill to Simoorie -- most patient of drudges --
The bags on his shoulder, the mail-runner trudges.

"For Captain O'Neil, Sahib. One hundred and ten
Rupees to collect on delivery."
                                 Then

(Their breakfast was stopped while the screw-jack and hammer
Tore waxcloth, split teak-wood, and chipped out the dammer;)

Open-eyed, open-mouthed, on the napery's snow,
With a crash and a thud, rolled -- the Head of the Boh!

And gummed to the scalp was a letter which ran: --
               "IN FIELDING FORCE SERVICE.
                   Encampment,
                              10th Jan.

"Dear Sir, -- I have honour to send, as you said,
For final approval (see under) Boh's Head;

"Was took by myself in most bloody affair.
By High Education brought pressure to bear.

"Now violate Liberty, time being bad,
To mail V.P.P. (rupees hundred) Please add

"Whatever Your Honour can pass. Price of Blood
Much cheap at one hundred, and children want food;

"So trusting Your Honour will somewhat retain
True love and affection for Govt. Bullock Train,

"And show awful kindness to satisfy me,
       I am,
            Graceful Master,
                         Your
                            H. MUKERJI."

    .    .    .    .    .

As the rabbit is drawn to the rattlesnake's power,
As the smoker's eye fills at the opium hour,

As a horse reaches up to the manger above,
As the waiting ear yearns for the whisper of love,

From the arms of the Bride, iron-visaged and slow,
The Captain bent down to the Head of the Boh.

And e'en as he looked on the Thing where It lay
'Twixt the winking new spoons and the napkins' array,

The freed mind fled back to the long-ago days --
The hand-to-hand scuffle -- the smoke and the blaze --

The forced march at night and the quick rush at dawn --
The banjo at twilight, the burial ere morn --

The stench of the marshes -- the raw, piercing smell
When the overhand stabbing-cut silenced the yell --

The oaths of his Irish that surged when they stood
Where the black crosses hung o'er the Kuttamow flood.

As a derelict ship drifts away with the tide
The Captain went out on the Past from his Bride,

Back, back, through the springs to the chill of the year,
When he hunted the Boh from Maloon to Tsaleer.

As the shape of a corpse dimmers up through deep water,
In his eye lit the passionless passion of slaughter,

And men who had fought with O'Neil for the life
Had gazed on his face with less dread than his wife.

For she who had held him so long could not hold him --
Though a four-month Eternity should have controlled him --

But watched the twin Terror -- the head turned to head --
The scowling, scarred Black, and the flushed savage Red --

The spirit that changed from her knowing and flew to
Some grim hidden Past she had never a clue to.

But It knew as It grinned, for he touched it unfearing,
And muttered aloud, "So you kept that jade earring!"

Then nodded, and kindly, as friend nods to friend,
"Old man, you fought well, but you lost in the end."

    .    .    .    .    .

The visions departed, and Shame followed Passion: --
"He took what I said in this horrible fashion,

"I'll write to Harendra!" With language unsainted
The Captain came back to the Bride. . .who had fainted.

    .    .    .    .    .

And this is a fiction? No. Go to Simoorie
And look at their baby, a twelve-month old Houri,

A pert little, Irish-eyed Kathleen Mavournin --
She's always about on the Mall of a mornin' --

And you'll see, if her right shoulder-strap is displaced,
This: Gules upon argent, a Boh's Head, erased!


* Value Payable Parcels Post: in which the Government collects the money for the sender.


Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 11:35 AM

It's the sickness of the Bushies that justifies it. Never mistake a disabused idealist for a cynic.

Of all the anagrams above, the winner has to be "Hess, I'm Dad's anus". It says it all, even the reference to futile attempts to prevent a war caused by your own side. If Bush finally and miraculously pulls back, he'll re-brand himself as a man of peace, and who knows even get the Henry Kissinger memorial Nobel peace prize.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: TIA
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 10:19 AM

You're right. War just isn't funny.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 10:11 AM

This is the worst humor challenged thread I think I've ever seen in Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST,Tam frae Scotland
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 01:50 AM

Now I can take a joke like everyone else however there are some so called jokes that even I find sick.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST,Tam frae Scotland
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 01:47 AM

I think that people who think that jokes about babes smoking dope is funny, are sick bastards.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 12:36 AM

I'm impressed!

A band is a lemon
Noise and a lamb
O, banana smiled
Lame abo in sand (for the Oz folks)

I'm sure there are dozens of others, but it's getting late.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: guess my name
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 12:14 AM

Had assumed sin
His Dad's ass menu
US hid a madness
As sand used him
A Dead Miss Shun
Has a muddiness
Is Medusa's hand
Deism shuns a ad
A hiss damned US
As his US demand
Is a sanded mush
He's a US dad's min.
US hiss dead man
Amused hind ass
Unmade ass dish
Is UN smash dead
Hi, A dad's UN mess
US minds a Hades
Dashes a US mind
Dashes a nudism
Duh, is Ed Assman
I'm Dad, She's Anus
Hess, I'm Dad's anus
Dead Ham's sinus
His assumed DNA
His a D.U. madness
A hand used sims
Mad as sun hides
US dishes a damn
Ed damns a sushi
She is a DNA's mud

Sudan hid a mess
Hems Asian duds
Ends as a HUDism
Ned's a humid ass
Send him a DU ass

Adam hid USN SSE
USA Dad hiss men
Him, UN's dead ass
Dame's anus dish
I damn US shades
Saud shims Dane


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 10:21 PM

elvis lives evils...


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 09:40 PM

...and all of them are one letter away from Elvis. Hmmm.....

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 07:22 PM

"vile" and "evil" are both anagrams of "live" for that matter.

I think keeping your eyes open on the evil things that can happen in the world is an important part of loving it. I wouldn't think too much of parents who ignored the fact that their child was being bullied at school, for example, because it upset them to think about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 06:53 PM

That was funny! Thanks Donuel I think this thread needed a little lightening up.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 05:53 PM

day lia - breathing deep


http://www.nurple.com/graphics/animation/nurple-mothersmilk.gif


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 05:41 PM

"And all those nasty little Barney kids singing "I love you. You love me..."

In a "Village of the Damned/Midwich Cuckoos" sort of way! Surreal!


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 05:30 PM

And all those nasty little Barney kids singing "I love you. You love me..." It works for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 05:25 PM

literally and metaphorically.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 05:20 PM

vile is an anagram of evil.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 05:04 PM

"And I thought you meant Barney, the purple dinosaur. Thanks for the clarification."

Not at all, Sinsull. Though I must say, I'm mildly amused at the image of an asphyxiated Bush carcass being consumed by Barney the purple dinosaur. The highlight of my day!


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 04:59 PM

And I thought you meant Barney, the purple dinosaur. Thanks for the clarification. I would have been awake all night trying to figure that one out.

I remember reading an article about the testing of the first atomic bomb - Fat Boy(?). The writer was shocked and disgusted over a lottery conducted by the technicians working on the Manhattan Project. They bet on whether or not the detonation would set fire to the earth's atmosphere and destroy the world. It was, of course, black humor. No one wanted to win that bet either.

Play nice, children.


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Subject: RE: BS: The War betting pool
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 04:41 PM

I was referring to the Bush's dog, Barney.


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