Songs about getting really old? - 1

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Oct 97 - 05:42 PM

I can never remember faces, but I always forget a name....(at least, I think that's how it goes....)

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Peter T.
Date: 21 Oct 97 - 09:25 AM

Continuing thanks. David, that reminds me of "Yesterday, when I was young" (first line of a song by a famous country and western singer whose name, like rain upon my tongue, I can't at this moment recall). I will curse myself -- age, age, can remember faces, but... Yours, Peter

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: David F
Date: 20 Oct 97 - 08:19 PM

Wasn't it Sinatra that sang "It was a very good year"? As in "When I was 17 It was a very good year...."

Then there was an old song with the refrain "Ain't a gonna need this house no longer, ain't a gonna need this house no more...."

Both of these are good "Old" songs.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Pete M
Date: 18 Oct 97 - 10:14 PM

Thanks to Wolfgang for the missing lines. I think they are the same version actually, just my memory failing!

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Steve D.
Date: 15 Oct 97 - 06:33 AM

There's a couple of Pete Seeger numbers I can think of. One goes 'How do I know my youth is all spent, my get up and go has got up and went'(!). The other is a ramble on the 'Precious Friend' CD (with Arlo Guthrie) about a song that Lee Hayes wrote. Also good (though not strictly relevant) is 'Old Horse' as sung by Martin Carthy.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 15 Oct 97 - 06:08 AM

The Old Man's Song (Tale)

for Pete M.: Thanks for reminding me that fine song. I have a slightly different version of it (from the Big Red Songbook). Here are the missing bits in my version:

verse 3, line 3: "I lived on mud and tears and blood, three years or thereabouts"

verse 7: "My daughter was a landgirl, she got married to a Yank,
and they gave me son a gong for stopping one of Rommel's tanks.
He was wounded just before the end, and convalesced in Rome,
got married to an Eyetie nurse and never bothered to come home."

my version knows an extra verse, before your last verse:

verse 7b: "My daughter writes me once a month, a cheerful little note,
about their colour telly and the other things they've got,
she's got a son, a likely lad, he's nearly twenty one,
and she tells me now they've called him up to fight in Vietnam."

Regards Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Peter T.
Date: 14 Oct 97 - 02:41 PM

Continuing thanks for contributions. This group never fails to surprise and delight. "Old Rocking Chair's Got Me"... Yours, Peter

Subject: Lyr Add: THE OLD MAN'S SONG (Ian Campbell)^^
From: Pete M
Date: 14 Oct 97 - 04:44 AM

One song not mentioned so far and which unites this thread with the one work / labour is simply "the old mans song" written by Ian Campbell. It is also a possibly unconcious precursor /influence to Bogles Now I'm easy.

Most of the lyrics follow but there are two lines I can't recall. Anyone help?

THE OLD MAN'S SONG
(Ian Campbell)

At the turning of the century I was a boy of five,
Me father went to fight the Boers and never came back alive
Me ma was left to bring us up, no Charity she'd seek
She washed and scrubbed and scraped along on seven & six a week.

At the age of twelve I left the school and went to find a job,
With growing kids me Ma was glad of the extra couple of bob,
I'm sure that better schooling would have stood me in good stead,
But you can't aford refinement when you're struggling for your bread.

When the Great War came along I didn't hesitate,
I took the Royal shilling and went off to do me bit,
Three years I fought in in mud and ????
'til I copped some gas in Flanders and got invalided out.

And when the war was over and we'd settled with the Hun,
We got back into civvies and we thought the fighting done,
We'd won the right to live in Peace, but we didn't have such luck
For very soon we had to fight for the right to go to work.

In Twenty six the General Strike found me on the streets
Though I'd a wife and kids by then and their needs I had to meet
But a Brave New world was coming and the Brotherhood of man,
But when the strike was over we were back where we began.

I struggled through the Thirties, out of work now and again,
I saw the Blackshirts marching and the things they did in Spain
But I raised me children decent and I taught them wrong from right,
But Hitler was the man that came and taught them how to fight.

They gave me son a gong for stopping one of Rommel's tanks,
???? and convaleced in Rome,
Got married to an Eytie nurse and never bothered to come home.

I'm living on the pension now, it doesn't go too far,
Not much to show for a life that's been like one long bloody war,
When I think of all the wasted lives it makes you want to cry,
I'm not sure how to change things - but by Christ we have to try.

PM^^

Subject: Lyr Add: TIME'S ALTERATION; OR, THE OLD MAN'S...
From: Bruce
Date: 14 Oct 97 - 02:41 AM

Ref. LeMarca, Oct.10
"When this old hat was new" is in Whitaker's 'North Countrie Ballads', 1921 (and nowhere else?). I once saw this book, (where?) but, unfortunately, did not copy this song. What may be an earlier version is:

Time's Alteration; Or,
The Old Man's rehearsall, what brave days he knew,
A great while agone, when his Old Cap was new.

To the tune of Ile nere be drunke againe.

When this old cap was new,
'Tis since two hundred yeere;
No malice then we knew,
But all things plentie were:
All friendship now decayes
(Believe me, this is true),
Which was not in those dayes
When this old cap was new.

Twelve more verses contrasting old times with the new, with the burden 'When this old cap was new' throughout. 'New' being c 1618-29. By Martin Parker. Broadside Index- ZN2893.

Some other 17th century ballads about some of the problems of old age- [first line/ref #/title]:

All you that fathers be/ ZN131| A Ballad Intituled, The Old mans complaint.
An old song made, of an old aged pate/ ZN183| An Old Song of the old courtier. By T. Howard [See DT under "Old Soldiers of the Queen"]
He that is a clear Cavalier will not repine/ ZN1113| The Old Cavalier.
If I live to grow old/ ZN1387| The Old Mans Wish.
O that I was now a marry'd wife/ ZN2045| An Answer to the Old Man's Wish.
If I was young, as now I am old/ ZN1388| A New Song, Call'd The Old Mans Wish.
In Nineve old Toby dwelt/ ZN1446| A Pleasant new Ballad of Old Toby [Tobias].
It was an old man which with his poore wife/ ZN1526| A most excellent ballad, of an old man and his wife.

There are also many ballads about old people, including some who wouldn't act like others expected (i.e, bawdy). There is also one about the Dutch Miller who put old wives and harlots into his mill and ground out tender young virgins (adapted from an earlier German illustrated broadsheet). A cheap print of a large engraving of this mill was a very popular wall decoration in English county cottages in the 18th century).

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: alison
Date: 13 Oct 97 - 06:33 PM

hi

Yes I agree the "Kilkelly" is depressing, but it's also supposed to be true. Apparently there is a collection of the letters somewhere in the US (in a museum) and someone thought it would make a good song.

Slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: PHIL THOMAS
Date: 13 Oct 97 - 04:32 AM

Sam Eskin sang "My children are laughing behind my back..." on his 10" Folkways LP. A great antidote to ageism.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Bruce
Date: 12 Oct 97 - 07:36 PM

Alan, Burns had nothing to do with the bawdy "John Anderson my Jo". The first version in DT, except for verse order and spelling is practically the same as that in 'The Masque', 2nd edit. 1768. Burns was then 9 years old. A version of five verses is in "Philomel', 1744, reprinted in the first volume of 'The Comic Miscellany,' 1756. The later version is also in other songbooks before its appearance in 'The Merry Muses of Caledonia' (1799), and appears with its tune in 'The Convivial Songster' 1782.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Doug Ramsey
Date: 12 Oct 97 - 06:15 PM

One of my favorite songs about growing old is "75 Septembers" by Cheryl Wheeler. The most accessible recording of it is on the Peter Paul and Mary lifelines album...

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Oct 97 - 01:25 AM

I think I have 95% of everything she has ever recorded...never got tired of hearing her....heard her first in 1963.....checked out a record from the library....most are still available in some form....

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Alice
Date: 11 Oct 97 - 08:57 PM

dick.. I looked at the list under @age* and found some really touching gems like FARAWAY TOM, which I have never heard. Makes me want to find all the recordings Jean Redpath has ever done. Alice in Montana

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Oct 97 - 08:08 PM

Oscar Brand did a couple of programs at local (Wash DC)libraries just a few months ago...I didn't go...but I guess he is doing ok...

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From:
Date: 11 Oct 97 - 02:35 PM

Oscar Brand recorded "I Was Born About 10,000 Years Ago". I have it on vinyl. (Whatever happened to him, anyway?)

Alison, "Kilkelly" must be one of the most depressing songs I've ever seen.

Subject: Lyr Add: WHEN THIS OLD HAT WAS NEW
From: LaMarca
Date: 10 Oct 97 - 02:41 PM

Some others that fit, just off the top of my head:

WHEN THIS OLD HAT WAS NEW (trad, from Chris Foster)

I am a poor old man
Come listen to my song
Provisions now are twice as dear
As when that we were young
The poor are quite done o'er
We know this to be true,
But it was not so when Bess did reign
And this old hat was new,
When this old hat was new

I'll post the rest for the database next week when I can bring the correct words from home

Silver In the Stubble by Sidney Carter, in the DT here

In the Rare Ol' Times - Pete St. John's depressing song about Dublin's changes over the years. DT has it here (without an author listed, and some garbling of verses...)

Time Has Made A Change In Me - in the DT here

What's the Life of a Man? (in the DT here

Chorus: What's the life of a man, more than that of the leaves
A man has his seasons, so why should he grieve
Although in this life we appear fine and gay
Like the leaves we must wither and soon fade away

A cheery little ditty...

Generations of Change - old man reminiscing about the change in trades in Scotland over the years, by Scottish songwriter Matt Armor, in DT here

And how can we forget the oldest man (woman?) of all in
I Was Born About 10.000 Years Ago (in the DT as Just the Facts, Ma'am, Woody Guthrie's intertwining of 10,000 Years with Great Historical Bum!)

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Whippoorwill
Date: 10 Oct 97 - 10:43 AM

Running the gamut from the sloppily sentimental to the sublimely ridiculous, there's "Old Dogs and Children and Watermelon Wine," and from the '40s, "He's Too Old to Cut the Mustard Any More."

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 09 Oct 97 - 09:10 PM

G'day,
To anna root I may be wrong but I think the bawdy version of John Anderson my Jo is a Robbie Burns version.

Cheers,
Alan

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: TomG
Date: 09 Oct 97 - 03:06 PM

Besides "September Song", which I'm sure you know, there is "Younger than Spring" and "Once Upon a Time". I am 62 and I sing these around the campfire when called upon for "old folks' songs. If you don't know the lyrics or can't find them, e-mail me at [e-mail] and I'll send them or put them here.

Tom

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: dulcimer
Date: 08 Oct 97 - 10:33 PM

Check out a song by the Carter Family, 1930, called The Little Log Hut in the Lane. It starts--

Mama says she don't want me cause I getting old.
'Fraid that I might freeze to death, the weather is so cold.\

--- on Rounder C 1066

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Will
Date: 08 Oct 97 - 09:46 PM

Yes, Streets of London is great. It's in Rise Up Singing, too.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: anna root
Date: 08 Oct 97 - 08:12 PM

An unusual one, and in the DT, is a version of "John Anderson, My Jo" where John's wife laments that

"John Anderson, my jo, John
When first that ye began
Ye had as good a tail-tree
As ony ither man
But now its waxen wan, John
And wrinkles to and fro
I've twa gae-ups for ae gae-down
John Anderson, my jo"

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 08 Oct 97 - 07:14 PM

My own favorites (at least today) are The Good Boy and Silver in the Stubble. Both in the database.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Bob Landry
Date: 08 Oct 97 - 12:01 PM

I was flipping through my "A" book last night and came across "Streets of London" by Ralph McTell. A poignant commentary on how our youth and money oriented society treats old people. It's in the database

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Justin
Date: 08 Oct 97 - 11:08 AM

Good Alan. I heard Eric Bogle do his own parody for a sound check once in Princeton (NJ). It started, "For nearly 60 years I've been a jockey," and complained of saddle sores. A really good song that kind of goes with "Now I'm Easy" is Judy Small's (not on the database) ... now I can't remember the title, but it's chorus has "Sometimes I wonder if it all was worth the doin'...and some times I think this was the finest life of all". Priscilla Herdman recorded it on an early album. I'll get the words & submit them.

Subject: Lyr Add: IT'S NOT EASY (Alan Foster)
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 08 Oct 97 - 04:51 AM

G'day,
Eric Bogle's "now I'm Easy" is actually full of Aussie references:-

cocky - Aussie slang for farmer

droughts & fires & floods - could be anywhere maybe, but applies particularly to Oz.

Flying Doctor - Royal Flying Doctor Service which brings medical help to people in outlying areas covering 2 million square miles and has been operating since 1927. Started by Rev. John Flynn (Flynn of the Inland) and Alfred Traeger who invented the pedal wireless which was used for many years by remote farmers etc.

gin (definitely not gent) - see Alison's post above.

And here's a parody:-

IT'S NOT EASY

by Alan Foster

For nearly sixty years I've been a folky
Of clubs and pubs and festivals I've seen plenty
And one day I'll make my name
And I'll find fortune and fame
But I've nearly made it now and it's not easy.

Well I learnt to play guitar when I was twenty
And I started writing songs when I was thirty
And I sang my songs one day
But the audience faded away
But I've nearly made it now and it's not easy.

Pretty soon I'm gonna record a great new album
Full of Aussie songs, it'll really be fair dinkum
Then one day and it won't be long
I'm gonna write the world's best song
But I've nearly made it now and it's not easy.

Teenagers today despise the folky
Say compared to rock'n roll folk songs ain't funky
They say your songs are much too long
They exceed our attention span
But I've nearly made it now and it's not easy.

For nearly sixty years I've been a folky
Of clubs and pubs and festivals I've seen plenty
And I'll sing my songs once more
To an audience of four
But I've nearly made it now and it's not easy.

Cheers,
Alan

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Mark Pemburn
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 08:32 PM

Then there's "Rockin' Chair":

Rockin' chair done got me/ Cane by my side/ Hand me that gin boy/ Fo' I tan your hide

That's all I know of it. Hand me that whiskey, would ye?

Mark

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From:
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 07:12 PM

As I mentioned in the other thread, "Hello In There" by John Prine.

There is also that one that was a hit in the 1970's that began "Now I've been 'round for 80 summers . . ."

"Now I'm 64", the folksong, not to be confused with "When I'm 64" by the Beatles, which also qualifies.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Peter T.
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 05:45 PM

Dear Buck, No, Chanson is a different song, more about the savage (and now not so savage) relationship between a man and a woman.

More good songs (I have never heard).

Dear Nonie, I think it was Orwell somewhere who talked about being at the tail end of traditions he didn't know were passing on until afterwards, when they became curiosities. Like reading, for example. Yours, Peter

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Bert
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 05:09 PM

Talking of old ships, my Dad sings a song called "Goodbye Old Ship of Mine"

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Nonie Rider
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 04:46 PM

Yeah, I'd say MOST of Stan Rogers' songs are about getting older--as long as you include the aging and passing away of ships and jobs and ways of living.

Goddammit, I miss that man, and I never even met him.

Ever read Peter S. Beagle's THE FAIR FOLK? The main character is described by a friend as always mourning for things passing away, even if they haven't yet; always aware of what WILL pass.

--Nonie

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: S.P. Buck Mulligan
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 04:33 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if "Chanson de vieux amants" is in fact the same song Denver recorded in translation as "The Old Folks." but that's only a suspicion. I'd forgotten about "Angel" - it is indeed about growing old ("I am an old woman ....")

Not the real Buck (but I qualify for the "Plump" part; "stately"'s a judgment call though.)just a Joyce fan. Was once in a band, and we spent an entire evening (and several jugs of E&J's best) thinking up names. "Buck Mulligan Band" got the nod, and as I was in front, I was often mistaken for "Buck."

What about Kristofferson's great "Casey's Last Ride?" It's not strictly about getting old, I guess, but about maturing out of a relationship.

Or "Are You Tired Of Me, My Darling" which I think dates to the 1830s (Nanci Griffith did a smashing job on "Other Voices ..." with Chet atkins on acoustic 6 string. "Tecumseh Valley" by Townes van Zandt on the same disc is kinda about getting old (and then stopping getting older)

Stan Rogers did a nifty job with "Lies" though again, that's not about getting "Really" old, just getting on in years and on with life. On his "From Fresh Water" there's "The Last Watch" which deals with obsolescence, human and mechanical. I think that'd qualify.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Bill in Alabama
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 03:54 PM

There's always "Old and In the Way." I'm sure that it's in the DT.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 01:17 PM

Hi again- Just checked. The Digital Tradition database lists 99 songs dealing with age or aging. A start, at least.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 01:13 PM

Check out @age or @aging (or, better yet, @ag*) in the database.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: alison
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 08:36 AM

HI

What about the beautiful, (if depressing) Kilkelly, which I'm sure is in the database. About the old man's letters to his son.

Faals into my songs to slash your wrists to category, (along with Now I'm easy), but a great song nevertheless.

Slainte

Alison

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Wolfgang (Hell)
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 03:32 AM

What comes to my mind is the beautiful "Joy of living" (it is in the database) by the then quite old Ewan MacColl.
What also comes to my mind is the quite nasty "When you are old and grey" by Tom Lehrer (also in the DTDB)
Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 01:42 AM

I'm thinking of "Run the Film Backwards" by Sydney Carter, which I've heard sung by Iain MacKintosh on his album _Gentle Persuasion_ (Greentrax/ TRAX014) about getting younger and younger. It starts out "At the grand old age of eighty-seven, they took me from the coffin," and runs a life in reverse until he becomes a very young boy and "Mother means the world to me and soon I'll be inside her."

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Barry
Date: 07 Oct 97 - 01:02 AM

Now I'm Easy is from Eric Bogel, who wrote it (or so he says) after spending some time in a bar with an elderly gent who proceeded to tell his life story to Eric's willing ear. He then says after the story was finished he ran outside, behind the bar & jotted it all down as was related to him & it became song. Moore's "Believe Me If All Those Endearing Young Charms" & Dave Van Ronk's "Another Time And Place" are a few charmers. Barry

Subject: Lyr Add: GET UP AND GO (additional lyrics: Walden)
From: rich r
Date: 06 Oct 97 - 11:10 PM

"My Get Up and Go Has Got Up and Went" words Public domain and tune by Pete Seeger is in the database. In Pete's book (Where Have All The Flowers Gone) he relates the story of how he found the words on the back of a restaurant menu in Wisconsin and since has found evidence that it goes back at least to WW1. He also includes an alternative last verse and chorus that was went to him by Eleanor Walden.

I get up each morning and dust off my wits,
Open the paper and read the obits.
If I'm not there, I know I'm not gone,
So I eat a good breakfast and plan to go on.

For life is a blessing and love is a hope.
There's too much to do now to sit here and mope,
So I tie my Adidas and answer the call.
I'll die in the struggle or I won't die at all.

How do I know I'm ready to fight?
My get up and go is still within sight.
In spite of my body, my spirit is strong,
And I'm passing the torch from the old to the young.

rich r

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Pauline Lerner
Date: 06 Oct 97 - 10:19 PM

A bunch of them, with different moods, come to mind: 1. Hats Off to Old Folks, by Schooner Fare, is actually upbeat. 2. Sailor's Rest, by Stan Rogers, is depressing. 3. Saltwater Farm, by Schooner Fair, is about unfulfilled dreams of an old man. 4. Eileen Aroon, by Trad., addresses aging of a pretty woman. 5. Eyes of a Painter, by Kate Wolf, is a kind, loving portrait of Grandpa.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Moira Cameron
Date: 06 Oct 97 - 08:56 PM

There's a couple of humourous songs sung by the late David Parry that come to my mind. One is a song called "Greezy Mac" about an older man who consideres himself a 'bar-maid connoiseur'. The other one is (I believe) a Robert Service poen that David put to music called "I wish I was eighty again." Actually, Robert Service wrote quite a few poems about getting old or being old; some of them funny, some not.

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Peter T.
Date: 06 Oct 97 - 07:03 PM

Wherever it is from, a good song. Must find the record, before I get too old....Yours, Peter

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Carl
Date: 06 Oct 97 - 06:38 PM

Hi Alison,
As this thread went via Now I´m easy directly to Australia, I waited for you to respond, and there it is.
But could also be Ireland. Only the hint of the Burma Railway and the black gent/gin showed clearly that it´s Australia-originated. Some songs sung in Ireland come from Australia, like one of my favourites "Waltzing Matilda".

Well, there´s no particular message in this answer, I know. Just wanted to have a little chat, and the chat-room is always empty...

Slan go foill, Carl

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: alison
Date: 06 Oct 97 - 06:25 PM

HI

Now I'm easy is about Australia.

The words are in the dfatabase but just to correct what was said up above, it goes....

No flying doctor then, just a gentle old black gin, (Aboriginal woman.)

Come on Alan of Oz, give them the other version........

Slainte

Alison

Subject: Lyr Add: GET UP AND GO (partial lyrics)
From: Robert Lee
Date: 06 Oct 97 - 06:14 PM

A great song done by Pete Seeger on the Pete Seeger and Arlo Guthrie Live at Carnegie Hall album:

How do I know my youth is all spent?
My get-up-and-go has got up and went,
But in spite of it all I'm able to grin
And think of the places my get-up has been.

I wake up each morning and dust off my wits,
Pick up the paper, and read the obits.
If I'm not there, I know I'm not dead,
So I eat a good breakfast and go back to bed.

...there's lots more, but that's all I remember.

Robert Lee

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Harold
Date: 06 Oct 97 - 06:09 PM

Hey what´s the heck is going on here? I first searched the DT before making a fool out of me with submitting these fragments, but didn´t find it. Now I´m looking up something else and what do I see: Now I´m Easy !!!
Well, it´s after midnite here, perhaps I should go to bed now.
See ya tomorrow folks, good night to everybody,

Harald

Subject: RE: Songs about getting really old?
From: Harold
Date: 06 Oct 97 - 06:04 PM

Well, as far as I remember:

For nearly 60 years,I´ve been a cockey

I married a fine girl, when I was twenty
My wife died when giving birth, when she was thirty
No flying doctor then, just a gentle old black gent
But It´s nearly over now, and now I´m easy

She left me with two sons and with a daughter
And a bone dry farm, which soil cries out for water

me daughter married young and went her own way
me sons lie buried near the Burma Railway
But it´s nearly over now, and now I´m easy

Oh, what have I done? I´m ready to submit only fragments of a song. I thought, I would have more of that song in my mind. To my excuse: It´s some time ago, that I´ve heard it. But the fact that I remembered at least a little bit showes, that the song is worth it. Bye the way: The Dubliners sang it on their 25th years celebration album. There´s also a songbook containing the songs of that record.
Sorry for my insufficient memory, Harald ^^^