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BS: Racism in the UK media

Keith A of Hertford 24 Jul 12 - 09:53 AM
Richard Bridge 24 Jul 12 - 09:43 AM
GUEST,leeneia 24 Jul 12 - 09:14 AM
Keith A of Hertford 24 Jul 12 - 08:14 AM
Stu 24 Jul 12 - 07:49 AM
Keith A of Hertford 24 Jul 12 - 07:06 AM
Richard Bridge 24 Jul 12 - 04:59 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Racism in the UK media
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Jul 12 - 09:53 AM

not achieve best outcomes for the children.

The Rochdale abuse could have been stopped years earlier but for community sensitivities, and no doubt many other cases.

Did you read the Telegraph piece?
What have you seen before that you are dismissing?
What is the point you think it makes?

Please be explicit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Racism in the UK media
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jul 12 - 09:43 AM

Trigger finger at the expense of any given accused group will not achieve best outcomes for the children. Nor for the accused minority group.

Keith - we've probably all seen that before. It rather makes my point I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Racism in the UK media
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 24 Jul 12 - 09:14 AM

Interesting! Children are suffering, but you prefer to criticize the politico-social attitudes of those who expose the abusers.

Look, just admit to yourself "I can't handle this," and send some money to a good organization which is trying to help such children. Than get on with your life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Racism in the UK media
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Jul 12 - 08:14 AM

Please also read this Daily Telegraph piece.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9252003/Rochdale-grooming-trial-Mohammed-Shafiq-the-campaigner-who-stood-up-to-the-abusers.html#

(Link maker does not work on Telegraph. Sorry)


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Subject: RE: BS: Racism in the UK media
From: Stu
Date: 24 Jul 12 - 07:49 AM

Institutionalised racism in the UK?

Who'd of thought it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Racism in the UK media
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Jul 12 - 07:06 AM

I did post criticisms, but they came from the community in question.

When Straw put this story into the media, he acknowledged from the start that most child abusers were white, and so did I.

The story was about a particular kind of child abuse; that of men colluding in gangs to groom, abuse and pimp large numbers of minors.
(The above story is about lone paedophiles.)


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Subject: BS: Racism in the UK media
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jul 12 - 04:59 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/22/how-racism-takes-root?INTCMP=SRCH

In the above article Joseph Harker discusses the different ways in which the media treated two cases of systematic grooming of the young for sexual purposes. In one case the perpetrators were Muslim. In the other largely not.

I wonder if those who have posted here in criticism of Muslim communities and values would like to re-evaluate their contributions to this debate to date.


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