 sj |
||
|
||
Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing
|
|
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Teribus Date: 29 Jul 07 - 05:43 PM "akenaton - PM Date: 29 Jul 07 - 03:36 PM "I predict that this will move South of the line fairly quickly,"(Teribus) Another prediction gone wrong T.....Just like all your predictions on the course of the Iraq war!!" Not really Ake, but another excellent example of you jumping to the wrong conclusion and completely misunderstanding what was so clearly written. This thread originally appeared above the BS line, i.e. above as in "North" of the BS Line. My first post to this thread quite accurately predicted that it would be moved "South of the line fairly quickly" - True?? |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Shakey Date: 29 Jul 07 - 04:52 PM Oh and albert: Saudi Royal family has now been accused of funding extreme militant Sunni groups in Iraq which is bizarre to say the least Why is this bizarre, Saudi is fighting Iran in Iraq, didn't anybody tell you. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Albert Date: 29 Jul 07 - 03:44 PM Well thank you Shakey for clarifying your own position! It is a bit rich coming from a Labour Party member the leader of which was an important , if junior partner, in the invasion of Iraq. An invasion which started with "Shock And Awe" and has led to the deaths of some hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.The driving into exile of some 4 million others and the malnutrition of many of its children.The country has been plunged into barbarism . The invaders have destroyed cities,apartment blocks ,mosques and have tortured and killed with impunity.It is a racist war with the Iraqi people being called all kinds of abusive names by their "liberators". Writing as a member of Respect and as a former vice chair of my Labour Party branch I don't know how anyone could bear to be part of such a party whose leadership has played such a leading role in that invasion.Indeed ,Blair should be in the dock at the Hague to face war crimes charges if there was any justice in the world. Your party leader ,in one of his last acts as Prime Minister, abandoned the criminal investigation into the corrupt British arms for Saudi Arabia scandal which shamed the country both nationally and internationally and showed that there is one law for the powerful and another law for the rest of us. And incidentally, the Saudi Royal family has now been accused of funding extreme militant Sunni groups in Iraq which is bizarre to say the least! And of course the Saudi regime ,pals and cronies of Bush and Blair is renowned for its public executions in Chop Square by the sharp sword .Executions often of Asian men and women workers who are only in Saudi Arabia as economic migrants from the ravages of the free market in their own countries. Respect emerged out of the anti war and anti capitalist movement.I was there at its founding conference in 2004. It is opposed to the imperial war and the grab for oil and strategic power in that unfortunate country. Respect also supports the right of Palestine to be free. The destruction of the Lebanon last year was supported by Blair who allowed US military planes to land and refuel at airports in the UK .The UK also supplied military hardware to Israel.Blair of course also notoriously refused to support calls for a ceasefire in the Lebanon when that country was being bombed to bits by Israel. Respect ,part of the anti war movement did its part in mobilising public opinion against the indiscriminate attack on the people of Lebanon. Respect has also stood up to the racists here at home.Your party leadership has fuelled anti immigration hysteria and even put refugee children into prison.Here in Swansea ,a christian Iraqi family was threatened with deportation back to the hellhole that is Iraq.This is just one of numerous examples of the kind of thing that has been happening across the country. There may be things wrong with Respect [lack of size and strength for example ] but its members will not accept unwarranted and pathetic criticism from the war and privatisation party! best wishes Albert ps Mudcatters who want to find out more about Respect The Unity Coalition may want to go its website. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: akenaton Date: 29 Jul 07 - 03:36 PM "I predict that this will move South of the line fairly quickly,"(Teribus) Another prediction gone wrong T.....Just like all your predictions on the course of the Iraq war!! |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Shakey Date: 29 Jul 07 - 10:30 AM Well it's no surprise that ake,an anti- democrat, would support a party founded by other ant-democrats is it. The poor man is in mourning, his beloved commies lost the argument, a lifetime believing in a rotten cause, now he's looking for anyway he can to knock the west - pathetic. Albert, I didn't say you were a supporter of the BNP, I said you were TWO sides of the same coin. The extreme left is not so very different from the extreme right. I'm, a democratic socialist, member of the LP, and I'll oppose both sides of that coin. The respect party - what a laugh - do a search Albert on your own party's website, Isreal 700 articles, Darfur - sod all, Zimbabwe -sod all, Iran only articles defending them against the US and Europe; defending a country where they stone to death (you get buried up to the waist) adulterers and they hang gay men - lovely place. Now you may be a decent bloke, i don't know, but if you choose such friends do not expect respect from this quarter. Shakey, sometimes known as Crazyhorse - go figure. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST Date: 29 Jul 07 - 10:21 AM Hi, weelittledrummer, many thanks for the compliment. Oddly, 30 minutes after my above posting I was sorting out books, and Galloway's own 'I'm Not The Only One' came to the top. Surprised it has not been referred to in the discussion, it offers ample evidence usable by both sides of the exchange. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: goatfell Date: 29 Jul 07 - 09:59 AM no because they can't face the truth |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Big Al Whittle Date: 29 Jul 07 - 07:05 AM great to hear from you Ewan - loved your book about Hamish Imlach! |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar Date: 29 Jul 07 - 07:01 AM I would like to congratulate Mudcat Cafe for allowing this discussion to occur. It has been interesting to read it. I'll say no more than that, for fear of attracting insults for having the cheek to offer an opinion. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Big Al Whittle Date: 29 Jul 07 - 06:41 AM I just hope he is as nice as his supporters seem to be - somehow, I doubt it. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,guest sunny Date: 29 Jul 07 - 04:20 AM GG is a voice for the voiceless. Thank you George for standing for truth !! |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: ard mhacha Date: 28 Jul 07 - 04:25 PM Yes Ake even some of Bush`s Republican party have at last seen how futile all of this slaughter has been, in their pursuit of oil they have murdered the innocent in their thousands, it couldn`t be stated often enough. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: akenaton Date: 28 Jul 07 - 04:15 PM albert Well done!! A little reason soon puts paid to those who dispense blind hatred towards anyone who questions the actions of the warmongers I always considered Teribus and Shakey to be the same person...their posts are remarkably similar and there are very few left who hold their opinions on the war....Ake |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,albert Date: 28 Jul 07 - 06:42 AM Oh sorry Teribus I have only just read your posting about Galloway! First about Glasgow, Yes the Glasgow Labour Party is a hard school for budding Labour Party politicos. But there is another Glasgow tradition which may have influenced Galloway...the great anti war tradition in the horror of the first World War and the agitation against the war led by John McLean.And of course there was the strikes and sit ins of the 1970s in Glasgow and on the Clyde. To get a musical taste of the revolutionary period in the Great War Mudcatters should listen to Alistair Huletts wonderful CD "Red Clydeside"....Perhaps GG has been a listener! As for GG having no substance then his work for the anti war movement,his battles inside the Labour Party on Iraq and his subsequent ejection from the party,his humiliation of the US senate committee,his win in East London and his victory over the Telegraph would tend to contradict your view...but there again as a right winger you would take that view wouldnt you? I mean if Galloway was a man of no substance he could have stayed in the Labour Party and have had a safe and quiet political life.How much better,if a little uncomfortable for us at times for GG to take the anti war and socialist path!! Cheers George! Albert |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,albert Date: 28 Jul 07 - 06:29 AM To Shakey All those deposits lost?...mmmm ....I seem to remember that Galloway overturned a Labour majority of 15000 in Bow and Bethnal Green at the last election.Not a bad result for him and Respect . Then you have Michael Lavalette winning an important council seat in Preston and Ray Holmes winning a council seat in Bolsover... Shakey ,I certainly do not intend to waste my time on you as from your posting you seem to be a sort of caricture of a left basher and are probably beyong help. However,I will challenge these blatant untruths when I see them posted. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Teribus Date: 28 Jul 07 - 05:52 AM Respect dear Albert stands for what Gorgeous George has represented all his political life - A massive Con, so obvious that it could only ever be swallowed by the completely gullible (And George P's Sheep of course). The man is a two faced, bullying, shallow opportunist. Take a look at where he came from within the Labour Party - Glasgow, overall, home of the most corrupt Labour Party organisation in the United Kingdom. The man is a political "magpie" - loads of chatter - absolutely no substance. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Shakey Date: 27 Jul 07 - 05:15 PM Don't waste your time with me Albert, you'd be better off looking for all of those deposits you've lost. respect bro |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,albert Date: 27 Jul 07 - 04:33 PM Yes I am happy and proud to be a member of Respect. Shakey you sound like someone who has read far too much of the right wing press for your own good.Dont believe all you have read in those squalid rags or indeed the stuff written by people like Nick Cohen and other pro war erstwhile leftwingers who have now been left stranded on the wilder shores of neoconservatism. There are some in this country who believe that all muslims are terrorists or potential terrorists.What a horrible and scandalous piece of Islamophobia .And believe it or not those you call the "clerical fascists "[a dangerous bit of terminology in itself because there are real fascists out there ] do not support Respect ;indeed Galloway has been assaulted by jihadi supporters. You have trailed another red herring in inferring that Respect does not support Gay Rights.Of course we do! As for equating Respect with the BNP...here you have really let your rabid hatred obscure any judgement you have. The BNP stand for race hatred,the smashing of working class organisations and the most reactionary forms of right wing politics. Respect members are totally opposed to these new nazis.Indeed a load of Respect members,along with others were leafletting against a BNP council candidate in Swansea only last week.I was there with my comrades so I dont take kindly to being likened to a fascist by you. Respect was formed because Labour has moved to become the most right wing social democratic party in Europe.Indeed, it has embraced the free market and neo conservatism with a fervour I would have thought impossible 15 years ago. Labour is the party of war and has also led an attack on public services. Respect was formed three years ago to counter this gallop to the right. Respect stands for Respect Equality Socialism Peace Environmentalism Community Trade unionism It is part of the world wide anti war movement which opposed the invasion of Iraq and the attack last year on the Lebanon. Plenty to do then!! Albert |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Shakey Date: 27 Jul 07 - 01:24 PM So, Albert is a member of Respect. Which side do you come from Albert, the totalitarian left or the clerical fascists, wrt funding you're either a liar or a fool. What's Respects policy on gays Albert, let's hazard a guess, the biggest donator is an islamist so maybe, well maybe you'd rather not talk about it. Respect, BNP two sides of the same coin. Mr Happy, if GG wants to give interviews to soft-porn mags that's his business isn't it. Look, I understand peoples opposition to the war in Iraq but for goodness sake just because someone agrees with you on that point do not make the mistake in thinking that they believe in other things that you may hold dear. Respect is tied to MAB which in turn is affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood; these are lunatic people who glorify death and violence. Of course they'll blame most things on Isreal, but the last thing these people want is a solution in Palestine, ask yourselves who gains with the mess there it's neither, Isreal nor the locals is it. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,ifor Date: 27 Jul 07 - 12:48 PM Ah, but we all know Vin Garbut' homage to Irish soldiers who served in the British army in WW2 "Howard Green" which was my father's wartime regiment! [The Green Howards ]. ifor |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Big Al Whittle Date: 27 Jul 07 - 12:19 PM Scuse my ignorance, I thought there had always been Irishmen in the Brit army. Irish guards, Royal Irish Rifles... that sort of thing. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Mr Happy Date: 27 Jul 07 - 11:50 AM GUEST,crazyhorse, I followed your link to the Independent which mentions that GG allegedly said what you posted. Having never heard of GQ Magazine, I took a shufty at their page. http://www.gq- magazine.co.uk/?zed Apparently its a soft porn rag for 'Gentlemen?' Unfortunately, neither the Independent nor GQ name the interviewer so causing a difficulty to further research this matter. Since GG has been smeared by the press previously, notably the Telegraph, we've no way of verifying wether his statement has been taken out of context. Here's the passage from the Independent: In an interview with GQ magazine, the reporter asked him: "Would the assassination of, say, Tony Blair by a suicide bomber - if there were no other casualties - be justified as revenge for the war on Iraq?" Mr Galloway replied: "Yes, it would be morally justified. I am not calling for it - but if it happened it would be of a wholly different moral order to the events of 7/7. It would be entirely logical and explicable. And morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq - as Blair did." *********************** Read carefully, plenty of opportunity there to twist his words to mean something different to his intention |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: ard mhacha Date: 27 Jul 07 - 05:32 AM Irish soldiers in Brit regiments?, the way things are going with the Brit Army you will need to press gang the yobs. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Albert Date: 27 Jul 07 - 04:02 AM Poor George Galloway.. is now to be condemned because an unnamed source who is said to be a supporter of GG has apparently written on an unnamed blog some horrible remarks . Can't you do better than that?? Name that source and let us take a good look at it! albert ps As a member of Respect I can assure Mudcat readers that its funding comes from the limited pockets of its members. We dont get,and wouldnt want, donations from multi millionaire pornographers or fat cat city businessmen seeking a gong . |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,crazyhorse Date: 26 Jul 07 - 05:11 PM GG is a disgrace to humanity. As I said above, judge him by the company he keeps. One of his biggest supporters, a blog which he references from his site, recently (last week) said: Where is an Iraqi insurgent when you need him? Where's three or four suicide bombers? I don't mean to glorify terrorism, I simply think the Iraqis should kill these pricks He was talking about Irish soldiers. A "Brit" |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: ard mhacha Date: 26 Jul 07 - 05:03 PM Decent people denounce ALL bombers, not forgetting those brave men in their flying machines who murder the innocent in countless numbers, remember no one was counting the Iraqi civilian dead. Their is no doubt that this murderous invasion of Iraq has been a disaster for the world, and Galloway is letting those Brit poodles know that. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,crazyhorse Date: 26 Jul 07 - 04:53 PM I've read plenty thank you, from all sorts of sources. The Independent The Respect MP George Galloway has said it would be morally justified for a suicide bomber to murder Tony Blair. Decent people denounce all suicide bombers Ask him where the UN funds, destined for the iraqi people went? Examine who funds the Respect party |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,albert Date: 26 Jul 07 - 04:27 PM To Guest I think your problem is you have read too much of the gutter press about Galloway.The stuff they pring tends to rot the brain cells.Every single Murdoch paper across the globe supported the war and of course they all{in Britain ] attack Galloway along with Conrad Black's Telegraph!! albert |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST Date: 26 Jul 07 - 02:25 PM Guest rainy day man, get a life, I've lived 20 years on the continent, I have used two names (ake knows), I go back just a couple of years and post very infrequently, you don't know me from adam, so you're a liar as well as a fantasist. Guest albert, I suggest you read before you write, Galloway's antics are well known. Big Phil, You're not big on logic are you, read your own post. Dullards
Thanks. -Joe Offer, Forum Moderator- |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Mr Happy Date: 26 Jul 07 - 12:09 PM & more: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HID9Z5DF-AY&mode=related&search= |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Mr Happy Date: 26 Jul 07 - 10:52 AM Crazyhorse et al, I posted links above to GG's latest skirmishes. To gain any credence here of your views & list of allegations, I suggest you post some evidence to support them. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Rainy day man Date: 26 Jul 07 - 06:22 AM Crazyhorse this must be your umpteenth alias, you go back a long way talking crap on a regular basis, Ake he tell you about working in Europe, don`t believe a word . I know this man. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Big Phil Date: 26 Jul 07 - 06:04 AM I do not think GG has ever been convicted in any court on any charges. So untill proven guilty, we should perhaps believe in what he says, more so than a PM who definately twisted the truth to take us in to an unwinnable war, just to try to make a name for himself. Well Bliar certainly has made a name for himself, but not the one he wanted..... |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,albert Date: 26 Jul 07 - 04:58 AM Crazyhorse, I think you are wrong on most counts here 1 GG did not ,and has not supported the murder of the Prime Minister.Don't believe everything the yellow press says about him and be warned he has never lost a libel case! 2 He has never taken money from Saddam. Are you confusing him with a certain Mrs Thatcher which extended to Saddam over a billion in war credits.He got the British made arms but never paid for them.The arms companies were then paid by the poor long suffering British taxpayer. 3 He has not allied himself with clerical fascists .In fact he has been physically assaulted by them [and incidentally by orange order thugs .However,GG does not subscribe to the belief being pushed by the yellow press that all muslims are fascists,terrorists oreven fundamentalist. 4 GG ,of course was a Labour Party member for some 30 years and would have looked back to democratic socialists like Nye Bevan for inspiration.If he admired Stalin it would have been because his Red Army tore the guts out of the Nazi War machine to paraphrase Winston Churchill. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,crazyhorse Date: 26 Jul 07 - 02:53 AM George Galloway has put his career on the line more times than I can remember.
You can probably supply more examples ake, it's your world. You don't have to worry about the state of the labour party, it's a democratic organisation, being a failed revolutionary (Freedom for Tooting), you will never understand it. I understand it's difficult when what you've believed in all your life is shown to be corrupt and is defeated; here's some advice, Join the greens and get back to nature or get a hobby. Politics is obviously not your strong point is it dear boy. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,albert Date: 26 Jul 07 - 01:53 AM Bob Dylan also said a lot about the Masters of War .He loathed them and so does GG. aS FOR gg being a cabaret act it must be quite a popular turn because he won a seat in that bastion of middle class lifestyle we know East London. No GG won there because he was seen as a bonny anti war opponent of thosewarmonger Bush and Blair. albert |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: akenaton Date: 25 Jul 07 - 07:16 PM Nicely put Al.....But sometimes when you see liars doing what liars do best you just need someone to tell them what they are,and George certainly tells them. The game is heavily weighted in favour of the powerful and it take enormous self-belief to stand ones ground. George Galloway has put his career on the line more times than I can remember. He's a rebel and always will be while the Labour Party has grown fat and lasy, slimy and slippery. The creatures who representus in Westminster have absolutely nothing in common with the heros who founded the Labour Party. George Galloway does ....Ake |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: Big Al Whittle Date: 25 Jul 07 - 06:53 PM I suspect its a sensual thing. When Galloway starts talking - its like a stranger of the wrong sex putting their hand on my knee in a darkened cinema. If you respond to someone, fair enough. I don't like these people who pretend that to be left of the tories requires some huge volte face - eschewing the American alliance, tax breaks for glue sniffers and feminist comedians, and the dismantling of the armed forces. But they've been too bloody successful at keeping the tories in power in the past. God knows, I understand those who see these people as the great white hope. I was brought up by Quakers, was taken to speeches by Philip Noel Baker when I was a kid, and we took Peace News. Neither of us are idiots. Just different things float our boat. I've lived pretty much as low as this society allows an intelligent person without a heroin problem. Since my wife got disabled I subsisted for most of my working life on half an income, and anything else I could scrape together. New Labour may seem as bad as the tories to you, but its not - if you're on the bottom rung of society. You have to live that to understand that. Just like when I say I'm not keen on the Cecil Sharp version of folk music, with its ghastly middle class agenda. I've just seen too much talent rejected and too much mediocrity applauded. I think Galloway is a cabaret act for middle class lefties. You like him, I don't. Neither of us are idiots - we just don't agree. As that great interpreter of the tradition Bob Dylan said, you're right fro your side and I'm right from mine..... |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,crazyhorse Date: 25 Jul 07 - 05:23 PM My my, for a man who doesn't believe in elections you've got an awful lot to say about them. He went when he chose and the man who's taken over isn't really that different you know. I used to think you were about 16 and came on here to avoid homework, I've since learned that you are, in fact, getting on a bit - nothing wrong with that, I myself still remember the Woodentops (especially spotty dog) with affection - however the total destruction of the argument you and your ilk put forward seems to have addled your brain. You can continue with the adolescent anti-establishment nonsense all you like, real people will make the real decisions for you. Sleep tight. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: akenaton Date: 25 Jul 07 - 05:14 PM "Blair went when he wanted to," For Christ sake!! he had to be dragged from office. he wanted to "serve" a full third term. He still clung to the forlorn hope that something would "turn up" in Iraq to stop the bloodbath becoming his legacy. Some Hopes!! the British public, with the exception of a couple of pea-brains on Mudcat, now see Blair and his cowardly supporters as the hypocritical scum that they really are Blairs real "legacy" is to be seen as the man who initialised the break-up of the UK. Anti-Blair sentiment in Scotland has led to the first Scottish Nationalist administration, and further SNP support in the next General Election will see Labour lose their Scottish "heartland".....Well done Mr Blair.......Ake |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,crazyhorse Date: 25 Jul 07 - 04:50 PM Forget me bleeder monika again. Still you know who it was. I must register again, on the other hand I have a real life as well. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST Date: 25 Jul 07 - 04:49 PM ake, you're getting desperate. Blair went when he wanted to, he served ten years as HM first minister, GG is likely to serve 10 years in HMP. Don't bring that other lunatic FC into the pot, he'll soon be gone and it'll be all change in Havana (shame it's quaint at moment, piss poor, corrupt, but quaint) |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Crazyhorse Date: 25 Jul 07 - 04:44 PM I confess, It was I. ifor, have you any idea who runs STW - check it out. They are not interested in Iraq. How were the British troops given illegal orders - proof please. Yes there was a rally with alot of people I wasn't there nor where 90% of the population - do the math, as they say across the pond, and as I've already pointed out, when the people had a chance to judge him they voted him back in power - learn to live with it. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: akenaton Date: 25 Jul 07 - 04:43 PM I read quite well, and from what I have read, I have formed the purely selfish view that Islamic Fundamentalism is much more of a danger to us than Saddam ever was. So why did we assist the fundamentalists by making war on Iraq? George was right all along, despite being villified by the so called Labour Party they chose to follow Blair because they thought he would make and keep them electible, but in the end they had to push him "over the side" when the public became sickened. George....like Fidel, has out-lasted many Presidents....and out- lasting President Blair must be the most satisfying of all...Ake |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Ifor Date: 25 Jul 07 - 04:38 PM "GG is a dangerous bastard" says anon Guest. Yes ,I suppose there is a lot of truth in that.I would add the word brave too. Remember he was thrown out of the Labour Part for opposing the war in the most outspoken way and for calling on British troops to disobey illegal orders which in the light of Abu Ghraib,the beating to death in British military captivity of the Basra receptionist and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians in the mess that is Iraq was a timely reminder. He has been a leading figure in the Stop The War Coalition which mobilised over a million to try to block the invasion and is a constant reminder that Blair dragged this country into war against the wishes of its citizens. GG also helped form the anti war Respect Coalition and overturned a massive Labour majority to win his seat.This was the first time in decades that Labour has been beaten by an explicitly left wing opponent. Yes GG is a threat to New Labour ,a standing reproach to those gutless cowards who led this country to war and who are now trying to cover their pro war tracks. As GG said "they were like a shiver in search of a spine to run up." ifor |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Crazyhorse Date: 25 Jul 07 - 04:26 PM Look, I realise the article has no pictures but even you can get through a couple of pages of text. Try reading it. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: akenaton Date: 25 Jul 07 - 04:24 PM "But the taint of collusion and corruption extends much further than his pathetic figure, and one day, slowly but surely, we shall find out the whole disgusting thing." Talking about the Blair govt again "Crazy"?? |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Crazyhorse (Shakey is soo last year darling) Date: 25 Jul 07 - 04:19 PM I'm not saying you're a fascist, just a supporter of totalitarian ideas. Blair won three elections for the Labour party, one after Iraq. The "hundreds of thousands" of lives lost have been mostly muslims by the hand of muslims. They exploded a bomb in a crowd of football fans today. There will be no new caliphate, enough people are awake even if you're not. Iran will fall and the murderous homophobic, mysogonist clerics will run into the caves where they belong. This man understands Just look at the gang that strove to prevent the United Nations from enforcing its library of resolutions on Saddam Hussein. Where are they now? Gerhard Schroeder, ex-chancellor of Germany, has gone straight to work for a Russian oil-and-gas consortium. Vladimir Putin, master of such consortia and their manipulation, is undisguised in his thirst to re-establish a one-party state. Jacques Chirac, who only avoided prosecution for corruption by getting himself immunized by re-election (and who had Saddam's sons as his personal guests while in office, and built Saddam Hussein a nuclear reactor while knowing what he wanted it for), is now undergoing some unpleasant interviews with the Paris police. So is his cynical understudy Dominique de Villepin, once the glamour-boy of the "European" school of diplomacy without force. What a crew! Galloway is the most sordid of this group because he managed to be a pimp for, as well as a prostitute of, one of the foulest dictatorships of modern times. But the taint of collusion and corruption extends much further than his pathetic figure, and one day, slowly but surely, we shall find out the whole disgusting thing. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: akenaton Date: 25 Jul 07 - 04:05 PM I suppose Mr Blair was part of the "real left" as well. You "real lefties" seem to have got your directions very wrong. More right-wing than Thatcher! Mr Cameron (Conservative) ...and "Heir to Blair" ! You're not still trying to justify the war Shakey? there's only you and Teribus left now that Blair and his cabinet have "jumped ship" Don't try to say that I support I.F. Teribus will tell you I have been "ranting on about it" for years. Someday you are going to have to accept that the attack on Iraq was the most stupid and dangerous action in half a century. I say hundreds of thousands of lives lost for "fuck all", if you disagree with my opinion or my language please tell me why we are there, losing young lives daily. What are we achieving? other than assisting in the formation of a radical Islamic Republic. |
|
Subject: RE: Did George Galloway Get A Fair Hearing From: GUEST,Crazyhorse Date: 25 Jul 07 - 03:38 PM The loony left would have us support the "freedom fighters" I nicked this from David Thompson "During the campus convulsions of the late 1960s, when rebellion against any authority was considered obedience to every virtue, the film 'To Die in Madrid', a documentary about the Spanish Civil War, was shown at a small liberal arts college famous for, and vain about, its dedication to all things progressive. When the film's narrator intoned, 'The rebels advanced on Madrid,' the students, who adored rebels and were innocent of information, cheered. Antioch College in Yellow Springs, Ohio, had been so busy turning undergraduates into vessels of liberalism and apostles of social improvement that it had not found time for the tiresome task of teaching them tedious facts, such as that the rebels in Spain were Franco's fascists…" Us in the real world and part of the real Left know better |
| Share Thread: |
