Lyr Req: songs from 'The Tale of Ale'

Subject: RE: Project: Lyrics from 'The Tale of Ale'
From: banjomad (inactive)
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 09:41 PM

Hollowfox, contact Professor Vic Gammon, Leeds University, Leeds West Yorkshire, England

Subject: RE: Project: Lyrics from 'The Tale of Ale'
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 09:00 PM

No lyrics on the CD - just background information about the tracks. There was a Mudcat thread a few weeks back about "The Tunnyng Of Elynour Rummyng" with web link to a ful set of words. It's too late to look it up before I go to sleep....
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: Project: Lyrics from 'The Tale of Ale'
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 07:02 PM

I can but agree with Dick - I've got the CD and managed to transcribe a few songs, but there were no lyrics with the CD and it's quite hard work. Can't help with the project just now, I'm afraid, as my PC refuses to open my database programme, but will gladly share what I've got later on. Meanwhile, we had another thread on this - or on individual songs, perhaps - that might provide a start.

Subject: RE: Project: Lyrics from 'The Tale of Ale'
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 06:25 PM

CAMSCO carries the CD--highly recommended. I'm not home at the moment, but when I get there I'll see if lyrics are included.

BTW,what the hell do you mean "only a matter of transcribing the songs"?

Subject: RE: Project: Lyrics from 'The Tale of Ale'
From: Hollowfox
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 04:37 PM

I only have the casette, and even though I'm a cheapskate, I'd pay good money for lyrics and notes. I'd even buy the cd if it came with them! Does anyone have an address of any kind for Professor Gammon? Even if this project doesn't get off the ground, there's a question I'd like to ask him.

Subject: RE: Project: Lyrics from 'The Tale of Ale'
From: Schantieman
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 01:15 PM

I've got a real LP of it - I think it's got the words. Let m know if you want it.

Steve

Subject: RE: Project: Lyrics from 'The Tale of Ale'
From: banjomad (inactive)
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 02:48 PM

Contact Prof Vic Gammon at Leeds University.
He's the man who did it

Subject: RE: Project: Lyrics from 'The Tale of Ale'
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 10:56 AM

I take it that you do have a copy of the Cassette ? We've got one - if you want a copy let me know.

Surely then it's only a matter of transcribing the songs.

Subject: RE: Project: Lyrics from 'The Tale of Ale'
From: Naemanson
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 10:53 AM

I have The Tale Of Ale on CD and I think it came with liner notes and lyrics. I'll have to check when I get home.

Subject: Lyr Add: O Good Ale! thou art my darling
From: Bruce O.
Date: 23 Apr 99 - 04:13 PM

"Good Ale for my money" is by Laurence Price, and is in the Price file on my website (with tune)
"London's Ordinary" is a broadside expansion of a song in Haywood's 'The Rape of Lucrece'
"Allan a Mault", 16th century song, is in the Scarce Songs 1 file on my websites, as are "Four Drunken Maidens" and "Watkins Ale", and some others bacchanalian.
"John Appleby" (a text of 1828), preceeded by Martin Parker's ballad on which it was based are in the Scarce Songs 2 file on my website.
The texts from Ravenscrofts books (and Lant manuscript) are on the SCA Minstrel website, and the older ones are mostly in R. H. Robbins 'Secular Lyrics' or Chambers and Sidgwick's 'Early English Lyrics'.
The 17th century broadside versions of the John Barleycorn ballads and Mas. Mault was a Gentleman are listed in the broadside ballad index on my website, as are "Joan's Ale is new", "Nick and Froth", "Jack Hadland's Lamentation", "The leather Bottle" (in DT), "Wade's Reformation", "I owe my hostess money", etc.

If you let in songs about gin, you open to door for those on Sack, ("Muld-sack", broadside) Port, Sherry, Canary, Muscadine, and Whisky.

There are many drinking songs in Pills to Purge Melancholy, of which you have a few in your list. Some books of drinking songs are:
An Antidote Against Melancholy, 1749
Bucks Bottle Companion, The, London, 1775.
Bacchus and Venus; Or, The Harmony of Love and Wine, London, n.d. [c 1770]
Paddy Whack's Bottle Companion, 1791.

Also, search DT for 'beer' and 'ale'.

[From 'The Banquet of Thalia', a songbook without music, p. 84, York, [1792]

O GOOD ALE THOU ART MY DARLING

The Landlord he looks very big
With his high-cock'd hat and powdered wig;
Methinks he looks both fair and fat,
But he may thank YOU and I for that
Chorus
For, O good Ale! thou art my darling,
Thou art my comfort night and morning.

The brewer brew'd thee in his pan,
And the tapster draws thee in his can;
So I with them will play my part,
And lodge with thee next unto my heart

And if my wife should thee dispise,
By Jove I'll beat out both her eyes!
But if she loves ME as I love THEE,
A happy couple we should be.

Thou oft hath made my friends my foes,
And often made me pawn my clothes;
And since thou art so near my nose,
Come up, my friend -- and down it goes
Chorus
For, O good Ale! thou art my darling,
Thou art my comfort night and morning.

[The Copper family sings this so you can swipe the tune.]

Subject: Project: Lyrics from 'The Tale of Ale'
From: rob d
Date: 23 Apr 99 - 01:59 PM

Well, the Kipper Family project is winding down. Nothing new for about a week, so I'm thinking of taking a cut. Do people out there want the final result, shall I post it all here, email it to them, et cetera?
Anyway, this is my other pet project:

The finest album of beer songs ever made is/was

        The Tale Of Ale -- The Story of the Englishman and his Beer

Ummm, Free Reed I think.

Sadly, it was supposed to come with a lyric sheet but did not, and I gave up looking a long time ago (anybody have one, Let me Know!)

Anyway, here's a list of the songs on the album. '*' is one that I do have lyrics to, "^" is one that I would desperately like to find lyrics to. Anybody??? Oh, and some of the cuts are narrative, not song (I'll mark those with a '!'. This is wonderful stuff, and I would dearly love to put together a lyric sheet with all of these on it. I did see a book in a library once (can't remember where, 41YO, you see) that was a collection of many only ale and beer songs, which is where I picked up a few of these. Anybody know of a book like that?

"The Tale Of Ale : The Story of the Englishman and his Beer"

*Bring Us In Good Ale
!Andrew Boorde on ale
^Come Drink To Me
*Jolly Good Ale And Old
!"He That Buys Land"
The Merry Fellows
*Soldiers Three
Tapster, Drinker
*!The Tunnyng Of Elynour Rummyng
A Knotte Of Good Fellows
!Andrew Boorde on beer
^London's Ordinary
!Epitaph
^Of Honest Malt Liquor
The Malt's Come Down
!Stubbes on drunkenness
Good Ale For My Money
The Excise Ballad
!The Porter scene from Macbeth
Peas, Beans, Oats, and the Barley
*The Pleasant Ballad Of John Barleycorn
Now Harvest Is Over
The British Toper

*Nottingham Ale
!Bickerdyke on temperence
^O Ale Ab Alendo
John Barleycorn
*Ye Mar'ners All
Epitaph/ Poor Tom Is Dead And Gone
^There's Comfort In A Drop Of Gin
!The London gin distillery
*Don't Go Out Tonight Dear Father
!The Drunkard's Looking Glass
Ale, Ale, Glorious Ale
I Like A Drop Of Good Beer
The Carter's Health
Hey John Barleycorn
Here's A Health To The Mistress
!Meux's porter vat
^A Pot Of Porter Oh
I've Been To France / Here's A Health Unto Our Master
*The Man That Waters The Worker's Beer
*October Brew
^John Appleby
!Epitaph
*Charley Mopps
This, Is Our Mistress' Health
The British Toper (instrumental)
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*Bring Us In Good Ale
!Andrew Boorde on ale
^Come Drink To Me (a round, and I can only get the first verse wholly, the rest are just scraps)
     -  Come Drink To Me and I will drink to thee
        Come drink and then shall we full well agree
     -  I have loved the jolly tankard for....????
     -  He that loves not the tankard is no honest man....???
     -  Pass the can....?????

*Jolly Good Ale And Old (Back and Side Go Bare)
!"He That Buys Land"
The Merry Fellows
        He that will not merry merry be in spite of all his ???
        ...
        Let him be merry, merry merry there
        While we're all merry merry here
        For who can know where we shall go
        To be merry another year, brave boys
        To be merry another year
*Soldiers Three
        We be soldiers three, pardon-em-moi (and more frenchy stuff)
Tapster, Drinker
        Tapster, Drinker, ??? another ale anon
        God send us good ale...
!The Tunnyng Of Elynour Rummyng
A Knotte Of Good Fellows
        Give us more ale and more beer
        Give us more ale and more beer
        And if the old (whore?) would wipe ??? the score
        For money she must go looking
!Andrew Boorde on beer
^London's Ordinary
        (a wonderful long list of the Inns of London)
!Epitaph
^Of Honest Malt Liquor
        Of Honest Malt Liquor let English boys sing
        A pox on French claret, we'll drink no such thing
The Malt's Come Down
        There's never a maid in all this town
        That never she knows that malt's come down
        Malt's come down, malt's come down
        From an old Angel to a French Crown (anybody know what an Angel is?)
!Stubbes on drunkenness
Good Ale For My Money
        Be merry my friends and list a while
        Unto a merry jest
        It may produce a from you smile
        When you hear it expressed
        ...
        I can't go home, I won't go home
        It's ????
        I'll tarry all night til morning light
        Go home in the morning early
The Excise Ballad
        Oh fie upon this excise, 'tis pity it ever was paid
        It makes good liquor to rise and pulls down many a trade

!The Porter scene from Macbeth
Peas, Beans, Oats, and the Barley
        Here's to the man who ploughs at the land
        Where the Peas, Beans, Oats, and the Barley stand

*The Pleasant Ballad Of John Barleycorn (all 34 verses!)
*Now Harvest Is Over
      Now harvest is over and summer is past
      Here's all in a full glass
      For she is a good woman and provides us good cheer
      Here's a health to our mistress, and bring us more beer
The British Toper (instrumental)

*Nottingham Ale
!Bickerdyke on temperance
^O Ale Ab Alendo (another round, this one I have all except last, which I am not quite sure about)
     -  O Ale Ab Alendo thou liquor of life
        Would that I had a mouth as big as a whale
     -  But mine is too little to sum the least tittle
        That belongs to the praise of a pot of good ale
     -  But though I will never drink all that I wish
        Yet still I'll endeavor to drink like a fish

John Barleycorn
*Ye Mar'ners All
        Ye Mar'ners All that do pass by
        Pull in and drink if you are dry
        Pull in and drink and think nought amiss
        And pop your nose in a jug of this
Epitaph/ Poor Tom Is Dead And Gone
^There's Comfort In A Drop Of Gin
        While some roar out the ????
        And others court sweet lovely Nan
        For all who ???? to cry cry or grin
        There's Comfort In A Drop Of Gin
!The London gin distillery
*Don't Go Out Tonight Dear Father
        Don't Go Out Tonight Dear Father
        Think oh think how sad we'll be
        When the angels come to take her
        Papa won't be there to see
!The Drunkard's Looking Glass
Ale, Ale, Glorious Ale
        Ale, Ale, Glorious Ale
        Served up in pewter it tells its own tale
        Some folks likes radishes, some ???? kale?
        But give I boiled parsnips, and a great dish of taters
        And a lump of fatty bacon, and a pint of good ale
I Like A Drop Of Good Beer
        I Like A Drop Of Good Beer
        I Like A Drop Of Good Beer
        And damn his eyes that ever tries
        To rob a poor man of his beer
The Carter's Health
Hey John Barleycorn
        Hey John Barleycorn, ho John Barleycorn
        Old and young his praise is sung, John Barleycorn
Here's A Health To The Mistress
        Here's A Health Unto The Mistress
        The fairest of twenty
        Oh is she so, is she so, is she so
        Is your glass full or is your glass empty
        Come let us know, let us know, let us know,
!Meux's porter vat
A Pot Of Porter Oh
        When to old England I came down
        Fa la la, fa la la la la
        What joy to see the tankard foam
        Fa la la, fa la la la la
I've Been To France / Here's A Health Unto Our Master
*The Man That Waters The Worker's Beer
*October Brew (Blann's, in the Digitrad)
^John Appleby
        John Appleby was an old ???
        He lived at the sign of the kettle
        His wife ???
        ...
        John to the alehouse would go
        Joan to the gin shop she ran
        Joan would get drunk with the woman
        And John would get drunk with the men
!Epitaph
*Charley Mopps
        A long time ago, way back in history
        When all there was to drink was nothin' but cups of tea
        Along came a man by the name of Charley Mopps
        And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops
This, Is Our Mistress' Health
The British Toper (instrumental)