Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Steve Gardham Date: 14 Jun 15 - 04:05 PM Line 3 should read 'Fatty passed to Skinny, Skinny passed it back' |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Steve Gardham Date: 14 Jun 15 - 03:31 PM Here's a slightly longer version of what Louise posted 21 April 06. My old man's a dustman, he lives in a council flat He took me round the corner, to watch a football match Fatty passed to Skinny, Skinny and Skinny passed it back, Fatty took a rotten shot and knocked the goalie flat. Singing where was the goalie when the ball was in the net, Halfway round the goalpost with his trousers round his neck. They laid him on a stretcher, they laid him on a bed, They rubbed his belly with a lump of jelly and this is what he said: Rule Britannia, two monkeys up a tree, (Rule Brit tune) One fell down and paralysed his.... (Back to My old man tune) Willy was a bulldog sitting in the grass Up came a bumblebee and stung him on his.... Ask no questions, tell no lies I saw a copper buttoning up his.... Flies are a nuisance, fleas are worse, That is the end of my silly little verse. Hull, Yorkshire, late 50s? |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: GUEST,Lee (UK) Date: 14 Jun 15 - 01:09 PM The East Sussex version went like this My Old Man's a dustman He fought at battle of Mons Killed a thousand Germans with only 15 bombs One went here One went there One went round the corner My Old Soul with a bullet up his hole Was cryin' out for water Water, water, water, water Water a penny a glass If you don't want our water You can stick it up your arse |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: GUEST,He fought in the battle of mons Date: 09 Jun 12 - 11:16 AM My recollection of this song goes like this.... My old mans a dustman He fought in the battle of mons He killed 10,000 germans With only 18 bombs One fell here, one fell there One fell round the corner One poor chap with a bullet in his hat Was crying out for water Water, water, water Water came at last I don't want your water So stick it up your.... Ask old man to tea With all his family, If you don't come I'll tickle your bum With a lump of celery Bernie was a bulldog He swallowed a blade of grass One grew out of his earole The other grew out of his arse That's how I remember it anyway.. Can anyone add to that? |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: GUEST Date: 27 Aug 10 - 05:20 PM Thank you Rafflesbear, he has been both an inspiration and a good friend, he will be sadly missed. This song was played at his service today. Lets not forget all his other achievements, 7 singles in the top 10 plus all of his TV scripts. He also gave up much of his time to help inspire so many younger people achieve their talents. He will live on in his work. |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Rafflesbear Date: 26 Aug 10 - 05:21 AM Well if no-one else is, I am sorry to hear of his passing |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Howard Jones Date: 26 Aug 10 - 04:44 AM A former acquaintance used to sing the words of a Guinness bottle label to Beethoven's "Ode to Joy". |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Sailor Ron Date: 26 Aug 10 - 04:39 AM I once, in my former seafaring life, heard "My old man's a fireman with the Elder Dempster line" |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Aug 10 - 04:29 AM Indeed, Micca. BUT a general caveat if I may. Many songs, folk or otherwise, CAN be sung to the tunes of others, as so many are in 'common' or 'ballad' metre. So, to take one familiar example, 'Willie o' Winsbury' is now always sung to the tune of some other ballad [I forget offhand which] because some group [I forget offhand who] recorded it that way ~~ whether or not deliberately or mistakenly is, I believe, still a matter of dispute or conjecture. And indeed pretty well any ballad CAN be sung to any ballad tune. But there is no denying that certain tunes belong in popular [indeed, universal] conception to certain songs [which is not to deny that several tunes like 'Villikins' or 'John Brown's Body' carry several, or even many, songs; which is a separate question, I should say]. And once we begin to confuse or play about with them, chaos or worse can possibly ensue. I don't want to be a party-pooper or spoil anyone's innocent fun; but I don't think it wise that this game should be played to excess. I would point out that I was not confusing the tune of my 'pheasant-plucker' rhyme with any other [it was simply a recitation and didn't have a tune], but simply remarking what tune came to my mind when I recited it to myself. ~Michael~ |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Micca Date: 26 Aug 10 - 02:56 AM MtheGM, while on the "different tunes" subject, "My old mans a Dustman" fits the "British Grenadiers" tune very well |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Aug 10 - 01:47 AM ... also, adverting to another bit of drift somewhere above, the bit about 'the plucker', the version I know is ~~ I'm not the pheasant plucker I'm the pheasant plucker's son And I'm only plucking pheasants Till the pheasant plucker comes. I learnt it without a tune, but always find myself singing it to the air of "Annie Laurie' for some reason. ~Michael~ |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: MGM·Lion Date: 26 Aug 10 - 01:30 AM As this thread has been thus revived, it might not be out of place to revert to the interesting "Nicky-Tams' drift above — to point out that one of their functions at least, in the eponymous song, appears indeed to be to prevent the incursion of vermin. Those who know the song will recall that, in the last two stanzas, the narrator is unwillingly dissuaded by his girlfriend from wearing his nicky-tams to church as being inappropriate for the Sabbath ~~ "And a rat crawled up my trouser-leg in the middle o' the Psalm ~ Heuch! Never again will I rig the kirk wi'oot my nicky-tams!" ~Michael~ |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: GUEST,Jaz Date: 25 Aug 10 - 05:34 PM Sadly, the author of the song, Peter Buchanan, passed away on 15th Aug 2010. |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Girl Friday Date: 10 Mar 07 - 09:50 PM Tom. My thirty years is probably more like 50 actually. I don't know either of those areas. I was born in St Helier Hospitalin 1948. Not expected to survive, christened in hospital, placed in one of the first oxygen tents and here to tell the tale. In 1954 or 5 moved from Morden to South Wimbledon's High Path Esatate, built on a dissused cemetry behind the tube station.Lived there until 1962 when I returned to Morden. Time to apologise again folks, as this has nothing at all to do with Lonnie Donegan. I'll get me coat. Sue |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: The Walrus Date: 09 Mar 07 - 05:17 AM "...to the walrus >>> please excuse the silly arrows and no caps>> accidentally engaged filter keys and have no idea how to return to normal>>>>>this incident took place at my aunt@s parents house in johnsons close >>>>i lived in buckfast road>>>> some thirty years on i found one of the orpington thursday residents lived in canterbury road< and his mate in malmesbury road>>>>>then i found that two of my residents lived on the carshalton side also in their childhood>>>>where are you? sue ..." Sue, I'm in Peterborough Road on the Mitcham side of the Estate, and thirty years ago I was living at the Poulter Park end of Shaftesbuty Road. Best Wishes. Tom |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Girl Friday Date: 08 Mar 07 - 06:55 PM to the walrus >>> please excuse the silly arrows and no caps>> accidentally engaged filter keys and have no idea how to return to normal>>>>>this incident took place at my aunt@s parents house in johnsons close >>>>i lived in buckfast road>>>> some thirty years on i found one of the orpington thursday residents lived in canterbury road< and his mate in malmesbury road>>>>>then i found that two of my residents lived on the carshalton side also in their childhood>>>>so where are you? sue |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Scrump Date: 08 Mar 07 - 11:53 AM LTS, once the Folkie Party get to rule the country, we'll make singarounds compulsory on trains :-) |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Liz the Squeak Date: 08 Mar 07 - 11:45 AM Scrump - it doesn't... leastways, not with the po-faced buggers I was travelling with yesterday! LTS |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: The Walrus Date: 08 Mar 07 - 09:51 AM Girl Friday, "...If you lived on St Helier Estate, Carshalton, accept my apologies..." Apology accepted. Where on the estate were you? Walrus (Still on the St. Helier Estate) |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Scrump Date: 08 Mar 07 - 08:25 AM Btw LTS - I forgot to add: you can still get Airwick - see here |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Scrump Date: 08 Mar 07 - 08:23 AM Glad to hear I'm not the only one who listens to Adge on the train, LTS - I don't usually sing along out loud to it though, I don't think it would go down too well with the commuters :-) |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Scrump Date: 08 Mar 07 - 08:21 AM Quite so, Keith. The evident pleasure of Adge's father in his work, making the "gurt brown lumps... fly for miles... with his gurt big blackthorn stick" in the then pastoral setting of North Somerset in the pre-M5 days, contrasts with the relatively stressful and difficult problems, not to mention violent conflict, faced by the central character in Lonnie's song. |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Liz the Squeak Date: 08 Mar 07 - 08:18 AM Scrump - both... I've got that sort of eclectic stuff on my MP3 and just happened to catch the radio in between. It is a separate song and Adge himself announces it as the South West version of it. Usually back announced by 'I usually squirt some Airwick (substitue Oust these days) around aafter thick un', or 'Phroar, zumbody got 'en on thur boots!' Should we not link this thread with the 'liquefied manure truck' now?? LTS |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 08 Mar 07 - 06:53 AM True, and in composing his agricultural aria he was moving away from the urban angst of the earlier piece. |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Scrump Date: 08 Mar 07 - 06:28 AM Perhaps it was heard once at a pub but Adge could not remember the details. Yes, Keith, of course you are right - the lyrics themselves acknowledge the influence of "My Old Man's A Dustman". But as to your comment I quoted above, I don't think the lyrics of Adge's song indicate either way. He could have known the lyrics of "Dustman" off by heart and still written that - it's a different song so there is no attempt to parody the original. |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 08 Mar 07 - 06:23 AM Now some folks like to sing, Of their father's occupation, Dustman and the like, Clear evidence of influence by the earlier work. Perhaps it was heard once at a pub but Adge could not remember the details. |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Scrump Date: 08 Mar 07 - 05:32 AM Was listening to it only this morning Champion Dung Spreader, LTS? or My Old Man's A Dustman? |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Girl Friday Date: 07 Mar 07 - 07:37 PM When this record came out I was about ten years old. We used to have a family party at Christmas with music and games and drink (mine was a snowball- hate the stuff now). We used to play Forfeits. This always involved taking the metal dustbin lid and marching out into the back garden, singing" My old man's a dustman", usually extremely loudly, and always after 11 p.m. If you lived on St Helier Estate, Carshalton, accept my apologies. |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Darowyn Date: 07 Mar 07 - 03:24 PM I've always assumed that Cor-blimey trousers was a classic piece of English malapropism, corblimey for corduroy. Such things are common and are mostly deliberate attempts to be funny. Steve Wright on Radio 2 does them all the time "skellington" and "champio" for example. Occasionally they are funny! Cheers Dave |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Liz the Squeak Date: 07 Mar 07 - 01:04 PM It's probably shaped like a policeman's pointy headgear, and purple. LTS |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Bainbo Date: 07 Mar 07 - 12:54 PM Sunderland football fans used to sing (and occasionally still do) one to the same tune about the erstwhile captain of their deadliest rivals" "Shearer is a w*nker "He wears a w*nker's hat ..." No one's ever been able to explain to me, though, what a w*nker's hat looks like. |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Liz the Squeak Date: 07 Mar 07 - 12:37 PM Ah, that Lonnie Donnegan goin' on 'bout izz faather bein' a dustman or zommat.... Was listening to it only this morning - gets you funny looks when you sing along on the Tube train though! LTS |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: GUEST,Terry McDonald Date: 07 Mar 07 - 12:01 PM I always thought it was originally: My old man's a dustman, he fought at the battle of Mons He killed ten thousand Germans with only fifty bombs.... Can't remember the rest! |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Scrump Date: 07 Mar 07 - 11:06 AM Adge Cutler's song "Champion Dung Spreader" was a riposte to "My Old Man's A Dustman" (this was confirmed by Adge in his introduction to his song on his first album, recorded live at the Royal Oak in Nailsea, Somerset, England, on 2nd November 1966). |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Liz the Squeak Date: 07 Mar 07 - 11:02 AM If you go to the BBC website and 'listen again' option for Radio 2, you can hear Alan Dedicoat and Johnnie Walker singing along to this on Tuesdays 'Wake up to Wogan' show (6th March). The Togmeister is on holiday again, and JW is sitting in. It's available until next Monday. LTS |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Scrump Date: 07 Mar 07 - 10:50 AM "cock nail" should be "hob nail", unless I'm behind the times :-) |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: GUEST Date: 07 Mar 07 - 10:43 AM MY old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat, h e wears cor-blimey trousers, and he lives in a council flat, he looks a proper na na, in his great big cock nail boots, he's got such a job to pull them up that he calls them daisy roots! some folks get tips at xmas, and some of them forget, so when he picks their bins up, he spills them on the steps, now one old man got nasty, and to the council wrote, next time my old man went round there, he punched him in the throat oh, my old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat.......... come on guys, i'm 19 years old and i know better |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My Old Man's a Dustman (Lonnie Donegan) From: GUEST,Louise Date: 21 Apr 06 - 01:03 PM I think y version is better My old mans a dustman He wears a dustmans cap He sold it for a shillin too see a football match Fatty past to skinny Skinny past it back Fatty took the final shot And knocked the goaly flat Were was the goaly the ball was in the net Half way round the corner post With his around his neck Out came the stretcher They put him on the bed They rubbed his belly with a lump of jelly but the poor ol' soul was dead |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: GUEST,bill Date: 14 Apr 06 - 10:02 AM anybody got chords for this song, and others. cheers |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: the lemonade lady Date: 11 Jun 03 - 12:27 PM "Ever since I was a folkie I've drunk Sal's lemonade..." Thanks Herga Kitty, maybe someone can work on some more words to that! Sal |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Phot Date: 10 Jun 03 - 03:22 PM Well actually I've got a prototype 110 V8 CSW, BLAHBLAHBLAHZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! Time for a new thread??!!! Cheers all, Chris:>] |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Schantieman Date: 10 Jun 03 - 11:47 AM My boss drives a Land Rover and gets very boring talking about all the different models. Steve |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: GUEST,noddy Date: 10 Jun 03 - 10:58 AM now we are just being silly |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: DonD Date: 09 Jun 03 - 03:51 PM My old man drives a dusty Land Rover. |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Schantieman Date: 09 Jun 03 - 12:18 PM One of my old Cub Scout Leaders (now sadly, deceased) was generally known as 'Dustbin' - he used to finish off everyone's leftovers. |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: GUEST,noddy Date: 09 Jun 03 - 12:08 PM you think you got problems....my old mans a DUSTBIN |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: clansfolk Date: 09 Jun 03 - 09:27 AM what about........................... My old man's a Wild Rover??? |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: BanjoRay Date: 09 Jun 03 - 06:49 AM Schantieman, I could just about stand it if you sang it instead of Wild Rover, but if the two were sung the same evening, it would be the last time I ever went to a folkclub! Cheers Ray |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Schantieman Date: 09 Jun 03 - 06:33 AM Clansfolk's version above is exactly the same as the one on the record except that the verse about him getting married is the last full verse (but before the 'coda' bit) How about a MOMAD revival? We could all sing it at a club in the same week! ;-) Steve |
Subject: RE: My old mans a dustman From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 09 Jun 03 - 03:32 AM BanjoRay, surely "World Cup Willie" was Lonnie's worst recording? His comedy and cabaret stuff kept him performing long enough for his skiffle stuff to come back into fashion and his latter years' performances were closer to his roots. Whatever he did, he did 100%. RtS |
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