Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,Brian Grayson Date: 10 Apr 18 - 10:29 AM [Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Hagman Date: 09 Apr 18 - 09:13 AM >Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? >From: GUEST,CJB - PM >Date: 08 Apr 18 - 05:01 PM >I have been communicating with Warren Fahey about Peter Bellamy's visit to Oz. Over the years Warren sponsored a number of Brit. and Irish folk artistes down under to appear in his Folk Song series at the Sydney Opera House. Tapes of these as made by the ABC have survived such as of Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger, and also Joe Heaney. But Warren said that the Peter Bellamy tapes simply disappeared. I'm sure that he would be interested in any recordings made by PB whilst he was down under. > > I have very good quality tapes of the Bellamy programs made with Mulhullan from off-air ABC-FM, as I have mentioned above. These include: * Four one-hour programs on Kipling - Bellamy interviewed by Mulhullan and illustrated with cuts from the Argo records * An interview with PB * Concert from Sydney Opera House with PB and Shirley Collins, separately and together. PM for details. (Bellamy toured Australia twice, to my knowledge - the above tour with Shirley Collins, and once solo. No known recordings of the solo tour have surfaced.)] I'd dearly love to get hold of copies of the above - I knew Peter in the UK in the 70s, and saw him for the last time in Ontario, where he sold me a copy of the 'Fair Annie' cassette. I was out of Australia at the time of the Oz recordings. Please? Brian Grayson briangrayson@iprimus.com.au |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: DaveRo Date: 09 Apr 18 - 12:11 PM CJB's link from 2 posts back: thread.cfm?threadid=133600#3032924 |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Hagman Date: 09 Apr 18 - 09:13 AM >Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? >From: GUEST,CJB - PM >Date: 08 Apr 18 - 05:01 PM >I have been communicating with Warren Fahey about Peter Bellamy's visit to Oz. Over the years Warren sponsored a number of Brit. and Irish folk artistes down under to appear in his Folk Song series at the Sydney Opera House. Tapes of these as made by the ABC have survived such as of Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger, and also Joe Heaney. But Warren said that the Peter Bellamy tapes simply disappeared. I'm sure that he would be interested in any recordings made by PB whilst he was down under. > > I have very good quality tapes of the Bellamy programs made with Mulhullan from off-air ABC-FM, as I have mentioned above. These include: * Four one-hour programs on Kipling - Bellamy interviewed by Mulhullan and illustrated with cuts from the Argo records * An interview with PB * Concert from Sydney Opera House with PB and Shirley Collins, separately and together. PM for details. (Bellamy toured Australia twice, to my knowledge - the above tour with Shirley Collins, and once solo. No known recordings of the solo tour have surfaced.) |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,CJB Date: 09 Apr 18 - 03:56 AM Downloads of Maritime Suite in various guises formats and qualities may be found here: /mudcat.org/ The worst upload is on YouTube apparently from one of PB's cassettes. It needs deleting. I fixed your link and deleted subsequent attempts. The Blickifier works fine, but somehow, you got an extra "/" added to the address. --Mod |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,warren Fahey Date: 08 Apr 18 - 06:25 PM I believe David Mulhallen - the most active folk producer at the ABC for many years, took the masters of most live recordings. I saw them once, over a decade ago, - a mountain of them - but David disappeared. Anyone know where he is? Warren fahey bodgieproductions@gmail.com |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,CJB Date: 08 Apr 18 - 05:01 PM I have been communicating with Warren Fahey about Peter Bellamy's visit to Oz. Over the years Warren sponsored a number of Brit. and Irish folk artistes down under to appear in his Folk Song series at the Sydney Opera House. Tapes of these as made by the ABC have survived such as of Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger, and also Joe Heaney. But Warren said that the Peter Bellamy tapes simply disappeared. I'm sure that he would be interested in any recordings made by PB whilst he was down under. Meanwhile I have FLAC versions of PB's "Maritime Suite" from the original FM airing on Folk on Two. The site from which these were obtained has now gone so effectively I have the only copies. I have offered these to Fellside Records but got no response. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Hagman Date: 05 Apr 18 - 08:27 PM Not that I'm aware of. It may be some time. Likewise the Green Linnet US LP - guess the tapes have gone. Perhaps someone could talk to the EFDSS about "Second Wind" from 1985 - but assume that conversation has been ongoing? (Bellamy/Kipling fans who are not aware of the four-hour FM radio program PB made about Kippers when he was Down Here in Oz in the early 80ies are advised to PM for more info and links. No ball-tampering guaranteed....) |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,jfr66 Date: 04 Apr 18 - 10:58 PM any development with getting EXCEEDINGLY GOOD SONGS to cd ? |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Reinhard Date: 04 Aug 13 - 02:58 PM "Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs" is a Dambuster album. Therefore, like Bellamy's Trailer album "Tell It Like It Was", it is very unlikely to appear on CD in the near future. Well, with the apparent death of Dave Bulmer everything is possible in the not-so-near future... |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: pavane Date: 04 Aug 13 - 11:50 AM I will be looking out for Oberlin too. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,Blandiver Date: 04 Aug 13 - 06:47 AM To replace your vinyl? My goodness! Vinyl is the pure medium of this music (Stones in my Passway notwithstanding) - something the CD can maybe enhance by way of convenience, but never replace. I must say, I'm still waiting for the definitive Bellamy collection. Wake the Vaulted Echoes was imperfect in all sorts of ways, but hinted at what might be possible. If only the focus was on his cultural significance to the cause of music, instead of this rather irksome Folk thing which got in the way of his genius and - ultimately, tragically - rejected and killed him. Any news on the Maritime England Suite? I've got some corking versions but the nearest I've got to anything official is Bellamy's own appallingly edited self-bootleg. My favourite all-time Bellamy song is his setting of Kathleen Tardif's poem The Tea Clipper which actually cuts out on the Bellamy Bootleg. Maybe the moment has passed? |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: redhorse Date: 04 Aug 13 - 06:17 AM Having just bought the 2-CD set The Young Tradition/So Cheerfully Round, Galleries/Chicken on a Raft to replace my vinyl YT collection, I'll certainly be getting the Oberlin CD. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,Blandiver Date: 04 Aug 13 - 03:49 AM Always nice to see a Bellamy thread riding high on a five-knot tide... Of course the one we're all looking forward to right now is 25-track CD of the The Young Tradition live at Oberlin College on 17th November 1968 coming up in the autumn. I confess that I'm not the biggest TYT fan in the world, but this is definitely one to drool for: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Oberlin-1968-Young-Tradition/dp/B00E5U1C2Q/ref=sr_1_3/280-0590345-8957151?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1375602229&sr=1-3&keywords=the+young+tradition |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: MGM·Lion Date: 04 Aug 13 - 03:13 AM Out of interest, just went downstairs to check packaging on our box of Mr Kipling apple pies, which I eat lots of. Packaging still carries, in fancy lettering, the slogan "Exceedingly good..." under the brand name. ~M~ |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Artful Codger Date: 04 Aug 13 - 01:28 AM FWIW, the songs on Mr Bellamy, Mr Kipling & the Tradition originally came from the albums Keep on Kipling (Fellside FE032, 1982) and Songs an' Rummy Conjurin' Tricks (Fellside FSC 5, 1990). The title for the latter (his last completed and released album) is taken from a line in "Cholera Camp". Some additional tracks are also included: Our Fathers of Old Way Through the Woods Sir Richard's Song Brookland Road The Looking Glass Cold Iron Philadelphia Peggy Bawn The Whale Catchers |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: MGM·Lion Date: 04 Aug 13 - 01:13 AM ... They are btw still a popular item on the market, produced by Premier Foods. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: MGM·Lion Date: 04 Aug 13 - 01:09 AM It should be pointed out for such abroad &c who might not get the reference, that the title of that album was a play on a well-known UK advertising slogan of the time for Mr Kipling's Cakes, "Mr Kipling makes exceedingly good cakes": a slogan obviously expressed in faux-simple terms to give a period feel back to the great days of Empire, of which the brand name itself was presumably supposed also to be redolent. ~M~ |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Reinhard Date: 04 Aug 13 - 12:49 AM "Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs" is a Dambuster album. Therefore, like Bellamy's Trailer album "Tell It Like It Was", it is very unlikely to appear on CD in the near future. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Joe Offer Date: 03 Aug 13 - 09:11 PM There are five Peter Bellamy albums available at Spotify.com. I thinkl Spotify offers free membership in most areas, but there are limitations and commercials. I pay five bucks a month and get unlimited usage. The albums available are:
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Subject: seek: Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs From: Joe Offer Date: 03 Aug 13 - 07:54 PM I got an e-mail from somebody seeking a 1989 Peter Bellamy album titled Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs. There are several Bellamy albums available on Spotify, and I think I have a couple Bellamy recordings of his arrangements of Kipling poems, but that name doesn't sound familiar. One is a 2012 album titled "Peter Bellamy Sings the Barrack-Room Ballads of Rudyard Kipling" - I don't know what albums these are drawn from. The other is a 2001 album titled "Mr. Bellamy, Mr. Kipling, & the Tradition." It includes two complete earlier albums, "Keep On Kipling" and "Songs an' Rummy Conjurin' Tricks." This link might help: http://www.slipcue.com/music/international/celtic/artists/bellamy.html Also look at this one from Mudcatter Reinhard Zierke: http://mainlynorfolk.info/peter.bellamy/records/rudyardkiplingmadeexceedinglygoodsongs.html Also see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bellamy No definite info on Exceedingly Good Songs, but it's a start. So, back to the original question: Is Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs available on CD or MP3?? -Joe- Here is track information from Reinhard Zierke's Website: Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs Dambuster Records DAM 019 (LP, UK, 1989) Recorded by Nigel Schofield;
MusiciansPeter Bellamy, vocals [1-14], concertina [1, 3, 6];
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Subject: RE: Let's Talk Bellamy From: Speedwell Date: 31 Oct 12 - 01:56 PM I'm trying to find a copy of Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs by Peter Bellamy. There was one on ebay a while back but I wasn't successful with my bid. Otherwise it seems to be pretty much unattainable. Anyone any ideas? Thanks in advance. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Reinhard Date: 22 Aug 12 - 12:59 PM I just saw on the Fellside website that they are now selling Peter Bellamy's 'Barrack Room Ballads'. It is a double CD; the 12 tracks on the second CD seem to come from 'Soldiers Three'. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Speedwell Date: 14 Jul 11 - 08:52 AM Let's hope so Reinhard, it would be a great way to mark that date. Many thanx for the info. - I look forward to hearing BRB on CD. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,Reinhard Date: 14 Jul 11 - 05:35 AM I've just noticed on the Fellside news page an entry from last December stating "We're most definitely looking forward to 2011 with the very latest news that we've completed negotiations for [lots of other interesting albums and] Peter Bellamy's 'Barrack Room Ballads'". One more on its way to CD reissue... I would guess that this one might be available in September for the 20th anniversary of Peter Bellamy's death. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: MGM·Lion Date: 14 Jul 11 - 01:01 AM ==According to several stories I've read here, Bellamy seems to have used the line of the best thing he'd ever done for any album sold to any punter ==== ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Ah well, that was Pete. He didn't mean it dishonestly, he thought it was true at the time. He would say the same sort of thing about his comtemp fellow singers ~~ among those I recall his declaring 'about the best of the lot of us' were Nic Jones, Martin Carthy, Mike Waterson, Paul Brady... ~Michael~ |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Date: 13 Jul 11 - 04:38 PM Keep On Kipling is mostly an ensemble (trio) work and has definite feel to it from start to finish. I've no objection to the extra songs as extras after the album sequence but they don't have the same feel as the album tracks and to mix them seems to me just plain wrong somehow. And who has time to re-programme their CD player? Which ain't much use in the car. I must add, this is a minor gripe over what is an excellent package. If you only own one PB CD, then this has to be it. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: dick greenhaus Date: 13 Jul 11 - 03:31 PM point of information. CAMSCO's website isn't always exactly up-to-date. I'm only (make that barely) human. We get $15 (US) for Merlin's Isle of Gramarye, and the same for Oak Ash and Thorn. We ship world-wide (and we can ship sans jewel cases, if you prefer, to keep shipping costs down. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Reinhard Date: 13 Jul 11 - 01:29 PM According to several stories I've read here, Bellamy seems to have used the line of the best thing he'd ever done for any album sold to any punter. So why is the programming order on the original Keep on Kipling album perfect and the addition of further tracks a "hatchet job"? Just because it hasn't been done by God, er, Bellamy himself? I think this term is grossly inappropriate and unfair. It might have been a proper assessment if the remastering had been poorly done, but sheesh, just for adding some tracks? Why don't you just program your CD player to play the LP tracks in their original order and ignore the extra tracks? I, for one, am very happy to have all these songs in excellent quality now. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray Date: 13 Jul 11 - 11:32 AM I saw MIOG in HMV the other day for £15. Amazon are doing them for under a tenner. CAMSCO don't have it listed. Neither of the new editions have any additional material to prod the cash-strapped punter into purchase. I've mixed feelings about additional material anyway, but the Fellside reissue of Keep on Kipling was a hatchet job interpersing the original perfect album sequence with re-recordings of several of the Puck Songs; improved, perhaps, but hardly part of the sequence of what remains the finest of Bellamy's Kipling albums. He certainly he thought so. I won my vinyl copy off him at a raffle and asked him to make the choice. He handed me the deluxe vinyl edition of KOK and said it was the best thing he'd ever done, and I have to agree - although the dark chthonic allure of MIOG will never be matched in terms of ritual atmos and genuine chill. I've got one of PB's old self-bootlegged cassette editions on prominent display as a small object of veneration... |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: dick greenhaus Date: 13 Jul 11 - 11:12 AM BOth Oak Ash and Thorn and Merlin's Isle of Gramarye are available from CAMSCO at considerably lower prices than Amazon is charging. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Speedwell Date: 13 Jul 11 - 06:37 AM Also available now on CD is Peter Bellamy's Merlin's Isle of Gramarye - for those without record decks in their cars! |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,Susanc Date: 12 Jul 11 - 10:37 PM Spleen Cringe, I knew this was the place to go to find out what was on the album. Thank's so much. I think I'll purchase it in the future. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Spleen Cringe Date: 12 Jul 11 - 01:31 PM There you go, Susan: Oak Ash Thorn tracklisting |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,susanc Date: 12 Jul 11 - 01:10 PM I am looking for the track listings on "Oak & Ash & Thorn". Apparently it has been re-released finally and I can't find what songs are on it anywhere. I'm assuming "King Richard's Song" and the title song but have no idea what the rest are. Thanks in advance. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: MGM·Lion Date: 12 Jul 11 - 12:05 PM Just to mention that backsleeve pic on LP Both Sides Then & photo of Anthea on Bill Shute & Lisa Null's American Primitive are credited to my late wife Valerie; & the former is, I understand, reproduced in booklet of a recent CD reissue of The Transports. ~Michael Grosvenor Myer~ |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,Peadar (formerly) of Portsmouth Date: 12 Jul 11 - 10:49 AM Does anyone have updated contact information for Jenny Bellamy? We're trying to get permission for Roll Down and the email listed above isn't working. Thanks, Peter www.mudhook.net |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Jack Blandiver Date: 20 Nov 08 - 06:43 AM And you can still see my wee film which unites Peter's recording of The Fox Jumps Over the Parson's Gate with the Randolph Caldecott picture book that inspired it: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NhQMsONIwng Note: the recording here is sourced from the original vinyl long before there was ever a whisper of a CD reissue in any shape or form. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Ruth Archer Date: 20 Nov 08 - 06:13 AM And it's been nominated at one of FRoots's Cds of the year in the "Best Re-issue" category: FRoots critics' poll |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Reinhard Date: 20 Nov 08 - 05:51 AM Fellside has now re-issued Peter Bellamy's first three LPs (Mainly Norfolk, Fair England's Shore, The Fox Jumps over the Parson's Gate) as a double CD called Fair England's Shore. Reinhard |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: cptsnapper Date: 29 Nov 06 - 09:10 PM It would be nice if someone could re-release " Won't You Go My Way ", the live album which Peter made with Louis Killen in 1972. |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: del boy Date: 29 Nov 06 - 02:47 PM could any one tell me what chords for fair annie iv got it in D , but its not wright i think maybe G |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: pavane Date: 14 Feb 05 - 11:49 AM Some info The Fair Annie cassette has now been released as part of a double CD of recordings by Peter Bellamy. This was originally a limited-edition cassette, which has long been a favourite of mine. Track list here (Dave Swarbrick plays fiddle on Maids of Australia) |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: pavane Date: 04 Sep 03 - 05:06 PM Fair Annie was also on the cassette 'Fair Annie' - not surprising, I suppose. Yes, when I met Peter in Luxembourg, he also played blues. I was trying to accompany on blues harp, but he strayed too far from 12 bar and I got lost! |
Subject: Lyr Add: Fair Annie (as sung by Peter Bellamy) From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 03 Sep 03 - 06:46 PM FAIR ANNIE Comb back your hair, Fair Annie, he said Comb it back into your crown For you must live a maiden's life When I bring my new bride home. Oh, how can I look maidenlike When maiden I am none? For six fair sons have I had by you And a seventh coming on? Oh, you will bake my bread, he said, And you will keep my home And you will welcome my lady gay When I bring my bridal home. And on the door he hung a silken towel Hung by a silver pin That Fair Annie, she might wipe her eyes As she went out and in. Now, six months gone, and nine comin' on And she thought the time o'er-long So she's taken a spyglass all in her hand And up to the tower she has run. She has look-ed east, she has look-ed west She has looked all under the sun, And who should she see but Lord Thomas All a-bringin' of his bridal home. So she has called for her seven sons By one, by two, by three And she has said to her eldest son Oh, come tell me what you see. So he's look-ed east, he has look-ed west, He has looked all under the sun And who should he see but his father dear, He was bringin' of his new bride home. So it's, Shall I dress in green? she said, Or shall I dress in black? Or shall I go down to the ragin' main And send my soul to wrack? Oh, you need not dress in green, he said, Nor you need not dress in black But throw you wide the great hall door And welcome my father back. So it's Welcome home, Lord Thomas, she said, And You're welcome unto me. And welcome, welcome, your merry men all That you've brought across the sea. And she's serv-ed them with the best of the wine; Yes, she's serv-ed them all 'round But she's drunk water from the well For to keep her spirits down. And she's wait-ed upon them all the livelong day, And she thought the time o'er-long. And she's taken her flute all in her hand And up to her bower she has run. She has fluted east, she has fluted west, She has fluted loud and shrill. She wished that her sons were seven greyhounds And her a wolf on the hill. Then, Come downstairs, the new bride said, Oh, come down the stairs to me. And tell me the name of your father dear, And I'll tell mine to thee. Well, King Douglas,it was my father's name And Queen Chatryn was my mother And Sweet Mary, she was my sister dear And Prince Henry was my brother. If King Douglas, it is your father's name And Queen Chatryn is your mother Then I'm sure that I'm your sister dear As Prince Henry, he is your brother. And I have seven ships out on the sea They are loaded to the brim And six of them will I give to you And one more to carry me home. Yes, six of them will I give to you When we've had Lord Thomas burned! As sung by Peter Bellamy on Wake the Vaulted Echoes DRO |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings+advert. From: Folkiedave Date: 29 Aug 03 - 03:26 PM I have some of the original YT recordings on vinyl + Transports at the usual inexpensive rates for those into vinyl or collecting. Jenny Bellamy is a lovely lady and can often be found singing carols at Dungworth. See www.collectors folk.co.uk Dave |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,Riggy @ Work Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:59 AM I had the pleasure of staying at the Black Gate of Newcastle's castle in 1971, with Stefan & Liz Sobel. Peter came & stayed there as well for a week. Great times. Relaxing at " home " he always preferred playing blues, and accompanying himself quite expertly on guitar. On his last day with us, he let me record a song he wrote called the "Valley of the Stookie" concerning his experiences finding archeological artifacts like Roman coins, and Saxon bones on his family's farm. Did he ever record this anywhere else ?? Riggy |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,nigel schofield Date: 28 Aug 03 - 04:29 PM There were actually 4 YT LPs - though the Xmas album waited years and eventually came out on CD - plus an EP and a single I produced Second Wind - a delightful project in which to be involed: so far as I know there are no plans to issue it on CD and last time I checked the master tapes were missing. Leaves in the woodland, eh ? nice to see it on the new June Tabor best of....version on new set is a stunning arrangement by Grace Notes |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: Margaret V Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:38 PM Thanks for the info, Nigel, maybe it's good I never got around to ordering it previously! Margaret (who has been busily singing "The Leaves in the Woodland" this evening) |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: GUEST,Nigel Schofield Date: 04 Aug 03 - 05:28 PM Just so's you know - the remastered, boxed double CD Silver Anniversary edition of Peter Bellamy's Transports will be released by Free Reed in the next couple of months. Aside from the remaster of the original album it contains a second CD of new and classic recordings of the songs by a whole host of friends and famous folkies. There is also an extensive book which deals with the history of The Transports album and also with the historical events surrounding it |
Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings? From: RolyH Date: 17 Oct 02 - 06:00 PM Yes Skipper "Second Wind" is a good album.Peter Bellamy and his unique squeezebox style.None better than his version of "The Exile Song" |
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