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You and Your 'Folkbabies'

AllisonA(Animaterra) 16 Feb 04 - 06:03 AM
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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 16 Feb 04 - 06:03 AM

Welcome, Alicia! You've found a loving shoulder! I know all about it- it's great to cry on!

My folk baby turned 15 yesterday. She had a great weekend- lots of attention- but cried at bedtime because she hadn't had enough time to practice her guitar!! So I said- "It's your birthday- stay up a little and play that thing!"
So she did.

(Saturday she also presented me with a Valentine pineapple- the traditional gift Byron gave me, since he couldn't bring himself to go along with the crowd and do something boring like chocolate or flowers)

I love my folkbaby!

Allison


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Subject: Obit: Akula
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Feb 04 - 09:17 PM

I think only folkies, and maybe only Mudcat folkies in particular, can really understand this one...

Folkbaby Katarina is a big go-to-school girl now. We don't see her very often, altho even after a two year hiatus, I am still her Susan when we cross paths at WalMart. A lot has happened in her life, and in mine, since she and babysib had a spare home here on my lap and shoulder. I guess till now I never thought about it-- but once you learn how to deal with having an empty nest, you can have it empty out over and over again. You get good at hooking up good and close when that's called foro, and then you get good at letting go. Hm!

One of the things that happened since Katarina's tenure was.... there was an especially dear kitty we had kept and cared for, when my son David left almost 6 years ago to run nuke reactors in subs. She was a special-needs kitty, very inbred, very strangely wired even for a cat. She had no voice till she was about 6. She survived a deep depression when David left, as well as several times getting run off the property and lost as a result of another child's kitty we kept, and numerous scrapes normal to cats. She survived starvation when her stupid caretaker fatalistically mistook her weight loss for feline leukemia (when actually it was just bum teeth). That crisis ended happily the day Katarina's babysib was here swilling down formula and Akula climbed up in my face to meow in hunger and try to steal the bottle, so I could SEE her tooth that had prevented her eating. She HATED babies, but that day one saved her life. She went on to survive kidney failure, too, for a long time, with much care and worry on our part.

Akula was a riot. She was prone to getting stuck in incomprehensible behaviors, like sleeping in kitchen cupboards or in her fresh kitty litter, or like falling asleep draped around the kitchen faucet in mid-drip-drink. She would repetitively sail through the glass (in her mind that is), to get the birdies fluttering on the other side of the sun-dappled window that's about two feet from my elbow when I am a-pudering. Eventually I learned not to keep valuable things on top of the scanner she used as a launch-pad.

These bahaviors would be quite rigid tll a new one took its place. You never knew when she would shift. It could be weeks or years. For instance, one day I realized I could put the collection of cute espresso cups back where they belonged, but that Hardi's bell-jar clock had better go live in the china cabinet for awhilke.

One of her most persistent behaviors was sitting on laps. You could dump her off your lap a hundred times, and she'd jump right back up again. She gave us particular joy during her TV-sleeping period, when she'd lay herself across the top of the warm TV and fall asleep, only to fall off about a half hour later, in her sleep, nearly taking the TV down upon herself-- till the day we reconfigured the TV setup properly (after many tries) so that she could not actually get up there. And it was also very funny that she did not accept this new reality on first encountering it.

Akula was a small kitty, black and white. I used to enjoy looking at how her color pattern must have been formed while she was just a wee, legless blob-- clearly some of the puddles of white crossed over legs as if they had once been a single continent. She was beautifully formed... lovely little dainty toes.... And a sweet face; since she started with no voice, she developed a highly-expressive face and she could tell me lots of things she thought I ought to do. Sometimes I didn't understand, but she would get right up in my face till I got it.

Her kidney failure took a long time to finish running run her down. We knew her bloodwork indicated high numbers (badddd), but she still played, so we got the special food, tricked her into eating it toward the end....

Now, this next part will only make sense if you know that after folkbabies, I spent long weeks and months rehabbing, doing pretty severe workouts, physical therapy really. And every day when I came home cold and sore and needing to be held, to be alone in this big empty house, Akula would come curl up under my left elbow and settle in for a long chair nap with me. She'd ooze across my chest and stomach as she slept, and purr like Magic Fingers in a bed.


Well, a couple of weeks ago the hard decision came my way. As I contemplated the necessary action, holding her that last day, and then one more last day, I discovered that all my past griefs, none of them fully cried out at the time, had gotten hung onto this small cat. I just can't even say how hard it was. But we put her down much soomer than I had thought would be necessary, about a week ago.


Coming home to a house suddenly absent the catness of cat-- now, that is a hard thing. It's hard to cry about it, even, when the cat who has been your secret security blanket isn't there to comffort you, being herself the thing you are grieving.

I could hardly stand to sit in my chair. How was I going to get through a day without soft fur under my fingers? I was appalled to reliaze how important she had become; I was frightened to realize how vulnerable was my heart. Cuz I am tough.

Well. The NEXT DAY as we were leaving our Saturday Night service, young Vicky came into the building looking very troubled. She and her man have come to the service a few times, living as they do across the street from the church. We know her man from him living next door to our house with his wife Kathy for awhile in the last few years. But now he's with Vicky and their baby. Vicky was there to ask help-- I had offered to babysit if needed. Now she needed to take her man off to the hospital for his seizures, they had changed his medicine, he was having multiple seizures and could we take the baby? Yes!!!!!

Baby Alicia came home with us for a surprise overnighter. She slept mostly. She's about 2 months I guess. And when she woke up after hours on my shoulder that first night, I saw with a shock that behind those eyes was someone a little.... different.... from most of us. She's very sweet... and I think she is going to have some special needs, maybe profound ones. By the time we went to bed we'd discovered that one of the few things that gets through to her is high-pitched sound. We dutifully made Three Stooges sounds for her and she smiled and smiled back. WE won't be surprised if she will want to marry Curly when she gets a little older.

It occurred to me, that first day with Alicia, that if I had not stopped caring for Akula around the clock just the day before, we would not be able to squeeze this child into the bizarre routine that rules our house. If we had said no the first time, these very-isolated people wold not have asked again, much less have asked for us to take her very week. And here was, filling that spot Akula had filled so well. Huh, think of that, I thought.

Now she's back for another overnighter, and we will have her a few hours every Tuesday evening as well so mommy and daddy can go to GED class. I've just handed her over to Hardiman, who has just come back from a youth group meeting.

But what sent me to the computer with her on my shoulder a bit ago was the thought I'd had while we were sitting in the big recliner. I was thinking about Akula again, and there was a blues concert running on the computer with video and great sound, and as I watched and missed my kitty (oops, DAVE's kitty) I was thumping her back and butt in a sort of unconsiously-washboarding kinda way. And I realized how much I can give this child with music. Whatever capacity she has, we can help her organize it and stow a lot of good tunes down cellar. She will, at the very least, be a great dancer, because I don't think I can keep from thumping her when I listen to music, and I have a lot of music to listen to, that for some reason, I've been recording from online radio shows for weeks like a compulsive nut. And that's just the gospel material-- I also found good links to lots of good audio and video music online. And I WILL not make her a TV baby! She's a folkbaby!

And I can sing to her with my own high voice. Right now Jean Ritchie is doing it for me.


Well, that's the new folkbaby in our house. We joke that instead of having a baby of our own together when we blended our familes, we have us a Serial Baby instead. Right now we have this one. I reckon there will be a couple-few more. Word is bound to get around.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Apr 02 - 04:13 PM

Humn.... Is that a sacred song without words? *G* Couldn't resist....

~Susan


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: MMario
Date: 07 Apr 02 - 01:05 PM

Wow - Katarina is gonna be fun to see at the Mudgather!

My latest "faire-baby" (I tend to collect them at pub sings at Ren-faire rather then folk sings) is also a "church-baby" as her mom was one of my "church kids" years ago. Gaia is only 5 days old at this point - but I've already had the pleasure of giving her a bottle, and holding her for several hours. - I practised a song or two on her the other day -and several humns today. I intend to spend a lot of time singing to and with her as she grows.


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Apr 02 - 10:43 AM

My folkbaby Katarina is a folkchild now with a babysib. They are with us for some childcare while their father heals from foot surgery, and their mother works.

Something really interesting happened last night. Katarina loves books so much she would almost rather be read to than anything else. She knows where the book stash is, too, here, where all our kids' abandoned books await new little readers. But yesterday she discovered block building, and the books were untouched. Then last night she picked up a booklet lying by my chair, and made it clear that reading time had arrived.

Well, it was a songbook I had left lying around, in a pile of others, as I had been looking for some new church tunes to try.... and so I explained to her that this was a different kind of book, a SONG book.... and it would not have any pictures, and I would not read it to her but we would do something else with it. She climbed up into my lap, puzzled, but expecting something-- because, after all, something interesting is usually happening at our house!

I proceeded to sing her all the songs I knew in the book. She has some speech problems, so I think I know why she sat with her eyes inches from my mouth, watching intently as I slowly formed the words and sang them to her.

Then when we were done I bundled her and babysib up to take them home. In the car she burbled about all we had done that day and then fell silent. A few miles down the road, from the silence, came this:

"Shushee?"

"Yes honey."

"I wan' talk to you, Shushee."

"OK, I'm listening."

There was a long silence. Then, heartfelt, "Shushee, I love your home."

WOW!!!!!

I told her of course that we love having her visit, too.

What a concept! Children demanding bedtime songbooks!

Tuck a few songbooks in with your bedtime books and see what happens!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Madam Gashee
Date: 03 Oct 01 - 04:20 AM

As a mother of 3 folkbabies or shantybabies... My eldest at the age of 12 is too old for the junior shanty group that his baby sister now sings with(aged 10). He prefers to sing with the adults of course. my 2 year old who never uttered an recognizable word until 6 months ago now wanders our home alternating between singing, "When the boat comes in", "Donkey riding" and "Walk around honey Walkaround". His latest addition to his repertoire which had us in hysterics was "Sam's gone away on a ship!" Well he's got the gyst of it...


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Amergin
Date: 02 Oct 01 - 06:15 PM

Well my folkbaby is about 7 months now...has three teeth and she can crawl...preditcion is that she will learn to walk soon...her dad tells me she is too smart for her own good...will be going up to see her/them in a few weeks for a couple of days...need to visit more to keep up with tradition...


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Gloredhel
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 08:04 PM

I was a music baby, though mostly "oldies" and classical. I discovered Irish music at age 10 when friends got me dancing, and the harp, voice, tin whistle, and hopefully soon the guitar have all followed (something new every two years!). After I dragged him to Catskills Irish Arts Week, my dad even decided to take up the flute again after 35 years!

Every time I perform at parties, some mother is trying to keep her toddler away from my harp, but I smile at 'em and if I get a break I even let them play a little. My dance teacher has this cute little redheaded 20-month old who, upon hearing the words " five, six, seven, eight" will begin bouncing up and down and skipping in a circle. All the kids at class encourage the little tyke. I'm trying to get her to play the toy bodhran, accordian, and guitar that belong to her brother who could care less, but she only seems to want to dance.


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 12:24 PM

Hi weepiper. Welcome to Mudcat! Your post is wonderful-- it reminds me why it's so important that we have a place like Mudcat to keep learning and sharing the good old stuff.

You'll find lots iof helpful stuff in the FAQ thread at the top of the thread list. And keep an aye out for member Hesperis-- I think you two will have some things in common.

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: weepiper
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 01:59 PM

Hi all I was a folkbaby. All my early musical memories are of stuff like the Watersons and Brass Monkey. I got taken to the local folk club from an early age and used to demand my mum should sing grisly ballads at bedtime. Some of the best bits were the annual folk club barbecue, when everybody got together and sat on hay bales round a bonfire singing 40-part harmonies to shanties and stuff. Now I'm 23 and I still love it. I play small pipes, whistles, also a bit of fiddle, mandolin, cittern... I even sing when I think no-one's looking. What is it about folky kids and heavy metal by the way? Of my current session mates I'd say 80% are also into that or used to be.


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 11:23 AM

What say our newer members?

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Ruthie A
Date: 05 May 01 - 10:55 AM

I was a bluesbaby! The Father's inflicted blues guitar on the family forever, so I had to go and discover folk independently a couple of years ago at the age of 11. I've even managed to convert him! I'm having a bit of bother fending off wind band, bigband and chamber music though - they keep sneaking up on me whenever I drop my guard.

Ruthie


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: GUEST
Date: 04 May 01 - 07:38 PM

I'm abit confused but i was suposed 2 b born at the time of stainsby folk festival but i was early and that is the only year i've ever missed apart from this year due 2 foot and mouth dorrie xxx


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 May 01 - 02:18 AM

LOL!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 04 May 01 - 02:15 AM

Hmm. No babies here, thank god. Closest thing around me to a baby is my 5-years-old niece, but she seems to hate all kinds of folk music. Just yesterday, I was listening to some lovely Polish folk music at work, when she and my sister came over for a visit. I said to her, "Come here, you little Polak. I've got some good music for you." Not only was she not interested in listening to it, but she refused my offer to burn her a copy. Maybe if I tell her it's Black Sabbath...

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 May 01 - 02:02 AM

Folkbabies love MudGathers, and multiply once there.

They love plucked psalteries too.

Now, I want to hear about Shula's Folkbabies.

Tell!

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Apr 01 - 12:15 AM

Refresh!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Matt_R
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 10:57 AM

And he likes Kid Rock!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: harpgirl
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 10:27 AM

My eighteen year old 6'3" folk baby has been going to festivals and sessions since he was born. Last weekend he sang "Dixie Darlin" in the men's singing at Florida Old Time Music Championships, dedicating it to his old friend Marty Schuman. He also sang "Santy Ano" with me on stage. His dad plays guitar upside down and backwards ( a lefty like Libba Cotten)and is a drummer and singer for an Arkansas band called the Tyrones.

Nathan likes singing and especially loves the energy of shanties. He also volunteers at folk festivals and is scheduled next to work at the Florida Folk Festival May 26th through the 28th at White Springs. He also composes original songs. He has a magnificent voice!!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 04:46 PM

I'm depressed. I want to hear more about Folkbabies.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: artbrooks
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 11:24 PM

I've been using the DT for reference for quite a while, but only realized the chat was here a month or two ago. I just changed my user name from "art", because there seem to be too many people around using one version or another of that name. And for some reason my Paltalk name is "artandjenn", which is our e-mail address. Oh well....and to answer your question, I love it!!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 11:15 PM

Gee, artbrooks, that's good. You sounded too good to let get away! I see you joined fairly recently-- been welcomed good and proper yet? How's this all working for ya?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: artbrooks
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 10:41 PM

Sorry...that GUEST was me...forgot I was at an alien computer.


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 06:35 PM

Guest-of-whom-Jenn-is-half-- delightful. Any klezmer in that mix? And would you care to join up with our merry Mudcat and be member-ized? Or are you jined up already and just off yer cookie today?

Your comment about loops-- I pictured loop-end strings, plucked once and vibrating for a long time.

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 06:23 PM

Jenn (the other half) sang in a folk dance band in Seattle back in the mid to late 70s, so there was a lot of Balkan, Greek and Israeli vocalizing going on. Our older girl was born in '75. J just came back from visiting her in San Antonio and says they harmonized Balkan folk music from one end of the beltloop to the other. The otehr folkbaby can't wait until she turns 21 in May, because mostof the Celtic music venues in Tucson are bars, and she can't get in. Early experiences do stick. (Do loops have ends? Never mind)


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Matt_R
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 06:06 PM

Lol Firecat!! But hey, I got my mom to actually sing pieces of "Nothing Else Matters" by Metallica, and my Dad really likes "2 Princes" by the Spin Doctors. The Limp Bizkit thing was funny. Usually, even I would be smacking them down as crap, but I heard their new song "My Way" on the radio yesterday, and I LIKED it!! So much for hating Bizkit! But that's just me loving music again. I even love Nirvana now!!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 03:14 PM

Awwwww!!!! BW & Nathan! And Matt.... and thanks for the wise words Firecat. You come shout in one of MY threads ANYTIME.

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Amergin
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 01:51 PM

Well, I just got back from meeting my folkbaby....Little Brittany is one of the most beautiful girls I have ever had the pleasure of seeing....I was able to hold her and rock her and sing to her....and she seemed to like it, cause she would only cry once I stopped....(the in between songs and such), maybe it is time to increase my repetoire....It was so great to see her dad flushed with pride over his family....

Amergin


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Bedubya
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 11:34 AM

One of my fondest memories of my children's early years is of taking my son to a ten-day-long bluegrass music festival when he was less than a year old. For those of you who have never been to a bluegrass festival, the true objective of the whole thing is to ignore the "name" performers on the stage (unless one of them is Doc Watson) and participate in as many informal campground jam sessions as possible. As the then-wife and I were religious about sharing child-care duties, it was inevitable that the desire to pick and the responsiblities of fatherhood would conflict. No problem! Just pop the kid into one of those backpack kid carriers, grab the D-35 and away we go. By the time the festival was over the kid had visited every campsite at the place and everybody knew his name while I was just "the guy with the Martin in front and Tony in back".

That happened more than twenty years ago, had to sell the D-35 somewhere along the way, and that kid lives hundreds of miles away now and plays in a rock band. But, about once a year we try to get together at a bluegrass or folk festival and he brings the grandsons along and, though they're too big to tote around in backpacks now, we head off to all the campsites with D-28 in hand and they charm the ladies while Grand-dad plays Whiskey Before Breakfast.

Cheers

bwl


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Firecat
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 05:31 AM

To add to Matt's ideas :-

LET THEM HAVE THEIR OWN TASTE AS THEY GROW UP!!!!!

Sorry for shouting, but when Dad talks all the way through Top Of The Pops, or the Pepsi Chart, going "This is complete ******.... In my day people could actually sing...." and so on, I think "Well, I think it's really good, so mind your own business."

Mind you, I do turn things like Limp Bizkit and Eminem up just to annoy him!!

There is ONE thing I can say in his defence :- He likes Eva Cassidy. Her album "Songbird" is currently No 1 in the UK album charts, so it's not ALL bad!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 10:35 AM

Here's what NOT to tell them:

a.) that rock & roll is loud and you can't understand the lyrics

b.) that your kid has a lousy voice

My parents told me bold and they were flat-out WRONG on both subjects. Now my sister likes when I sing, and even my parents enjoy the rock & roll I play on the stereo and in the car.


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 10:30 AM

Well RtS, there is always hope. *G*

Firecat, what do you think we old fogies ought to keep in mind about our folkbabies?

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 10:26 AM

Susan, you may well be right, both my nephews go along to support their cousin who plays in a very quiet acoustic-indie pop band and the elder had classical music at his wedding recently. And the bride didn't wear her Doc Martens either!
RtS (I may be an old fogey but I don't want to be a great-uncle just yet!)


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Firecat
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 09:43 AM

I was a folkbaby! Mum and Dad went to folk festivals while Mum was expecting me and I went to my very first one at the age of only four months old, but I had already been exposed to it after birth because my parents ran a folk club. 17 years on, I have actually played in a folk group myself, and am a huge fan of Vin Garbutt, Artisan and the Old Rope String Band, among others. However my musical tastes have broadened and I am now a pop fan as well. Mind you, I was exclusively a folkchild until I turned 13 and became aware of the wonders of Boyzone and North And South!!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 08:58 AM

But I think it's just a phase RtS-- even folkbabies have those. (I don't think, for instance, we actually wind up with folkbimbos.) Our boys went through that same musical death trip and came out the other side, loving Cab Calloway and Mississippi John Hurt. We ended up teasing them that a generation that has to salute the music of its geezer parents, and can't even stage a good musical rebellion, is in deep doo-doo. They'd laugh and cue up ZZ Top one more time, or Tom Waits, our own master of positivity.

But for those whose growing-up folkbabies are "phasing" now--

DAUGHTERS OF FEMINISTS

Love to know how THAT story came out!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 08:48 AM

Yes, RtS, you'll have to work on that in time to catch the next generation!

It's a bit like the song, "Daughters of Feminists."

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 04:08 AM

My nephews, now successful young men, must have reacted predictably to the sound of their musically-challenged uncle wailing the blues and the skiffle repertoire: their tastes run to heavy metal bands with charming names like Megadeth and Anthrax and their idea of heaven was the Monsters of Rock heavy metal gigs at Castle Donnington.
Sorry, guys.
RtS


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 11:32 PM

Ah Droen, welcome, welcome to the Mudcat. Join us won't you?

Yes, that is EZZACKLY what I was talking about! Don't you love it! Tell us more!!! I want DETAILS!

Jean-- hard to imagine. Will you be my folkmama if we bump into each other? For about 5 minutes just so I can see what it's like? I was a classicsbaby and jazzbaby. I gotta catch up some.

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 10:00 PM

Yes, Droen, that's how it starts. My two boys spent a lot of time at festivals. Does anyone remember Newport? Well if you were one of the seven-or-eight-thousand audience, looking at that big, bright stage, you'd never have known of all the little bodies sleeping underneath it, backstage. We performers baby-sat for each other, so my tots have been watched over by Mary Travers, Toshi Seeger, Phil Ochs, Joan Baez, Big Mama Thornton, Judy Collins, Libba Cotton- oh, on and on (Bob D. was there but wouldn't watch anyone's kids as he didn't have any and wasn't automatically experienced with kids as most female people are).

When our son # 1 was five, he came in from Kindergarten one day and said, "Mom, it is all right if I like a little jazz?" Yes, they both went through all the stages of music, and now in their sober forties they're quite musically educated, but their teen-age scorn for folk music has long since worn away and now both of them work and play in that field. So, I guess that old saying is true, "Don't matter how you raise 'em, if you love 'em they'll turn out all right." Jean


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: GUEST,Droen
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 09:17 PM

Hehe... I've never posted here, but I've got a folk baby of m'own. My sister's child stays with me three nights a week and my friends and I always seem to get together to jam on at least one of those nights. Todd is only 13 months old but he's already singing his heart out with us and aside from nursing he's never happier... guess he's gonna have to become part of the group once he gets old enough.

Thought I'd share.


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Matt_R
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 07:12 PM

Well what? You can put it in there if you can squeeze some extra space!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 07:08 PM

WELL?????

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Matt_R
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 07:05 PM

LOL Sooz, I had forgotten about that!!!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 06:26 PM

Ya know Matt I bet they sound a lot like a certain tape cut I am thinking of, which really, if there is any justice in this world, oughtta go in the gospel library.

Yes, Nathan, hope. Who are YOUR folkbabies? You don't have to make your own ya know.

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Matt_R
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 06:07 PM

Lol Sooz...the twins are a riot alright! I can just hear them singing in my mind right now!


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 05:00 PM

ah...hope for the old traditions and the new traditions....


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 03:39 PM

Or buy Wee Sing for Babies and then fake it so well some young feller thinks you're the bees' knees and then.... wait, you're right!

~S~


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 03:37 PM

A few years ago, a young lady came up after my performance and asked, seriously,blushing, "Can you tell me- is there a college class, or something...what I mean is, do they teach...Where can I go to learn how to sing lullabyes?" My answer, "Have a baby!"


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Subject: RE: You and Your 'Folkbabies'
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 02:28 PM

More folkbabies....

I must meet those twins.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Tune, Kid Hauling Shanty
From: Barbara
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 02:24 PM

Hi crew, here's the tune for the Kid Hauling Shanty above. The author, Dorothy, doesn't have kids of her own, but has "folk babied" many of ours at Singtime Frolics in Portland, Oregon. She gives her permission to post this, incidentally. She said one night as we were finishing up a late song circle, she watched all the people locating and scooping up their sleeping kids and suddenly flashed on the idea that we needed a shanty for the job.
Blessings,
Barbara

MIDI file: kidhaul1.mid

Timebase: 240

TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Tempo: 100 (600000 microsec/crotchet)
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