Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Roberto Date: 05 Nov 10 - 05:33 AM What happened today? First day without a new song... |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Reinhard Date: 14 Oct 10 - 06:44 PM I download the blog's songs manually with iTunes and haven't missed any yet. But I have also bought the past months' download albums. They are supposed to have a higher bitrate than the blog tracks, and they aren't really expensive at less than 10 Euro per month, i.e. about 30 cent per song. That might be a good way for you to fill the gaps. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Tattie Bogle Date: 11 Oct 10 - 08:35 PM I set my Itunes for daily downloads, but seem to be missing a lot, even after "Get All" downloaded a good few today. And some are no longer available on streaming. Missing 14, 24-29, 31-53, 55-61, 63-65, 67-69 abd 104 onwards. Why?? |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Geoff the Duck Date: 08 Oct 10 - 04:18 AM Just checked where I have downloaded them to and Jon seems to be up to 100 songs. Note to self - Must find time to have a proper listen. Quack! GtD. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Phil Edwards Date: 15 Aug 10 - 04:48 PM Which young singers on the 'folk scene' do people rate at the moment? I have a few favourites but they are thin on the ground Cue shameless plug. (I'm not young, but I am new - I was hardly singing this stuff at all until a couple of years ago.) |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Will Fly Date: 15 Aug 10 - 11:27 AM That's why I always sit down to play... (Ralphie, wash your mouth out). |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Ralphie Date: 15 Aug 10 - 11:06 AM "Instrumentalists are thick on the ground" A lot of them are thick standing up too!! |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: mikesamwild Date: 15 Aug 10 - 07:42 AM He told me recently he has to go to a friend's studio so it's not home recording. I wonder whether it's a long standing project. I noticed quite a few years ago when I was bidding on eBay for old LPS etc, that I was up against him. At the time you could investigate who your opposition was on the bidding war! At the time I wasn't too keen on Jon's voice, much as I love Bellowhead etc, but I am now, and I wonder if he set out to concsciously work on it. Quite a while ago I was ssaying to people 'I think he's found his voice.' Certainly on The Floddplain Album I was most impressed as I was at several club solo performance. Of course all singers have to develop their voice and their personal style and technique. I just hope we get some more good young male and female singers coming through. Instrumentalist are thick on the gound. Which young singers on the 'folk scene' do people rate at the moment? I have afew favourites but they are thin on the ground |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Will Fly Date: 15 Aug 10 - 04:07 AM In recording terms, there are so many good portable recording devices of quality available these days, so the actual process of creating and downloading the songs may not be too arduous. My guess is that the greater part of the project is finding and trying out the new songs before recording them - and that's where Jon may well tap his nose! I love this project. I think it's an excellent role model for would-be singers and performers, and Jon's one of the good guys - a dedicated and talented musician. If he gets some publicity from the project as well, then why not? It's his living, like any other. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Ralphie Date: 15 Aug 10 - 01:50 AM I did ask Jon at Sidmouth how (knowing his considerable touring commitments) did he find the time to do this project? He juist smiled and tapped his nose!!! Need to know basis obviously! I'm convinced he's either got a voice double, or came up with the idea a looooong time ago, |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: evansakes Date: 14 Aug 10 - 05:23 AM Jon's played his googly today (that's 'thrown a curveball' for you lot in the USA) Several firsts with today's offering.... 1. There are TWO songs up there today. 2. There's also a video. 3. He's got someone helping him out (Dan Plews) 4. AND (joy of joys!) there's even a little vocal harmony!! Even better....it's Canadee-i-o http://www.afolksongaday.com/ |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Herga Kitty Date: 10 Aug 10 - 08:47 AM Refresh.... Kitty |
Subject: RE: Song a Day-- Jon Boden From: Herga Kitty Date: 10 Aug 10 - 08:46 AM Schlimmerkerl - you're a bit late catching up. There's already a thread on this here ! Kitty |
Subject: Song a Day-- Jon Boden From: GUEST,schlimmerkerl Date: 10 Aug 10 - 08:36 AM Just that-- http://www.afolksongaday.com/about/ |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Zhenya Date: 10 Aug 10 - 12:27 AM I just found out about this project and then found the Mudcat thread here. I go to a singer's group where we sing mainly traditional music, completely unaccompanied, both solo and songs with choruses. Sometimes new people join us who have heard a bit of this music and are interested, but don't know where to find songs. I think Jon Boden's project is a great resource, and I just sent out the link to several people. Not only renditions of the songs, but background information and additional links as well. I'm happy to listen to these songs myself, and I think this is a great introduction for people just starting to listen to and sing traditional music. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: mikesamwild Date: 30 Jul 10 - 03:47 PM Re the notes Fay Hield says its someone from Proper Distribution called Chris (I think) |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: mikesamwild Date: 30 Jul 10 - 07:13 AM The Coilin Irwin piece in the Guardian seems to imply that he , or Jon or other folk people think people have stopped singing communally in pubs etc.(as opposed to in upstairs clubrooms) In my experience song and tune sessions, working mens clubs, acapella, unplugged, open mic, acoustic nights, karaoke, post rugby club songs, singing on the chara, etc etc. Noone queried the relevance of Mercedes benz as opposed to 'Folk' tunes. they just went into the eclectic bag and got selected or rejected by the community process.muisc have been going strong and continued the tradition of tune ups, free and easies and singalongs since I can remember and I'm 70. I welcomed the folk revival but never stopped singing what I'd grown up with and which accompanied most of my social activities. My partner and I have had two pubs where singing went on every night in the public space as well as a folk club upstairs. By the way who is writing the notes to the songs on Jon's web pag? |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: GUEST,Ralphie Date: 30 Jul 10 - 12:44 AM Actually, Thinking about it in a practical way, considering the amount of travelling/gigging/recording that Jon does, there are going to be days when he has to put 15 or maybe 20 songs in "the can" so to speak! Mind you, it might be fun to here him do a Child ballad whilst driving down the M1! That wouldn't be accompanied! (In the UK you can get arrested for using a mobile phone whilst driving, I'm not sure if the same applies to singing!) |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: The Borchester Echo Date: 29 Jul 10 - 09:36 AM JB talks about the project in yesterday's Grauniad. Yes, Child Morris is fab.
Wednesday 28 July 2010 22.15 BST
A few weeks ago Jon Boden, the current BBC Folk Singer of the Year, went to a friend's home studio in Sheffield and recorded an unaccompanied version of the famous old folk song The Larks They Sang Melodious (alternatively known as Pleasant and Delightful). On Midsummer Day (24 June) he posted it on a new website he'd created and embarked on the first step of a strange and demanding odyssey, in which he vows to record and post a different folk song every day for a year. A far cry from his more familiar role as extrovert frontman with the 11-piece folk big band Bellowhead, the Folk Song a Day concept has already attracted accusations that Boden has either lost his marbles or become a shameless self-publicist. Yet behind this novel initiative lies a serious intent, which poses profound questions about the changing role of song in society. Namely, have we lost the joy of singing for its own sake, and the social benefits of community, self-expression and identity that go with it? And, if so, can they be recovered? Time was when locals would get together in pubs, private houses or at public gatherings, joining in song as a matter of course. Stimulated in part by many inviting anecdotes of these occasions from England's most revered traditional singers, the Copper Family, several of the early British folk revivalists of the 1960s were driven by the dream of breathing life into old folk songs and restore them to community life. These revivalists achieved much, notably a nationwide circuit of clubs, which attracted devoted enthusiasts and supported a network of professional musicians as folk music blossomed into a thriving art form. But in a fast-moving world, their original ideals were strangled by the march of television, communication and globalisation – with the inevitable decline in pub culture and community spirit itself – and some of those early performers such as Norma Waterson consequently now regard the revival as a failure. Yet a vibrant new generation of folk musicians have imaginatively reinvigorated the genre in recent years. The title of Jim Moray's award-winning 2008 album, Low Culture, was a deliberate expression of what he felt folk music should represent. "The tradition isn't something out of the ordinary, it's the very definition of ordinary," he says. "If folk is the music of the people then it's surely wrong to treat it as 'high art' that should be preserved unchanged. Folk music is low culture." Similar thoughts occupy Boden. He says he regards himself primarily as an unaccompanied singer, despite his membership of Bellowhead, but insists that A Folk Song a Day is a serious effort to raise the profile of social singing. He has also launched a monthly Saturday night folk club encompassing an informal singaround at his own local, the Royal Hotel in Dungworth, which is already embedded in folk music lore as one of the South Yorkshire pubs maintaining a unique local carol-singing tradition of songs exclusive to the area. "The Dungworth carol singing is extraordinary, but it shouldn't be extraordinary," says Boden. "People who wouldn't do it in any other context go to the pub at Christmas and sing those songs properly – really, really loud. But then you get to the end of the carol season and you think, 'Why the hell don't we do this all year?'" So he decided he would do it all year – and the Dungworth experiment seems to be working as villagers with no interest in the formal folk song movement descend on the bar to exercise their lungs on a round of populist chorus songs, such as The Larks They Sang Melodious and others that have made early appearances on Boden's site. "I'd love to see more singing sessions in pubs – ideally unaccompanied – without the pub getting freaked out," Boden says. "The biggest challenge is to get a pub to turn the TV or jukebox off, but the chance is there to find a common cause because pubs are under so much threat. Some people feel uncomfortable – they think their space is being invaded, and if you suddenly enter a random pub and burst into song you're more likely to be thrown out than be bought a drink. I've certainly been told to shut up on occasions. You have to get people used to the idea. It's not the fault of the song, it's the fault of lack of song. People get paranoid about singing in public and I think it stems from parents telling their children they can't sing. It happens a lot. You wouldn't tell someone they have an awful talking voice or they have bad breath, but there seems to be no problem in telling someone they can't sing." There's no shortage of scientific research to support his theory that social singing is good for body and soul. Professor Graham Welch, the chair of music education at the Institute of Education in London, declares that everyone has the ability to sing and, irrespective of quality, it enhances our mood and reduces stress. "The health benefits of singing are both physiological and psychological," he says. "Music is very good for every aspect of you as a human." One unlikely convert to the power of social singing is Brian Eno, who hosts regular a cappella singing sessions at his London studio with friends, who have included Paul McCartney. "It's all about the immersion of the self into the community and that's one of the greatest feelings," he says. "I stop being 'me' for a little while and become 'us', and that way lies empathy, the great social virtue." Yet the only public places you can have a good sing without risking ridicule or abuse are either churches or football grounds. Boden is an atheist who doesn't like football so he's opted instead for the pub-singing option and A Folk Song a Day podcasts. There were 6,000 hits for his opening rendition of The Larks They Sang Melodious, and interest has grown rapidly since, sparking lively debate on the comment pages, especially over his recent inclusion of Mercedes Benz, a gospel pastiche written by Janis Joplin, Michael McClure and Bob Neuwirth. Joplin sang it unaccompanied, and although Boden paradoxically adds a mournful concertina, he's happy to classify it as a folk song. "I learned it as a folk song at Forest School camps before I'd ever heard the Janis Joplin version," he says, amused by the fuss its inclusion has caused. "People criticise me for doing that but don't bat an eyelid about the Kipling-Peter Bellamy songs I have done." He's got a whole year of this and knows that tougher terrain lies ahead, especially as his repertoire extends to only 200 songs and he'll need to learn more by next spring. There are also the practical problems involved in making daily recordings during forthcoming extensive tours with both Bellowhead and his other band, the Remnant Kings. "I should have got an iPhone when I had the chance. I might have to borrow one to record stuff when we're on the road. But it's really interesting and it's nice not to have to worry about commercial pressures. Apparently I'm No 1 in the music podcast charts. I've no idea what that means but it sounds good." Jon Boden can be heard daily on afolksongaday.com |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Roberto Date: 29 Jul 10 - 09:32 AM The Folk Song a Day has become a very special daily date. So many excellent recordings, from the Banks of Red Roses to the Rain it Rains. It is an amazing present, I do thank Jon Boden. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Phil Edwards Date: 29 Jul 10 - 09:16 AM I don't want to complain about someone complaining about someone complaining, but I think that's a bit of an over-reaction. Jon said at the start of the project that the bulk of the songs on this site are songs that I sing unaccompanied. and I have always thought of myself as first and foremost an unaccompanied singer so it was quite a shock to me to realise that, although I have now made 10 albums, I have never included a solo unaccompanied track on any of them. so I don't think it was unreasonable for some of us to express a bit of disappointment when Jon posted up a series of accompanied songs - particularly when we've also praised the stuff we liked. But really I'm just posting this to refresh the thread and draw attention to the site, and that rendition of Child Morris in particular. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: GUEST,Ralphie Date: 29 Jul 10 - 07:47 AM It's really rather depressing to read some comments on this thread. It's a free world guys. If Jon wants to set up a website and sing a song a day, why not? What harm is it doing? If you don't like it, don't listen. It's very simple. To those people who are telling him to do more electric stuff, or strictly accapella. Tough. It's his project, and he will do what he feels is appropriate. As some have said, Jon is doing sterling work for the community in the part of the world he lives in, alongside his more high profile work with his various bands. So, I applaud the idea behind this song-a-day project. How many of you would attempt it? Not me, that's for sure. And as for saying that it's all about publicity, well. Don't make me laugh. You obviously don't know Jon. If you don't like Jons voice, Don't listen. It's that easy |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Phil Edwards Date: 29 Jul 10 - 06:26 AM Jon's given us a terrific Child Morris today. Listen! |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 24 Jul 10 - 04:46 PM frsh |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Artful Codger Date: 17 Jul 10 - 01:53 AM Does EFDSS have a more central page linking to the relevant note pages, one that folks can create a static bookmark for, instead of having to search separately for each song? |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Geoff the Duck Date: 16 Jul 10 - 05:32 PM Info about getting the podcasts HERE. If you want to download the podcasts they are at http://www.afolksongaday.com/podcast/podcast_feed.xml. To automatically download the MP3 files you need a PodCatcher programme. iTunes is one, but there are others such as Juice which is easy to install and use. What you do is copy the address then paste it into your "Catcher" in the bit that adds new podcast feeds. You will probably find it is set to start downloading from the next day, so may have to click some selection boxes to get older podcasts, but once clicked, you should be able to collect all that haven't reached their expiry date. Quack! GtD. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 16 Jul 10 - 03:43 PM Regards "Mr Echo" you need to swap an 's' for the 'r' there. But anyhoo, I wasn't aware that the songs could be downloaded, I'll keep that in mind for any songs I might fancy learning. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: JohnB Date: 16 Jul 10 - 03:12 PM Just echoing Mr Echo, that is exactly what I read on the site too. I appear to have 23 songs right now. JohnB |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: The Borchester Echo Date: 16 Jul 10 - 08:01 AM how long will this collection remain on the web For a month, I think. But you can download them into iTunes. Then, if you can't be arsed to burn the tracks yourself, Navigator will be flogging CDs of each month's output once completed. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: GUEST,Two of a Hind Date: 16 Jul 10 - 07:52 AM Question, how long will this collection remain on the web in the public domain and is there a way of dowloading the odd song onto your own PC, if there's a song you want to learn. These recordings will I believe become an incredibly valuable archive for all of us interested in this particular subject. Providing it remains accessible. Thank you Jon for the time and efford you are putting into this project, we certainly appreciate it down here in South Wales. Terry |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 12 Jul 10 - 06:46 PM 'fresh |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Desert Dancer Date: 08 Jul 10 - 11:56 AM In support of Jon's project, EFDSS is providing some notes on the songs (starting with yesterday's) at this page. ~ Becky in Long Beach |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: GUEST,mattkeen Date: 07 Jul 10 - 10:26 AM Great - JB is a real gem He obviously has no trouble expressing all the muscial facets of his personality in differing styles. Long may he continue Thanks John |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 06 Jul 10 - 03:35 PM Glad to hear JB is still doing unaccompanied songs here :) |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 06 Jul 10 - 03:30 PM 'fresh |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: mikesamwild Date: 03 Jul 10 - 05:59 AM Crow Sister, all I meant was that if a high profile person like Jon sings songs they can become the versions other people who don't bother to do any seeking out of source singers or versions local to them, adopt. I think Jon has developed well beyond his early Bellamnite style and has found his own unique voice, and has taken risks doing it. I go to sessions where he sings and plays and rate what he and Fay and friends are doing for communal singing . They are putting in a lot of hard work locally. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Phil Edwards Date: 03 Jul 10 - 04:57 AM Yes - he did say the best social singing is, in my experience, unaccompanied and because of that the bulk of the songs on this site are songs that I sing unaccompanied. In the 60's and 70's the status of unaccompanied singing was much higher within the folk scene, and most of my favourite albums from the revival are albums where the majority of the material is unaccompanied. This approach has fallen out of fashion and the commercial pressure is for modern day 'folk artists' to have, at most, one or two unaccompanied tracks on their albums, if at all. I have always thought of myself as first and foremost an unaccompanied singer so it was quite a shock to me to realise that, although I have now made 10 albums, I have never included a solo unaccompanied track on any of them. To be fair, the first seven (of ten) were all unaccompanied - maybe the current run of three will be a blip. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Artful Codger Date: 02 Jul 10 - 05:39 PM It's disappointing to see how quickly Jon has abandoned his stated "unaccompanied" focus--within the first week! Is it too challenging just to sing, without artificial support? Does he need to add something because his approach to these songs is too homogenous? If so, I'd rather have him introduce variety by spotlighting other unaccompanied singers. Stick to the program: no instruments! These songs survived decades, even centuries, without them. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Phil Edwards Date: 29 Jun 10 - 04:13 AM It's fantastic stuff - good singing, well-recorded, plenty of it and free! Much kudos to Jon for doing it. I'm looking forward to the back end of the year - he's already introduced me to a couple of songs. (But I do think he overdoes the Lloyd/Bellamy vibrato a bit.) |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Tootler Date: 28 Jun 10 - 07:05 PM You do spout some rubbish, Lizzie. Listen again to Earl Richard. That's quality if ever there was and just the simple, unadorned human voice. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: GUEST Date: 28 Jun 10 - 01:24 PM Elsewhere, Electric Jon seems to be bleating up a storm singing about My Analogue Desk's Better Than Your Digital One |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: GUEST,Stephen W Date: 28 Jun 10 - 01:07 PM I'm enjoying listening to these unaccompanied pieces. Jon's diction is so clear that I can hear every word. Listen to "Earl Richard", it's a lovely, spooky, mysterious song. Some people don't recognise a Good Thing when they see it! |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden Folk song per day From: GUEST Date: 28 Jun 10 - 11:51 AM And on top of his repertoire of around 240 songs he has another 120+ to find and record!! |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 Jun 10 - 04:57 PM Sigh. I wish there were things we were still allowed to say. :D (eG) |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 27 Jun 10 - 04:51 PM Hehe! Thanks for the blast LC! Love to hear Jon doing *that* unaccompanied Traddie stylee, bleats and all. Heh, come to think of it 'beats and bleats' sounds like a possible fusion... |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 27 Jun 10 - 04:35 PM Nope, I'm not saying that at all, person who I can't refer to 'cos man whom I also can't refer to won't let me, on pain of possible death from being tied to a WMD and fired to the moon and back...LOL What I'm saying is that when he's Electric Jon he sounds normal. When he turns into Traddie Jon he comes over all Woefully Warbly Rustic. Peter Bellamy did exactly the same thing..wobblewobblewarblewarblebleatwobble..I'm not having a go at the songs they sing, just the silly voices they use to sing 'em in. Electric Jon should sing this one..bet he'd do it brilliantly..good social message in it too. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 27 Jun 10 - 02:36 PM "Jon REALLY needs to break right away from all The Luvvies wot surround him" I sorta thought singing on his own without anything or anyone else supporting him, pretty much covered that one! "none of the stranglededly strange sheep bleatingly awful sounds that come with his Traddie music..." I don't think his singing is basically any different to that when he's being supported by instruments. Are you saying that Jon can't sing Lizzie, and that he only sounds good when he's drowned out by other stuff? |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden: 'A Folk Song A Day' blog From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 27 Jun 10 - 02:10 PM Electric Jon's Myspace Ya know, Jon REALLY needs to break right away from all The Luvvies wot surround him...and do what he's best at, and that' Electric Folk and Rock music, with none of the stranglededly strange sheep bleatingly awful sounds that come with his Traddie music... Electric Jon's Myspace Jon, do what comes *naturally*! It sounds soooooo much better.. |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden Folk song per day From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 27 Jun 10 - 11:52 AM Oh and I meant to quote this bit from his blog which I rather liked: "afolksongaday.com is an opportunity for me to record my whole repertoire of songs without worrying about making any of them commercial, stylistically original, or fitting them in to a particular album concept." |
Subject: RE: Jon Boden Folk song per day From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 27 Jun 10 - 11:49 AM "could it lead to a 'standardistion' process?" Perhps you could say more? I'm not exactly sure what it is you're suggesting.. Standardisation of what? Standards on other internet spaces where you have 'virtual singarounds/sessions' so to speak? For me, I think it's great that a pro. folk performer is putting himself 'out there' in a naked fashion. Especially as (IMO) there's nothing more musically exposing, than the unadorned voice. |
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