BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 10:09 AM

Dave,
. Those who are not willing to wash their dirty linen in public cannot hide it any longer and, as you have very ably pointed out, are now suffering the consequences of trying to hide their sordid little secrets.

What are you referring to now?
No "sordid secrets" have been revealed to my knowledge. You are making shit up again.

Jim,
Mor denials and more inhumanity
Your poisonous postings.....

More baseless claims about me that you can not substantiate with quotes because they are just more lies.

youe made-up accusations just cover (in this case) the Labour members

I just repeated what Labour insiders themselves have said.

You have denbied serial abuse by politiciacians, ignored cover-ups

I have not. You just lie and lie.
If you are not a filthy liar, quote me doing theses things.

You blame the victims and not the perpetrators -

I have never done that.
More filthy lies from a filthy liar.
If you are not a filthy liar, quote me doing theses things.

You refuse to respond to argument, then dishonestly, claim there has been none (as here)

If that is not a lie, put the argument up again and I promise to respond to it.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 09:19 AM

Mor denials and more inhumanity
Your poisonous postings carefully exclude the greatest perpetrators and youe made-up accusations just cover (in this case) the Labour members
You have denbied serial abuse by politiciacians, ignored cover-ups and "lost" research resukts
You blame the victims and not the perpetrators - you virtually have in every single topic we have argued on and have invented and surrounded yourself with an invisible army to misinterpret and distort so you don't have to take responsibility for your obscene and often illegal claims - "it's not me, somebody else told me it was true" (as here)
You refuse to respond to argument, then dishonestly, claim there has been none (as here)
You are a moral mess on a sordid crusade
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 09:12 AM

Don't bother, Jim. Everyone else understands that any organisation that encourages victims of abuse to come forward will always have a high incidence of open and honest public criticism. Those who are not willing to wash their dirty linen in public cannot hide it any longer and, as you have very ably pointed out, are now suffering the consequences of trying to hide their sordid little secrets. You will never change Keith's views. It is really not worth the time and effort.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 09:08 AM

Jim, I have posted nothing here that any decent person could object to.
If you challenge that, produce a quote.

PFR, I do not share the far left politics of you and your friends.
My posts reflect that, but there is no "poison" in them.
My views are actually mainstream. You will find nothing from me that is not mainstream.
You are the extremists.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 08:34 AM

"Do you not sympathise with those victims of sexual harassment and bullying?"
You seem to be inacpable of distinguishing between "sympathising" and "cynically using" as is your wont
Abused children to besmirch Muslims, a few Traveller criminals to denigrate the entire community, "brainwashed" Irish children to smear the Irish people.
You have even blamed the British electorate for the Government's bribing the DUP
Each time, when challenged, you scurry behind somebody else and blame them for your obnoxiously inhuman views
You have been answered here over and over again and all you can respond with is denials - if you claim otherwise you are lying - as you do frequently
Your message is plain - if the rich and famous do it, then it isn't rape or harassement
Added to which - "Labour bad, Tories, Ukip, the BNP and every other right wing goose-stepper good"
Go find a beer-garden and hold a rally
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 07:41 AM

That is not true though.
You people just say things like that to justify not replying to me, when the fact is that you have no reply.
I have said nothing here that has not been said by Labour insiders.
How can you object to that?
Do you not sympathise with those victims of sexual harassment and bullying?
Should they not be heard? They never would be if it was up to you people.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 07:40 AM

TIME FOR ONE OF THESE, I THINK !
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 05:41 AM

It is you that cannot engage in civil discussion Keith. It was summed up perfectly before

all your contributions below the line these days are agenda-laden pure poison

Everyone knows it and anyone with any sense is no longer falling for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 05:34 AM

Steve, you know I refute those years old false accusations.

Do you challenge anything I have posted on this?
If not, why all the abuse?
If you do, identify it for discussion.

Why can you people not engage in civil discussion?

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 05:00 PM

I'm trying to help him, Dave. I'm like that tha knows...

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 04:43 PM

Steve,you rascal :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 04:33 PM

"No-one has found a single fault in anything I have posted..."

What a rather vulgar and largely fraudulent thing to say, Keith. I know it is because Geoffrey Wheatcroft told me so. I also seem to remember a little porkie about only Dublin and the EU wanting a hard border. And what was that about the soaring pound...? And Nigel Farage never lies...

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 02:12 PM

Life really is too short lads
Stop persecuting the afflicted - he'll be blaming Corbyn and the Labour Party for that next - he's exhausted everything else
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 01:26 PM

Keith - ..a bit like haemoroids...

When they shrink and disappear, I so quickly readjust to normal pain free life,
I'm too busy enjoying the breath of fresh sunny air to even think about missing them..

But then they eventually come back with a vengeance....

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 01:22 PM

I seem to recall that 40 conservative MP's had had allegations made against them, as opposed to 4 Labour MP's. Now if 2 more have been added to the Labour ranks it would still seem to be a far bigger problem within the conservative party.

This point has been totally ignored by some.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 01:19 PM

Funny thing is, while Keith was away I hadn't really noticed.. but now he's back, I certainly have...!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 01:16 PM

Really Keith stuff too. See other thread for response.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 01:14 PM

Really weird stuff lads.

Strangely, after all that weirdness, you have not addressed one single point that has been made on the thread subject.

Will you?
Can you?
Clearly, no.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 12:26 PM

"Is that how you see me?"
A screaming meglonmanic killer with an Oedipus complex - that just about sums it up
"I am flattered."
So you should be - that's fairly mild compared to the bad things I attribute to you
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 10:24 AM

I apologise to all, apart from Keith who deserves it, for having to put up with my language above. I shall desist forthwith and restrict myself to non offensive responses. I still have the same views about Keith and his narcissistic personality disorder but you should not all have to put up with my frustration at his devious and malicious ways.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 10:06 AM

You wouldn't know an appropriate analogy if it painted itself blue and sang the appropriate analogy anthem while biting your balls.

Simpering odorous slugfucker

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 10:02 AM

A goblin crashes and burns.
An appropriate analogy indeed Dave.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 09:47 AM

Who has lost Dave?

Gollum won his precious so I guess everyone else lost...

Dribbling ulcerous fuckwit

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 09:42 AM

Dave,
You lose!

Who has lost Dave?
Certainly not me. No-one has found a single fault in anything I have posted, and you are all incapable of challenging any of my actual posts!

Repeating as yet unproven accusations is errant nonsense.

Of course it is not!
If Labour members are making false accusations of sexual misconduct against each other, that is itself an issue.

The accusations are a hard fact.
That is a serious issue for the Party whether they are true or not.

Other parties do not seem to have it to anything like the same extent.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 09:39 AM

Repeating as yet unproven accusations is errant nonsense.

Of course it is not!<.i>

Oh yes it is!

He's behind you!

Blithering crusty bellend.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 09:38 AM

"Jim, your link is to James Cagney in White Heat - Top of the World.

Is that the ego Dave is feeding?
Is that how you see me?
I am flattered."

you sure about that flattery...???

Considering multiple 'rumours' of Cagney serial seducing young male acting hopefuls...?????

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 09:35 AM

Dave,
Repeating as yet unproven accusations is errant nonsense.

Of course it is not!
If Labour members are making false accusations of sexual misconduct against each other, that is itself an issue.

The accusations are a hard fact.
That is a serious issue for the Party whether they are true or not.

Other parties do not seem to have it to anything like the same extent.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 09:33 AM

I think it is more like this.

You lose!

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 09:29 AM

Jim, your link is to James Cagney in White Heat - Top of the World.

Is that the ego Dave is feeding?
Is that how you see me?
I am flattered.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 09:29 AM

Repeating as yet unproven accusations is errant nonsense.

Blinkered turdbending monkeywaker

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 09:26 AM

Dave,
There is no counter argument to errant nonsense.

I suppose not, but I have just repeated accusations from within Labour by your fellow Party members.
How is that "errant nonsense?"

Obviously it is not. You just have no reply to it.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 08:50 AM

THIS IS THE EGO YOU ARE FEEDING DAVE
Time for us to roll and go
It's time for us to leave him
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 08:46 AM

There is no counter argument to errant nonsense.

Bollock brained snotgobbler

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 08:39 AM

Another vacuous, random post, and not one offers a counter argument because none of you have one.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 08:28 AM

Goat blowing dipshit

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 08:25 AM

Three more posts, and not one offers a counter argument because none of you have one.

I post hard facts, you lot just trivial abuse.

Lads, lads, lads. Just ignore him.

Yes. Scuttle back into hiding little mice.
The cat is back.

What a pathetic lot you are.
Oh dear oh dear.
Ha ha ha.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 07:06 AM

Not sure what to do for the best as I am no psychiatrist. Reasoning is impossible. The direct approach does not work. Abuse is water of a ducks back as I guess he must have become accustomed to it if he acts like he does here in real life. The inbred llama sucker has a real problem.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 06:47 AM

Leave him lads - this is no longer abour sexual impropriety - just about "Tories good- Labour bad"
Any moron who picks woman who MP who suddenly discovers she has been "bullied" in the past after she has been suspended for her own behaviour cannot be the brightest starfish in the sand-bucket
Let him live with his resentment that he was never invited to the Dolphin Square rape-ups
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 06:40 AM

Go and find yourself a nice rest home.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 06:34 AM

Filthy liar Jim,
Welcome back with your pervy support of the Prominent Perves Keith -

It is a vicious, nasty lie to say I have supported any kind of pervert.
I never have. You are just a vile and filthy liar.

If you are not, find a quote, liar.

Dave,

You know, I think he really believes that I take him seriously.

You do Dave.
You must because I have said nothing that has not been said by your fellow party members.
Your own political comrades Dave.
Do you not take them seriously?

What about Jim's whopping lies.
Do you take him seriously Dave?
You have not uttered a word of criticism, but you must know his claim of proven cases was a whopping lie, as are his false accusations against me.

Steve,
You're sick, Keith.

Just vacuous abuse Steve.
You have not, and can not, challenge anything I have said.
Can you Steve?

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 06:07 AM

Lads, lads, lads. Just ignore him. Let him believe he is 'winning' something. Just think of it as care in the community.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 05:58 AM

You're sick, Keith.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 05:53 AM

Welcome back with your pervy support of the Prominent Perves Keith -
I sincerely hope your behaviour wil be treated with the contempt you have earned for it
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 05:52 AM

I see the great whinging wazzock is back.

Ignore him and he might go away. Though I doubt it somehow.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 05:40 AM

While the cat was away you all came out to play.

Dave,
The more you draw attention to the deceitful activities of this and previous governments, Jim, the more their sympathisers squeal

If you meant me Dave, you lie.
I have not sympathised with or defended anyone.

I have just repeated accusations made by party members, and pointed out Jim's whopping lie that there are proven cases of rape and paedophilia against Prime Ministers and othe government "high ups."

Was that not a whopping lie?
Anyone found a single example yet?

Meanwhile, female Labour Shadow Cabinet Minister Debbie Abrahams claims she has been the victim of a “bullying culture of the worst kind” from the party .

Meanwhile, another Labour shadow minister has been accused of “slapping” the buttocks of a female party member and making offensive sexual remarks about her. A witness told the Financial Times that those present were shocked to have seen Karl Turner, Labour’s transport spokesman, “slap” a woman’s backside as she walked through his constituency office in the summer of 2015.The witnesses have also alleged the MP for Hull East told the woman, who had had a double mastectomy, that she “shouldn’t have got rid of her real tits because they were great”.

Meanwhile, Labour has stepped up its investigations into two MPs accused of sexual harassment.
The cases of Ivan Lewis and Kelvin Hopkins have both been referred to an internal disciplinary committee.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 09:26 AM

Lovely piece by The Flying Rodent. One particular line is, I believe, particularly relevant here.

Repeating Yourself Isn't The Same As Winning

Enjoy.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 04:21 PM

:-D

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 04:03 PM

"What's the point of rhetorical questions..?"
Why do you ask!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 01:35 PM

What's the point of rhetorical questions..?

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 01:33 PM

Rhetorical question Raggy!
Jim