BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: X
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 04:55 PM

I've fought side by side with Legionaries and most were French, as were all the officers.

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: GUEST,Jenny the T
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 04:45 PM

The Foreign Legion's officers are all French, and they are a part of France's armed forces, hence the term "French."

Foreign Legion aside, then French armed forces are no more cowards than any other nation's. They got their wee arses whupped in 1940 because of incompetent leadership and pie-in-the-sky planning--can you spell "Maginot line?"

Leno's a dickhead, pure and simple. He's proved it to me many a time, and now he's proved it again.

JtT

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 04:26 PM

Clinton Hammond said.

Sept 10th... major changes coming to the world but over all, everything stays the same...

Not to belittle the personl horror experienced by anyone involved in the destrucion and death of sept 11th, but life goes on eh... Ya gonna let what happend that day taint the whole rest of your life???

I don't believe taint is the right word, but I don't think I'll ever enjoy a joke like that one again. I don't think it serves anyone to call the present day French cowards because of actions 60 years ago. I didn't feel that way before Sept. 11. I do now.

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: jeffp
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 03:58 PM

The men of the French Foreign Legion are not French. Hence the term, "Foreign."

jeffp

Subject: *sigh*
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 03:55 PM

Sept 10th... major changes coming to the world but over all, everything stays the same...

The most accurate horoscope ever...

Not to belittle the personl horror experienced by anyone involved in the destrucion and death of sept 11th, but life goes on eh... Ya gonna let what happend that day taint the whole rest of your life???

This goes right along with the thread from a couple of weeks ago regarding censoring the music you play with regards to the bullshit of sept 11th or the crap in N. Ireland or whatever...

Don't let the zealots win! Keep doin' whatever it is you do...

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: X
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 03:52 PM

The men of The French Foreign Legion have never surrendered. They will and have fought to the last man. History has already proven that.

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: paddymac
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 03:42 PM

Sometimes we all forget that it is important to distinguish been a people and their government(s). Seems like that is de rigour at the moment in discussions about Afghanastan. I don't think the average American thinks poorly of the French, but in a polyglot, multi-cultural society like ours, they are the butt of their "fair share" of jokes. Jokes are jokes, even when stupid and done in poor taste. It sounds to me like Leno made himself the butt of the joke, though probably unaware of doing it. Never much cared for him anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 03:33 PM

Jay who?

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: SharonA
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 03:33 PM

Yeah, Jack, I saw that last night too, and must agree that it was in very poor taste (as are quite a few of Leno's jokes). I rarely watch Leno except for the occasional Monday night in the fall when ABC's Monday Night Football pushes "Nightline" and "Politically Incorrect" back past my usual bedtime.

Leno tells jokes like my brother does: he repeats and explains the punchline while the audience applauds the first telling of the joke. It drives me crazy. The only part of Leno's show I enjoy is the "Headlines" bit, but unfortunately I have to suffer through the monologue first. If I found Letterman any funnier, I'd watch his monologue instead, but I think they're equally unamusing.

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 03:10 PM

Leno just reads the jokes his writers supply, and they're careful to make sure that the "victims" have no political clout.

Can you just IMAGINE what would happen if he started one off with:

"This Muslim terrorist, Israeli terrorist, American terrorist and Irish terrorist walk into a bar.......

The French have been gettin' it for years, and nowhere as much as in my all-time favourite "funny" show, "Yes Minister". I really wish that more Americans had a chance to see that show. It runs (it's twenty years old) periodically here in Canada, and can cause you to actually go into hysterics for minutes on end. The best description of it I can give anyone who hasn't seen it is, just picture what Bush, Rumsfeld, Ari Fleischer etc. discuss when the cameras are OFF!

Rick

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: JedMarum
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 03:09 PM

agreed Jack, sounds like Leno's comment was bad judgement and made in poor taste

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 03:07 PM

I understand what you are saying Clinton, But Grounds Keeper Willie was not speaking with respect to Sept 11. Sept. 10 I might have told the same joke. Now it doesn't feel right. I don't believe that anyone on Earth believes that a French soldier is any more likely to surrender than any other. The French contingant is a few hundred soldiers Uncle Sam won't have to send overseas. Leno's attitude is condescending and smacks of ingratitude. I hope it does not reflect or influence the opinions of many of Mr. Leno's fellow citizens.

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: JedMarum
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 02:56 PM

Letterman's better anyway ...

Subject: Jay Leno
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 02:42 PM

Oh please... It's a joke... Not that I've had much use for The Tonight Show ever...

but yer reading WAY too much into it...

"Booooooonnnnnjour! Ya cheese eatin' surrender monkeys"
--Groundskeeper Willie, "The Simpsons"--

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 02:39 PM

One more reason not to watch him.

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 02:37 PM

I never watch him, anyway, but that sounds terrible and I agree with you. It sounds as though it was in very poor taste.

Subject: RE: BS: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon.
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 02:21 PM

No, you're not alone. Ever since 11 September, Jay Leno makes me cringe. Before that, he just bored me to tears.

Subject: Jay Leno, bigoted buffoon?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Nov 01 - 02:19 PM

I may not watch Jay Leno again. Last night he announced that the French had sent troops to Afghanistan to teach the Taleban "surrendering techniques" Considering that he was talking about young men gone to risk their lives in a war zone, talking about one of his country's "Allies", the "joke" was in very poor taste.

Am I alone in feeling this way? Are WWII stereotypes applicable in 2001??