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BS: Is 9/11 overworked?

Liz the Squeak 13 Sep 02 - 02:55 PM
Clinton Hammond 13 Sep 02 - 02:47 PM
Allan Dennehy 13 Sep 02 - 02:45 PM
Amos 13 Sep 02 - 02:44 PM
skarpi 13 Sep 02 - 02:41 PM
Clinton Hammond 13 Sep 02 - 02:36 PM
McGrath of Harlow 13 Sep 02 - 02:31 PM
Liz the Squeak 13 Sep 02 - 02:31 PM
Clinton Hammond 13 Sep 02 - 02:26 PM
toadfrog 13 Sep 02 - 02:14 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Is 9/11 overworked?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 02:55 PM

So the destruction at Lockerbie didn't give anyone ideas then.... 24 years ago, half the village was destroyed by that plane exploding in mid flight by terrorist action, it was only a matter of time before someone put it all together. I hope there will be as much hype and media attention this December 21st.

There aren't enough days in the year to remember all those whose lives have been destroyed, disrupted or affected by terrorism. We should be remembering ALL of them, millions of them, from all countries of the world, not just the few.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Is 9/11 overworked?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 02:47 PM

"prior to 9-11, most people did not think of jetliners as weapons of mass destruction"

How could ya not? Look at the damage they do when they fall out of the sky by accident...

but I'm curious to see what McGrath has to say on the matter...


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Subject: RE: BS: Is 9/11 overworked?
From: Allan Dennehy
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 02:45 PM

Toadfrog, you wrote your piece in such a reasonable and contemplative way that I don't think you'll offend a lot of people. I think that you brought up a fair point and expressed it well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is 9/11 overworked?
From: Amos
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 02:44 PM

Sunday evening on UK terrestrial TV,

Liz -- you get extraterrestrial TV over there??? I'm coming over!!

Clinton: It may have escaped your attention that prior to 9-11, most people did not think of jetliners as weapons of mass destruction. Maybe you did, but you are one in a million if so. That's why!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Is 9/11 overworked?
From: skarpi
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 02:41 PM

Halló all , Maybe the UN should have a memorial day for all those people over the world witch had died In wars, disaster´s from mother earth and other´s advence´s??, and why not why have all kinds a days that we remember of , then we have years of that and this . Yes I think people should talk more about the (other people that are haveing a bad things around the them ) and Tv and radio should also talk more abou it. Well the people are having bad things at their home more than less of a small group of bad people who drive their live on war . All the best skarpi Iceland.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is 9/11 overworked?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 02:36 PM

"One thing that's chamged is that every time I look up and an airliner is flying across the sky it is completely different from the way it used to be."

Really?

why?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is 9/11 overworked?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 02:31 PM

One thing that's chamged is that every time I look up and an airliner is flying across the sky it is completely different from the way it used to be. What that must be like for people who were directly involved in this is hard to bear thinking about.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is 9/11 overworked?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 02:31 PM

Correct. It is offensive to some, and no, you aren't wrong.

It was the same on TV, Sunday evening on UK terrestrial TV, there were 3 out of 5 channels showing programmes dedicated to 11/09/01.

It's another example of the media picking on one 'story' and doing it to death. The UK media has been guilty of this a lot this year. Take the 2 girls who vanished recently, and were later found dead. In the interval between their disappearance and their discovery, the media did not let up one single day, not one single hour it seemed. Yet how many other children have vanished from their homes never to be seen again? How many others have been abused, beaten and killed this year?

We have a case now, of a 2 yr old who was tortured, abused and starved in this area of East London, discovered dying last January. Where was her media cover? Where are the multi thousand pound rewards for the capture of her killers? The killers were there all the time, because they were her parents. I haven't seen any front page screamers about her case, except for the local paper.

I sometimes wonder if the fact that she was black and from a fairly deprived area as opposed to being white and from a middle class, middle England village has anything to do with it.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Is 9/11 overworked?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 02:26 PM

I don't think yer all that far off the mark TF...


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Subject: Is 9/11 overworked?
From: toadfrog
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 02:14 PM

For a full week on NPR there was nothing whatsoever to be heard but reflections on the World Trade Center disaster. Did television do the same thing? Does it seem that this is too much? Someone mentioned that one year after Peal Harbor, the bombing was commemorated by a moment of silence and the tooting of a whistle, and not much more.

One day after the bombing, all the pundits were saying it was a "defining moment" and that the world would never be the same. I personally have not noticed the world changing all that much. It has been my observation that people are changed by their own experiences over a prolonged time. The Depression, World War II, and the Vietnam war really changed people's attitudes. Disasters change the world for people who experience them.

Perhaps I am an old curmudgeon. But to me it seems like a great nation so sunk in self-pity and self-congratulation is maybe a bit decadent.

The disaster was terrible. All disasters are terrible, especially for those who experience them. But disasters also happen every day. Much worse things have happened in our lifetimes. For example, in Ruanda, and at Bhopal, and in Bosnia. No one has ever said Bhopal is "hallowed ground." Really horrible things are perpetrated every day Israel. Real people are dying in Afghanistan. Maybe that's war. Maybe it is inevitable. But those people are just as human as the ones in the World Trade Center. Have we completely lost our sense of proportion?

I'm sure what I've just said will be offensive. But am I wrong?


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