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Review: A Mighty Wind

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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: JJ
Date: 21 Apr 03 - 08:49 AM

After seeing A MIGHTY WIND I went over to Rotten Tomatoes to check out the reviews. Most of them were favorable but clueless. A lot of people thought Mitch and Mickey were Sonny and Cher. One compared the Folksmen to the Chad Mitchell Trio, "only more political," which is wrong in so many ways I won't even go into it.

One mentioned that Ed Begley Jr.'s character was Swedish, with a penchant for dropping phrases in a foreign language into his conversation. Yes, that foreign language is Yiddish, and if you don't get the joke, go order a pastrami on Wonder Bread.

Another thought it was howlingly funny that the venue should be named "Town Hall," a brilliant stroke of satire. Uhh, Town Hall's a real place, 123 W. 43rd St., NYC. (Although the interiors in the film were shot at the Orpheum in LA, I believe.)

Most of the reviewers took it for granted that there was no more folk music of any sort being done anywhere, although one allowed that occasionally one of the old-timers would release a CD. I, on the other hand, was dumbfounded to find myself in a theatre in New York City with so many young people in the audience, even though they didn't laugh at Ramblin' Sandy Pitnick.

For those who enjoyed it, visit the website: http://amightywindonline.warnerbros.com/index.php

This features bios, album covers and lyrics, plus music and video clips. I was unable to appreciate the true awful genius of the lyrics without reading them.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Apr 03 - 09:40 AM

My recommendation is to wait until it comes out on video/DVD. It is one of those films I wanted to see, but was disappointing, hence I felt robbed for paying $8.00 to see it, when I could have it for less than half that price when it gets released (which from the way it is bombing at the box office, will be soon) on video.

I think Spinal Tap, Best in Show, and Waiting for Guffman were all about equally good. A Mighty Wind isn't on a par with those three films, IMO.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: denise:^)
Date: 18 Apr 03 - 11:30 PM

I hear you, Charley--
I'm trying to keep my eyes open here in Michigan, too, so it doesn't come and go before I find out where it is!

Denise:^)


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Charley Noble
Date: 18 Apr 03 - 04:00 PM

Sure, we'll get one day, at least, to see this film here in Maine in about a year. I can hardly wait. In the meantime there's always another action/murder/rape/whatever film to watch.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: open mike
Date: 18 Apr 03 - 01:51 PM

hope to see this soon-
refreshing this thread to keep both
mighty wind threads together at the top!


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: PoppaGator
Date: 17 Apr 03 - 10:36 AM

That hoky folk scene of the Kingston Trio era was pretty bad, all right, and an easy enough mark for satire. However, embarrassing though it may be, I have to admit that I got caught up in it at the time. I think the same must be true of *many* of us, at least those of a certain age, in the US if not elsewhere.

It wasn't long at all before I moved on to an appreciation of more "authentic" and perhaps less immediately accessibly musical traditions. However, the showbiz hootenanny phenomenon, lame though it may have been, provided multitudes with an introduction to a wide spectrum of musical traditions, which in turn led to exposure to various unfamiliar political viewpoints and unconventional cultures. All in all, a positive development.

Don't ask me why and how it suddendly burst into promience, and then just as quickly was so widely rejected in favor of the several "better," deeper, more honest musical forms to which it served as a precursor. It's a mystery, which makes a rich background for the laughs that "GUEST" [sic] et. al. are sure to provide when "Wind" finally comes too a theater near each of us.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Apr 03 - 10:08 AM

Oh! Oh! Oh!

Sounds great, but it cannot possibly surpass Spinal Tap. Nigel Tufnel remains the most classically hilarious music icon of all time, and there's SOOOOO much to make fun of in heavy metal/progressive rock.

Now that early, early 60's folk stuff (Kingston Trio, Weavers, and all those types of groups...guys in geeky suits, playing guitar & banjo)...well, you know I was really tired of that routine by the time 1963 rolled around, if not sooner. I was rescued by Joan Baez, Buffy Sainte-Marie, and Bob Dylan and carried breathlessly into the glorious realms of NEWLY written songs by totally original young people who actually had something to say about modern life, rather than just rhapsodizing over Uncle Charlie's bentwood rocker for the 800th time. Yeah! We were walking through the Gates of Eden into a social revolution.

Thank Dylan, above all others, for that.

I did like Ian & Sylvia a lot, and I remain quite respectful of the Weavers.

I look forward a lot to seeing this movie.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 17 Apr 03 - 09:22 AM

'Spaw,

I did not know that. I was closer to the bad metal band scene, and I have a sister who is an actress, I have gone to all of her plays since she studied Drama in University. I have met so many of the characters from Guffman. I will give BIS another shot, but you being a dog person would get a lot of stuff that I wouldn't.

Funny, I was still playing junior hockey when Slapshot came out, everyone was raving about it. I remember thinking, "Yeah, so?" the first time I saw it. I had seen pretty much everything in the movie in real life. It wasn't until I saw it again many years after I had stopped playing competetive hockey that I really got that they did a great job capturing the wackiness of hockey players, both on and off the ice.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Apr 03 - 09:08 AM

Could be Steve. And also, I'm a "Doggie Person" and grew up going to shows with my Dad. (BTW, didja' know the Weimaraner in BIS is the sister of what was then the top Weim in Canada?) I think too that the characters in BIS were more diverse which would only be natural....a broader cross section. It too had it's share of lines....."We could talk or not talk for hours and still find things to not talk about."

What the hell....I loved them both...and all three.....and I figure I'll love this one too.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 17 Apr 03 - 08:55 AM

'Spaw,

I can't agree with you on BIS being better than Spinal Tap. Then again, I'm younger than you, I spent my teen years surrounded by "Jimmy Page is God" guys. Guest & crew, absolutely nailed those bands. Nigel Tufnell is one of my all time favourite characters. I just found that there were way more classic lines in Tap. "You can't really dust for vomit", "there's too much dobly", "no, you can't touch it, don't even look at it", "just kick my ass", "of course we have top billing, we're on with a f@#&ing Puppet show", "Hello Cleveland", and of course "this one goes to eleven".

The visuals too, Derek getting stuck in the pod, Nigel on his knees leaning back playing his solo and getting stuck and my absolute favorite, Nigels parody of Jimmy Page's use of a violin bow. Nigel is playing his awful solo, grabs the violin and uses it as a bow on his Strat, then tunes one of the violin strings before doing it again. The first time I saw that seen I almost wet myself laughing.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Apr 03 - 08:39 AM

Two entirely different takes between Peter and Rick!! Well alright.....good to hear the diversity!

Personal opinion.......Spinal Tap isn't nearly as good as "Best in Show".......so I'm now more anxious to see this one!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Peter T.
Date: 17 Apr 03 - 08:34 AM

I really wanted to like this film a lot, but came away from it thinking it was undercooked -- about half a movie. There was so much they could have done with the idea, but really didn't. Many of the Mudcatters here could have written a funnier take on the folk scare. The nicest folkie touch in the film was the brief parody of the backyard scene in the Weavers reunion film. Some of the other kooky bits were funny (Fred and Sure-Florence). (The weird song at the end of the credits, by which time I was the only person in the theatre, was pretty good too). Not remotely in the league of Spinal Tap.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Amos
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 11:17 PM

I seriously expect this to be a hoot and a half-enanny.

As for folkies having no sense of humor, all I can say is this guy has been talking to the wrong folkies!    The position is just untenable by anyone who has skimmed through the threads in our archives here.



A


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 10:37 PM

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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Muskrat
Date: 13 Apr 03 - 11:02 PM

I don't want to use language that would upset any Mudcatters, but Hajdu's head is stuck so far up...somewhere it's dark as a dungeon.

Not only is he a humorless twit, he clearly doesn't understand what's going on. Didn't in the Farina/Dylan book, either. Maybe he was better on Billy Strayhorn (haven't read that one), but somehow I doubt it.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 13 Apr 03 - 10:16 PM

Sadly, I have to agree that so many of my folk friends over the years DON'T have (what I'd call) a good sense of humour. Deadly sincere....especially the most political folks. I'm political as well, but Jeez, there is SO MUCH IN OUR LITTLE WORLD NOT TO TAKE SERIOUSLY!

(but Seriously folks), when you go to a Festival and see "Les Barker's" name on the bill, do you not smile a bit, knowing what's in store?

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Apr 03 - 09:51 PM

If ya don't have a sense of humor, it isn't funny.

;-)

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: JJ
Date: 13 Apr 03 - 06:08 PM

David Hajdu's take on A MIGHTY WIND...

Yet another lesson that even after forty years, the Folk Movement still has no sense of humor...


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 13 Apr 03 - 01:57 PM

David Hadju's review of the parody in the NY Times today: Mighty Wind

A good send-up on the college kids and the moguls who sold and made money on the folk boom of the 1960s.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Apr 03 - 01:04 PM

This is tripe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

***BIG GRIN***

ART THIEME
----------(gotta see it for sure)


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Charley Noble
Date: 12 Apr 03 - 08:22 AM

Sounds like something I won't want to miss and being from Maine I'll probably only get one shot at seeing it!

Charley Noble, adrift in the Big Apple but leaving too soon for the opening


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Big Mick
Date: 12 Apr 03 - 07:30 AM

How come we never see any Jesuit folk singers?????????? Just folks like Seamus and meself who are all focked up by them?????

Mick


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 12 Apr 03 - 02:17 AM

Willie-O, like the great Kendall Morse, I prefer the soubriquet "entertainer." *BG*
Nope, I think you're right - once a folk singer, always a folk singer, regardless of what you call yourself.
Just like Marines and Jesuits.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 11 Apr 03 - 10:49 PM

Ooh, ooh, Ooh! (Officer Toody style)

I'm a goin' with Peter and Paul on the 16th!

Saw a fascinating interview with Eugene Levy in the paper today.

Know why he's so darn funny? He DOESN'T think the Guest movies are satire! He doesn't think the humour making fun of people!

I honestly believe that the funniest people are the ones who don't realize they're that funny. I really don't think he does...or at least he convinced me in the interview.

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Willie-O
Date: 11 Apr 03 - 06:39 PM

seamus: whaddaya mean by

I'd still be a frigging folk-singer!

Correct me if I'm wrong, I b'lieve you still are one.

If not, i guess i need a new label (for reasons mentioned earlier, so what do you call that thing that it is we do?

cheers
W-O


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 11 Apr 03 - 04:14 PM

I was a member of The East Winds in high school. Played mandolin and a little rhythm guitar with Peter Kennedy (no relation) who was a great Bert Jansch-style picker and lead vocalist/tambourinist Jim Higgins.
We recorded "Arkle" about the great Irish racehorse, in 1965 or '66 with the "Leaving Of Liverpool" on the flip side, for Outlet records in Belfast. We were paid 10 pounds each with a crate of Guinness thrown in. As high-schoolers, how could we possibly say NO to such a deal!
Every time Arkle raced, Outlet did a big promo with the single - full-color photo on the cover (the horse, not us!) with Pat Taaffe the jockey aboard. When Arkle fell and broke the pedal-bone in his foot forcing him to retire, another big promo. When the horse finally died, yet another big promotion with his photo edged in black. Outlet sold a SHITLOAD of these singles every time the horse made the headlines.
Of course, thee East Winds had broken up and left school for all of these promotions....
I remember breaking my mandolin pick at a gig one night, and because replacements were expensive in those far off days, I had to use a collar stiffener from my shirt.
And I became adept at reusing broken strings if the string broke near the bridge-saddle.
I remember having to read the graffitti on the walls in the toilets to see if we were playing in a Protestant bar or a Catholic one, because in some borderline areas, it was hard to tell.
If there was a lot of "Fuck the Queen" calligraphy, we could do rebel songs all night long, and if there was "Fuck The Pope" style hieroglyphics, we'd do middle of the road, folky, non-Nationalist material. Aaahh, if I only knew then what I know now...
I'd still be a frigging folk-singer!

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Peg
Date: 11 Apr 03 - 12:56 PM

good review, Willie-O! But I saw it before you did, nyah nyah! *grin* I especially appreciated your comments about the source material or lack thereof; it seemed to me also that there were glaring omissions in terms of historical accuracy, but I think maybe the filmmakers wanted it that way...were worried about lawsuits? had too much respect for Woody and Doc to send them up? who knows?
peg


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Willie-O
Date: 11 Apr 03 - 09:01 AM

OK folks, I GOT DIBS here-- I actually saw the movie last night!

It was a "showing" at an uptown Ottawa cinema. Warner Bros distributed a bunch of free passes to the music bizzes in town and I scored one from Rasputins.

First, sorry Rick, I don't think there'll be anything here that only you get.

Second, yes, it is REALLY FUCKING FUNNY!!!!!! Maybe there are in-jokes, but there are some showbiz types that are universally recognizable (overly self-impressed know-nothing "producers" trying to tell the actual stage crew, TV techs etc how to do their jobs).

Third, it was SO FUNNY that I continually embarrassed my better half by making snorting and gurglling noises. I was glad I didn't get a Coke, it would have all gone out my nose.

Fourth, it ain't going to do any "Oh Brother Where ARt Thou"...cause this movie has nothing to do with actual folk music, doesn't go to sources AT ALL. In short, the music sucks. It focuses exclusively on the schlocky commercialization whitebread stuff, the Kingston Trio knockoff here (the FOlksmen) make the actual Kingston Trio look like Doc Watson and Gaither Carlson in comparison. The three acts--who are hastily reassembling for a reunion concert in memory of a NY folk-record label maven "Irving Steinbloom)--have no emotional or real connection to the pseudo-folk schlock music they are performing. ("Never Did No Wandering" is an aptly titled song, pretty much sums it up.) The "Mitch and Mickey", although visually resembling Ian and Sylvia (actually only she does, dead ringer with the autoharp and all, well we only really hear one full song from them. There is no scene where they sit around and talk about their influences. Apparently they had none! There's even a Media voiceover that talks about "folk music, from its humble beginnings in the 50's..." like that was when it all started. (Yeah, yeah, I know it's satire). Nobody ever talks about Doc Watson, or Leadbelly, or Woody Guthrie, or Pete Seeger, ANYONE REAL.

Ever play in some multi-act show and were backstage and heard the band before you playing your opening number? That part rang true for me!

Definitely go see it. Controversy will rage in these pages. Is this good or bad? I think it will be a mixed blessing, but it will be nailing the coffin shut on the term "folk music" (which is still on my business card) by narrowing further the general (North American) public perception about what that was, or is. One thought that makes me shudder, is in the near future if you call yourself a folksinger, you are going to get requests to sing "A Mighty Wind" and "Never Did No Wandering." Kind of like for the theme of "Gilligan's Island". (Apparently the same guy co-wrote Gilligans and the Brady Bunch theme, and still gets a tidy 60 grand/year in royalties on those tunes...but I digress.

Punchline giveaway: The title song ends...


....


...

"There's a mighty wind that's blowing,



Blowing you and me!!!!!

(snort)
W-O


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 06:27 PM

Peter T....I used to LOVE the drawings you did of small urchins clutching valuable instruments! Their HUGE sunken eyes hungrily peering out from the black velvet backround, while their bony little fingers curled around the necks of vintage D-28s......

You DID feed them didn't you?

Ahhh yes, your Brian Epstein phase..........I thought about being a furniture salesman as well, but I knew I'd get board and pine for the fjords.

Jeez Mick, were you into those fancy names as well? What was wrong with:
The Irish Rebels
The Irish Newcomers
The Sons of Erin
The Irish Ramblers
The Irish Rovers
The Irish Rovers' DAD (!!)

I played at least a week with all of the above.

By the way....the most INTERESTING of the bands? The Dad of three of the Rovers! he had a little Showband that had played in Ireland for years before he came to Canada. Lotsa swing stuff.

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 04:55 PM

Also see 'voyager's' link to the review on THIS THREAD which is now closed. CLICK HERE FOR THE LINK TO VOYAGER'S REVIEW SITE at Rotten Tomatoes.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: fsharpdim7
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 04:38 PM

I agree that I hope this movie does not spawn some of the bad folk music of the 60's. But shouldn't promoters of good folk music use the movie to get good musicians in front of the public. I remember seeing Mississippi John on the Carson Show ih '64 - I would like to see the Berryman's on Letterman, and see some recognition (and maybe even some $$'s) for others, like Paxton, who have worked on their craft these many years.
BTW, Nanci G and Tom Russell will be on with the Dave later in the month - what I have heard of Tom's new cd is really great - have you heard the duet with Nanci G doing "the valley of Teddy Roosevelt's nose?" Great stuff from Tom again.
Chris in Chicago


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Peter T.
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 12:23 PM

I am ashamed to say that during my Brian Epstein phase (no, not that phase), I tried to get a group at my school to call themselves "The Basic Fuzz". The reason was that I had a whole group of cartoon figures (eyes with fuzz all around them, and feet) that I drew (Annie Oakfuzz with a rifle and cowgirl dress, and many more), and thought that a big fuzzball would look good on their drumkit. I even made a big circle thing with the cartoon for their kit. I had a whole campaign worked out with T shirts and everything. They didn't -- they thought I was a complete idiot (which I was) -- and their group went nowhere. I don't remember what their uninteresting name was, and they are richly deserving of their oblivion.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 11:30 AM

The Downliners Sect... band sucked as bad as the name. My buddy Al came up with it. Then there was The Greeks..............I had no idea what I was saying with that one.

I love Guest's stuff, but I absolutely refuse to watch this with Rick.....I hate it when someone gets shit that I don't.

Mick..........from the organizing hinterlands.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 10:41 AM

Think of how many "Flying people" got jokes from "Airplane" that the rest of us didn't. The Zucker Brothers threw in quite a few "in jokes".

I've watched "Spinal Tap" at least twenty times now and each time I see something else that I missed before.....but it's the same thing with the young hip guys who design computer games.

An example.

I have a great "Arnold Palmer" Golf game. Many hours of useless fun (plus I've mastered FOUR courses...take THAT Tiger!) and I marvel at the tiny details.......BUT

....BUT.....being the terminally silly person I am, I wondered what would happen if I aimed directly AT Arnold (you can play against him) and blasted him in the balls with a shot from a one iron!

It took me three tries to really nail him....but when I did, he let out with a huge "Whumphhhhhhhhh, oooooh!"

Now SOMEONE had to program that into the game.

By the way, if you do it twice in a row, Arnold just goes home...match over.

That's what I LOVE about Guest. Married to Jaimie Lee....plus the mind of a mischievous 12 year old!!!

*******************************************

The BIG battle in the "Harvesters", was NOT my kicking out a member to install my semi-talented girlfriend, but the direction the band would take. The co-leader loved the Kingston Trio, I wanted it to be more "Weavers like" and political. We weren't good enough to be either.

The band ended when we signed up for the big school auditorium show, and the band found out that I ALSO signed up for a SOLO song!!!!

They felt betrayed. They were right. I'm sorry Gordon, Janet and Michael. The debbil made me do it!

Rick


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Jeri
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 09:57 AM

I'm quite sure there WILL be jokes only Rick gets. (Whatsisface had his guitar in the little-known Sullivan tuning, EGADED, and it's funny because the character Whatsisface is sort of parodying once was told he couldn't sing his hit song "Constipation Blues" on the show. But he played a Guild, not a Martin. (Plus he had a .290 batting average in 1958)

I would love it if Pete the Spy would find Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: harvey andrews
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 09:39 AM

Rick, you can't want to see this more than me!!!! The FACT that there was a group called "The Yachtsmen" has my ribs still aching.
My college trio was called "The Ozarks" ....because that was the last mountain range no group had yet named themselves after.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: lamarca
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 09:37 AM

I've been waiting for this to come out ever since our Hollywood friend, Pete the Spy, told us it was in the works two years ago! I've loved Spinal Tap and Best in Show - haven't rented Guffman yet, but definitely will on the strength of Spaw's recommendations!

One of the reasons that Guest and companies satires have been so successful is that they DO know what they're talking about - Spinal Tap evolved out of the guys' own fooling around playing rock music, and ditto The Folksmen - Guest et al are remembering the silliness of their own experiences and incorporating them into the movies. Without this touch of affection and attention to detail, the movies wouldn't be half as funny.

How many of us have looked at our "folkie" social milieu and laughed ruefully (or cringed...) at just how odd we must appear to mundanes? It's this kind of insider/outsider comparison that makes these movies so much fun!


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 09:23 AM

Clinton, Jokes only Rick gets!!! LOL

I would love to watch Rick when he sees this movie.


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Subject: Review: 'A Mighty Wind' - FolkMusic Parody!
From: voyager
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 04:44 AM

From the makers of "This is Spinal Tap" -

Blue Clicky Thing

RottenTomatoes Review

Read "About the Movie" Section.
Release date April 16
A funny movie? - YES!

voyager
I moved this message here from another thread on the same topic.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 06:26 PM

While I think that Guest and Levy often start with a group they know is a little "stuck on itself," the end result is generally very different. For example in "Best in Show" they ended up staging their own show and everyone even slightly associated with the dogs took class in how to do ring conformation showing including pacing, lead contro; and positioning, stacking the dog, etc. This in itself is quite a bit to learn even for a movie if you intend to keep it real...and the reality is what makes it funny.   John Michael Higgins was so proficient at this that he was asked if he wanted to actually do a real show as a conformation handler and ended up winning in his breed.

Believe me when I tell you that doggie people are far more singular minded and definitely more humorless than folkies, but I don't know of one in the Weim Club or on our internet forum who didn't find BIS a riot and one of their favorite movies.

Spaw

Yeah, they're going to be poking some fun, but I think we'll find ourselves laughing right along!


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Callie
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 06:10 PM

I think the highest form of comedy is when we can laugh at ourselves. Taking potshots at other people is too cheap!

Pity the poor folk on the other side of the world who have to wait MONTHS before we get to see it! A bunch of us seriously considered buying airfares to the States to see the film ....

Callie


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 03:48 PM

Too bad Mudcat can't buy that interview!

How cool'd THAT be eh folks?!?!?!?!


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Peg
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 03:46 PM

I would have to agree I think the filmmakers/writers did a LOT of research for this! And at the very least the actors learned how to play their instruments convincingly and well...
The Folksmen will also appear on MAD TV this week...

In other news, my editor has decided that this film is not apparently worthy of any added interview material or even a review longer then 200 words (supposedly we don't have room for it), so the only bit I'll be doing will be a short, not terribly-detailed review, unless I can find another outlet to sell an interview to...


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 01:48 PM

"One wonders if "A Mighty Wind" will spark a whole new folk revival or renewed interest in The Music the way "Oh Brother..." did."

That's what I'm afraid of... a resurgance of that "Hang Down Yer Head Tom Dooly" crap, I could really do without... I have never been a fan of early 60's 'folk'... But even if it does, it'll pass...

"directed toward making fun of that which you don't understand"

If you think for a second that these folks made this movie without doing some SERIOUS research into the subject matter, I'd imagine yer sprly mistaken...   It won't surprise me if there are more than a few jokes in this movie that ONLY Rick gets... Some breeder/pet show friends of mine said they found the same thing with "Best In Show"... That's one reason why they loved it so... there was humour in it aimed at them! Hehehehehe


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: georgeward
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 01:41 PM

Having seen the Letterman spot, I'd say Guest is satirizing what he DOES understand very well. "Deft" is an inadequate word for that piece. This 60ish guy was too busy laughing WITH them (and, yes, at himself) to squirm.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Allan C.
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 12:56 PM

Humbug! (Well...maybe.)

I'm not sure I can ride the bandwagon on this. It appears to me to be typical of current humor trend that is directed toward making fun of that which you don't understand. I don't mind laughing at myself and yet, like the Amish, I am not fond of being made the butt of jokes by clueless yokels. We shall see.


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 09 Apr 03 - 12:48 PM

The Folksmen were on Ltterman last night. I would think they had some 60ish guys squirming.

Any one see this?


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 11:04 PM

I went to the movie theatre to see Chicago last night. I came home and put in the rented copy of Guffman. The contrast in music, choreography and acting was something else. But, had Corky got his $100,000 from the bastard people...


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Mark Ross
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 06:33 PM

My HS group was a jug band, Prendergast Farganswaller and His Merry Marching Society for the Preservation of Insignificant Causes. There wasn't an MC in the world who could introduce us without stumbling over the name!

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Review: A Mighty Wind
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 04:20 PM

Ooh, ooh, ooh!!

You people WANT to see this, But I GOTTA see it! I'm champing at the bit, I'm waiting with baited breath, I'm spewing with excitement, I'm dribbling with anticipation, I'm.......

Seriously....I formed a group called the HARVESTERS in high school...probably awful, cuz I forced someone else out to get my girlfriend in!

So what was YOUR HIGH SCHOOL FOLK GROUP CALLED?

.....I'm drooling with envy at Peg's preview look, I'm decomposing at the thought of once again seeing Fred Willard crack me up...."I'm gettin a little scruffy myself.........Have ya ever seen a band called "Four Jacks and a Jill"...they're at the Airport Holiday in.....

.....but mostly......"My Dinner with Andre," Action figures!

Dribble, drool, champ, spew, Spaw.

Rick


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