BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:39 PM

ddw-I have plenty idea what the issue is, if you knew me, or anything about me, you would not need to ask that.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:35 PM

There are always people who will take unfair advantage of help offered; bite the hand that feeds them, but that's not a good reason to stop helping altogether.

Sure, racism may not come into it, but bigotry against any down-and-outer who gets a lucky break is almost as ugly.

You'd like it here in Australia. Here we put asylum seekers into concentration camps.
It's our country after all, we can do what we like.
(That means "we" happen to be more powerful here just now. It wasn't always that way and probably won't be that way at some time in the future)

John

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: dunkel_esel
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:18 PM

Can you imagine what kind of troubles would force you to leave your home country (with which you shared language, culture, traditions, friends, family) and goto a foriegn country? I know for me, things would have to be pretty damn bad. Can you then imagine the desperation you would feel, when the developed country you were escaping to (which was your only chance of salvation) didnot let you in, not because it would be financially damaging to that country but because the general public saw you as theives and as inferior race? Can you then imageine what kind of desperation would force you into hiding in that country, with the chance of huge fines and imprisonment?

We would expect the same if we were in trouble. Another question - do you have a problem with American, French, Germans, etc getting citizenship in Britain (people from countries with good health care etc) as opposed to people in dire situations with no other option?

mjx

p.s Is a non-racist BNP voter not a contradiction in terms? p.p.s The BNP use the numbers 88 as a sort of emblem or something, which stands for heil hitler (H is the 8th letter of the alphabet). Do you want that kind of party looking after our country? I certainly don't.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:18 PM

Thanks DDW for backing me, up, I was finding it hard to express myself but yes, I am bias. I'll say that straight up.

I wouldn't mind if immigrants turned things around and made money for themselves, but time and time again I have been proven wrong. They find loopholes in the system, cause crime in all sorts of areas and Mosques ARE a breeding ground for racism and terrorism on the west. We let one guy into our country, can't remember his name, but he had a hook instead of a hand, and he was quite openly telling people to reap terror on the west. This guy is banned from entering America yet the UK lets him in? What's going on????

And about 'limey bastards getting comeuppance, well I do think that is unfair. America have been throwing their weight around and now it looks like they're starting a Civil war in Iraq cos of their resorting to violence... before then, our British troops were doing quite well in Basra. Up until then anyway. And you wonder why 9/11 happened. And you wonder why America invaded Iraq cos of WMD's??? There were none! It was their thirst for Oil.

America is becoming undone. Just like the UK.

The future I fear, is very bleak.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:03 PM

Well it is about time you limey bastards got your comeuppance!

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: ddw
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:00 PM

Actually, Ellenpoly, that's not a very good definition of racism. Racism is holding negative views of a race of people without foundation in fact and based solely on the person's race.

What Josh is expressing is bias, not racism, and from what I saw during a recent visit to England there is pretty good reason for that bias.

Do you think the Irish have a right to want the English out? I'll bet you think Iraqis have a right to not want the U.S. in their land. So how can you — and all your ilk, if I'm guessing right about he basis for you name-calling — support the "national struggles" of the Irish against the English and Iraqis against Americans, and then condemn the English for getting upset what an alien culture imposes itself on them — and demands that they pay for it?

Seems to me you're a hypocrite, which is a lot lower on the food chain than someone who holds a justified bias against an interloper group set on changing HIS tradtions and asking him to pay for it.

Wesley — yeah, it may always be about the money.... Your point being....? If I'm going to give away my hard-earned money, I at least want to choose who I give it to. Don't you?

John from Hull — congratulations, you must have spent a lot of time looking up how to spell everything word in your post. Do you have any idea what the issue is?

And BTW, is that a personal invitation, or is your mother entertaining?

cheers,

david

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:54 PM

Go burn your cross elsewhere you fascit pig!

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:50 PM

I can't imagine by what criteria you have come to the decision that you're not a racist.

Hard work and honesty did not get you a nice pure unadulterated place to live, it was an accident of birth.
In your case, a bad accident.

John

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,Jim Crow
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:39 PM

sIR jOhn you are making me love you more and more.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:04 PM

And of course you're a racist, Josh.

Of all the illegal immigrants who now live in the UK, you chose to focus on one group for all your wrath.

That's racism.



..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:53 PM

Josh, you're an idiot, [and a racist one at that], now kindly fuck off.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:50 PM

"I am not racist but I vote BNP"

I honestly thought this was the name of a song and wondered why it was below the line.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:47 PM

I had a friend who used to say - "It's not about the money". But y'know - it was always about the money.

Subject: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,Josh
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:30 PM

Is this a contradiction or requires more in depth analysis for the slightly more intelligent?

I am a one of many people who, unlike before, now vote BNP. It is of my opinion we have become a soft nation so dedicated to political correctness and keeping everyone happy that we have lost our way.

I am not racist. Many of my friends are Asian. All understand my vote. The fact is, if the BNP didn't have a thug element, and you listened to their leader's views, you would appreciate many of the points they make.

I am middle class. I work hard for my money, and pay all my taxes. But now the government believes it would be a good idea to slam a couple of hundred brand new houses in my district for Asylum Seekers, which is very close to the Peak District. Bear in mind this is a rich district compared to it's poor neighbouring town, Oldham.

I am not happy. The police have no powers to stop illegal immigrants. Instead, the government awards them with rent free housing, money, and even CARS to 'get to work.' One gentleman who could not even speak English crashed into my car. He lied about him having insurance, he did not have any. He lied when he said he had a license. He did not. This was what his friend was telling me, when he called him in. So now I, me, it was NOT my fault, now have to pay higher premiums because I have to make a no fault claim. And he gets away with a fine, no jail sentence. And he probably won't pay it.

So explain to me, am I wrong to vote BNP from my personal position?? I am very forgiving. I am a student and am faced with paying £3000 a year top up fees introduced by our government. I understand one shouldn't vote for someone else purely because of personal reasons. But I took the increase in loans in my stride. But now I am tired of it all.

I am sick of our country (the UK) being walked over. I do not want to live here anymore. I have been let down. My family have been let down. And honest citizens of this country have been let down. We are not the ones segregating ourselves. Muslims are always the first to mention religion. They build Mosques on our lands, and hide their faces. This is not our country's culture. THEY should adapt to ours if they want the priveledge of living in the UK. I would do exactly that if I was in their country. And now they're building a Bank of Islam in the UK...

And votes for the BNP continue to rise... what a surprise!

Kind Regards,

Josh