Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead (29 Dec 2006)

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 05:29 AM

I don't find my life dimished either, JMc. That does not alter a belief that the death penalty is wrong for anyone or a belief that the trial was a farce.

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 05:25 AM

I guess I may be in a minority here but I would be saddened at the premature loss of anyones life by violence. What kind of world do we live in? A world where mans inhumanity toward man is prevalent and we punish it with more inhumanity.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: GUEST,ifor
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 05:16 AM

Reply to Teribus,
You need to find out a lot more about how Saddam came to power and how he was maintained in power with the massive support of the USA and other states including those you have named.
When Saddam handed over to the UN some 11000 documents relating to arm sales and other military matters just prior to the 2003 invasion the US confiscated the bulk of the documents as they were highly embarassing to the US and big business interests.
You jeer at the anti war movement calling it "twaddle" but there were millions who marched to oppose the invasion of Iraq and the war has been a disaster for Iraq,the region and much more.Over 600000 Iraqis have been killed ,many more maimed.The place has been turned into a bloodbath.
Thousands of American soldiers have been maimed with the loss of limbs and head injuries and British soldiers have also been killed and wounded and psychologically damaged.All for Bush and his mate Blair and in pursuit of the drive to make the neo con vision a reality in the coming decades.It didn't work and the US is facing a catastrophic defeat.
Saddam has had to account for his brutal crimes against humanity Bush and Blair are still to be impeached.
ifor

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 05:15 AM

Twaddle, GUEST. I find my life curiously undiminished by the loss of this (in)human being!

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 04:51 AM

I must admit I don't mourn him but my feelings against the death penalty are greater than any "he was an evil man" feelings.

Also, I do not recognise his trial and as such, even if I was in favour of capital punishment, could only consider this act as murder.

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Teribus
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 04:38 AM

GUEST,ifor - 30 Dec 06 - 02:20 AM

"Yeah,he was a murdering brute and was kept in power for for many years with American and western arms,finance and military equipment."

Apart from voicing this popular but highly inaccurate left-wing, anti-war, anti-Bush twaddle - Do you have any evidence to back up this statement?

I would rather think not - because all evidence clearly points to others namely Russia, China and France.

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 04:38 AM

I'm with Peace.

eric

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: The Walrus
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 03:14 AM

It's a pity that he was executed when he was, as it effectively devalues the, still on-going trial, over the slaughter of Kurds, they must surely feel that, with Saddam's execution without the verdict in their case, that they have not received justice (does that make sense to people?).

As for the man himself - Well, I'll not grieve for him.

Walrus

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: GUEST,ifor
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 02:20 AM

Yeah,he was a murdering brute and was kept in power for for many years with American and western arms,finance and military equipment. The people of Iraq were tormented by Saddam and they are still being tormented today by invasion,occupation ,the death squads and a collapsed economy.
ifor

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: dianavan
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 02:07 AM

From the article linked above, "UK Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett welcomed the fact that Saddam Hussein had been tried by an Iraqi court "for at least some of the appalling crimes he committed" and said "he has now been held to account".

I hope we will be able to apply the same standard of justice to Bush and Cheney.

...and lets not forget Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.

Kissinger would be a good start.

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: alanabit
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 01:46 AM

It is very rare that a murderous thug like Saddam is punished. Had Pol Pot, Augusto Pinochet, Idi Amin Dada and Bokassa ended up on the gallows, I might have been able to see it as justice.
Saddam was a mediocre brute made bigger by accidents of fate and the cirumstances of his times. Sadly, I fear the future will bring forth more of his kind.

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Bert
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 01:20 AM

I hope this will not be taken as a precedent. That would sure bode ill for OUR illustrious leader.

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 01:20 AM

Richie,

You have one too many hangmen there.

Hangman Hangman slacken the rope
Slacken it for a while
I think I see my own true love
Coming for many a mile

(that last line is a guess, but anyway, in the version I learned years ago that first line wouldn't scan). okay, so there's some music here now.

Any bets on how long it will take the gruesome photos to bleed into the American press? The media folks are all trying to figure out who will run them first--because the first one is liable to get clobbered, then no one will care about the rest. Geez. Meanwhile, anyone in the Middle East had better be watching their back now.

SRS

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Janie
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 12:50 AM

What Peace said....

Janie

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 12:27 AM

A scrolling headline read: "Saddam's execution marks the end of a dark period of Iraq's history."

Whatever...

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Peace
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 11:58 PM

I will no revel in his death, but I will not mourn him, either.

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: GUEST,gleaner
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 11:57 PM

"They're selling postcards of the hanging..." by Bob Dylan comes to mind. Internet profiteers and sensationalists will act similarly.

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Barry Finn
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 11:46 PM

His ghost will be back to bite us on the ass & any on all the deaths on our hands this'll be the one that'll come back to haunt US, this one along with his secrets.
This happened too fast their burying more than a body here & we're making damn sure that this is a family affair too.

Barry

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Richie
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 11:29 PM

Hangman, hangman, hangman, slack your rope a while.
Think I see my brother, ridin' many a mile.
Well, brother, did you bring me silver? Brother, did you bring me gold
Or did you come to see me hangin' from the gallows poles?

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: JennyO
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 11:18 PM

I think OBITs always start out here, and then get moved if necessary.

I'm sure the world will be a better place without him, but one has to wonder what secrets he took with him. There may be some sighs of relief coming from Washington.

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: woodsie
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 11:15 PM

Well I suppose it's music to some people's ears!

Don't get so upset Sorcha the clones will move the thread. Personally I class most of the content in the music section as BS anyway (but good fun)

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 11:10 PM

This is MUSIC?????? See the BS thread please.

Subject: RE: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: woodsie
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 11:09 PM

See HERE

Subject: Obit: Saddam Hussein Dead
From: woodsie
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 11:08 PM

He was executed at 3.00 GMT today