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Joel Newman, Howard Richmond, TRO/The Richmond Org |
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Subject: RE: Joel Newman, Howard Richmond, TRO/The Richmond Org From: keberoxu Date: 21 Dec 16 - 04:19 PM THANK YOU JOE OFFER ! Here is a link -- hope it works -- to an affectionate reminiscence of Howie Richmond. the Huffington Post on Howie Richmond |
Subject: RE: Joel Newman, Howard Richmond, TRO From: Joe Offer Date: 21 Dec 16 - 03:12 PM It might be a good idea to develop a hagiology of people in the music business from the Folk Scare era:
Any others that should be added to this list? |
Subject: RE: Joel Newman, Howard Richmond, TRO From: Joe Offer Date: 21 Dec 16 - 02:46 PM Another valuable information source for publishers is mpa.org, the Music Publishers Association of the United States. Here's their listing for TRO:
TRO Inc. (The Richmond Organization) 266 West 37th Street, 17th Floor Clearance Representative: Judy Bell Email: Member Affiliation: National Music Publishers Association Phone: 212-594-9795 Fax: 212-594-9782 Imprints Held: |
Subject: RE: Joel Newman, Howard Richmond, TRO From: GUEST,keberoxu Date: 21 Dec 16 - 01:12 PM Ouch. I'm sorry. Of course, I meant HAROLD Leventhal. You can see how ignorant I am; I really don't know press agents from managers. |
Subject: RE: Joel Newman, Howard Richmond, TRO From: keberoxu Date: 21 Dec 16 - 01:06 PM Howard Richmond, my search results read, started out in show business as a press agent. From there, he branched out into music publishing. In my ignorance I must confess that I don't know who Harold Leventhal is/was, it is safe to presume that these are two different individuals. Both had long associations with the Weavers. I apologize for my error, by the way: when MGM-Lion expressed his frustration about identifying "Joel Newman," the song under discussion was "Kisses Sweeter Than Wine," not "Wimoweh" which is covered on a different Mudcat forum thread. |
Subject: RE: Joel Newman, Howard Richmond, TRO From: keberoxu Date: 21 Dec 16 - 12:32 PM For a start, "The Richmond Organization," after Howard Richmond's passing, still exists. Here's the "history" page on their website. The Richmond Organization Michael Grosvenor Myers, of happy memory, participated vigorously in at least one thread in which the question of publishing and copyright for, say, "Wimoweh" was considered in detail. There is an MGM-Lion post insisting that "Joel Newman" be accounted for, because "Wimoweh" has that name attached to it. M sounds dissatisfied, stating that he has accepted that "Paul Campbell" refers to the collective membership of the Weavers, but he still does not know for whom "Joel Newman" is the pseudonym. |
Subject: publishing and promotion From: keberoxu Date: 20 Dec 16 - 02:22 PM There are Mudcatters who know tons more about this subject than I know, so in opening this thread, I defer to the more knowledgeable of us. Would very much like some informed comments and opinions on this part of the history of American popular song. Howard Richmond passed away, at a ripe old age of natural causes it seems, within the past ten years. TRO stands for The Richmond Organization, I believe it was named for Howard Richmond himself. When the obituary articles came out, the statements in the articles were eye-opening to me. "Joel Newman," a pseudonym of many years standing, seems to be directly connected to Howard Richmond although I do not know how to prove this; I suspect this only came out, as a statement of so many words, with Richmond's death. There are many places, over the years, where the "Joel Newman" name pops up. One of these is The Weavers' Song Book, where "Joel Newman" often appears next to "Paul Campbell," itself a collective pseudonym for Ronnie Gilbert, Lee Hays, Fred Hellerman, and Pete Seeger, if I read correctly. The Weavers were one of many acts/performers/songwriters-arrangers that were connected to Howard Richmond; in fact it came as a shock to read Richmond's obituary articles and to know that he was mixed up with everything from "Paper Sun," by Traffic, to a David Bowie song the name of which escapes me. The prudent thing for me to do now, is to let others post and comment. I will keep an eye out for articles to link to. |
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