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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST Date: 23 Nov 25 - 07:38 PM For those who don't know.. under UK copyright law any artist can claim their recordings back from a record company after 50 years. The artist is supposed to give one year's notice of intent to the record company (though that may be awkward with record companies who no longer exist). The record company has to be making that recording available on a reasonable scale under the use it or lose it rule. Copyright on recordings is 70 years for post 1962 issues. After 70 years anyone can issue the recordings as long as they pay royalties on the songs recorded. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Long Firm Freddie Date: 22 Nov 25 - 11:24 AM I just looked on Amazon Music and there's eleven of Dick's albums on there. When I checked maybe a week or so ago I could only find three. Maybe things have moved a lot faster than was hoped! LFF |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST,gillymor Date: 22 Nov 25 - 09:49 AM I know where you're coming from, Al. The situation just pisses me off. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Big Al Whittle Date: 22 Nov 25 - 09:21 AM well best of luck to him. he's a great artist and its not right. i think we all agree. Having said that going to law is stressful at any age. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST,gillymor Date: 22 Nov 25 - 05:37 AM It seems from the Guardian article that Mr. Gaughan is fighting the good fight. It's a crime that an artist of his stature has to go through this. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Herga Kitty Date: 22 Nov 25 - 04:47 AM Dick is 77 now, Al - he's never received a royalty statement from Celtic Music, but the really upsetting part for him is that the recordings aren't available for people who want to hear them. Kitty |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Big Al Whittle Date: 22 Nov 25 - 03:40 AM I'm not really sure about this. It is of course a scandalous aspect of working as a musician - the money that goes missing. I have discussed it many times with fellow musicians. Willie Jackson (ex Magna Carta and much else) once said to me, "Its just how it is. Every time you sign something, you think - here we go again." Ideally of course in an age when everything is computerised and theoretically all information should be accessible and all dealings transparent, you'd think this sort of thing would be in the past. But its not. If they can't count the votes in American election, how the hell will they ever sort out the labyrinthine world of publishing and recording. Thank God, I've come out of it with a roof over my head and food in the cupboard. I'm 76 now, even if they sort it out tomorrow it won't do me much good. How old's Dick? My advice is enjoy the sunshine we have left us. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Jack Campin Date: 21 Nov 25 - 08:11 PM Yes, typo in the URL. Thanks for the fix. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST Date: 21 Nov 25 - 07:51 PM Nick, I believe that Jack is referring to this article. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Nick Dow Date: 21 Nov 25 - 07:06 PM ? |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Jack Campin Date: 21 Nov 25 - 06:15 PM Guardian article |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: wendyg Date: 31 Jul 25 - 05:39 AM Happy to have it posted here in full. wg |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Nick Dow Date: 31 Jul 25 - 02:37 AM The conclusion then, is a change in (international?) law. That's a noble hope but a big ask. More power to Dick then. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Hagman Date: 30 Jul 25 - 07:55 PM Working down here, Nick: Here's the text (if I'm not not breaching your copyright, Wendy? :-)): Copywrongs This is a shortened version of a talk I gave at Musicians, Fans, and Copyright at the LSE on Wednesday, March 19, 2008. Most discussions about copyright with respect to music do not include musicians. The notable exception is the record companies' trophy musicians who appear at government hearings. Because these tend to be the most famous and well-rewarded musicians they can find, their primarily contribution to the dabate seems to be to try to make politicians think, "We love you, we can't bear that you should starve, the record company must be right." It's a long time since I made a living playing, so I can't pretend to represent them. But I can make a few observations. Folk musicians in particular stand at the nexus of all the copyright arguments: they are contemporary artists and songwriters, but they mine their material from the public domain. Every musician, at every level of the business, has been ripped off (PDF), usually when they can least afford it. The result is that they tend to be deeply suspicious of any attempt to limit their rights. The music business has such a long history of signing the powerless - young, inexperienced musicians, the black blues musicians of the Mississippi Delta, and many others - to exploitive contracts that it's hard to understand why they're still allowed to get away with it. Surely it ought to be possible to limit what rights and terms the industry can dictate to the inexperienced and desperate with stars in their eyes? Steve Gillette, author with Tom Campbell of the popular 1966 song "Darcy Farrow", says that when Ian & Sylvia wanted to record the song, they were told to hire someone to collect royalties on their behalf. That person did little to collect royalties for many years. Gillette and Campbell eventually won a court judgement with a standard six-month waiting period - during which time John Denver recorded the song and put it on his best-selling album, Rocky Mountain High, giving the publisher a motive to fight back. They were finally able to wrest back control of the song in about 1990. In book publishing it is commonplace for the rights to revert to authors if and when the publisher decides to withdraw their work from sale. There is no comparable practice in the music business. And so, people I know on the folk scene whose work has gone out of commercial release find themselves in the situation where their fans want to buy their music but they can't sell it. As one musician said, "I didn't work all those years to have my music stuck in a vault." Pete Coe, a traditional performer and songwriter, tells me that the common scenario is that a young musician signs a recording contract early on, and then the company goes out of business and the recordings are bought by others. The purchasing company buys the assets - the recordings - but not the burden, the obligation to pass on royalties to the original artists. Coe himself, along with many others, is in this situation; some of his early recordings have been through two such bankruptcies. The company that owns them now owns many other folk releases of the period and either refuses to re-release the recordings or refuses to provide sales figures or pay royalties, and is not a member of MCPS. Coe points out that this company would certainly refuse to cooperate with any effort to claim the reversion of rights. In a similar case, Nic Jones, a fine and widely admired folk guitarist who played almost exclusively traditional music, was in a terrible car accident in about 1981 that left him unable to play. Over the following years his recordings were bought up but not rereleased, so that an artist now unable to work could not benefit from his back catalogue. It is only in the last few years, with the cost of making and distributing music falling, that he and his wife have managed to release old live recordings on their own label. Term extension would, if anything, hurt Jones's ability to regain control over and exploit his own work. (Note: I have not canvassed Jones's opinion.) The artists in these cases, like any group of cats, have reacted in different ways. Gillette, who comments also that in general it's the smaller operators who are the biggest problem, says, that term extension "only benefits the corporate media, and in my experience only serves to lend energy to turning the public trust into company assets". Coe, on the other hand, favors term extension. "We determined," he said by email in 2006, "that once we'd regained our rights, publishing and recording, that they were never again to pass out of our control." Coe's reaction is understandable. But I think many problems could be solved by forcing the industry to treat musicians and artists more fairly. It's notable that folk artists, through necessity, pioneered what's becoming commonplace now: releasing their own albums to sell to audiences direct at their gigs and via mail, now Web, order. What the musicians of the future want and need, in my opinion, is the same thing that the musicians of the present and past wanted: control. In my view, there is no expansion of copyright that will give it to them. Wendy M. Grossman's Web site has an extensive archive of her books, articles, and music, and an archive of all the earlier columns in this series. Readers are welcome to post here, at net.wars home, at her personal blog, or by email to netwars@skeptic.demon.co.uk (but please turn off HTML). Posted by Wendy M. Grossman on March 21, 2008 3:40 PM | Permalink TrackBack TrackBack URL for this entry: http://WWW.pelicancrossing.net/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/wendyg/managed-mt/mt-tb.cgi/136 |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Nick Dow Date: 30 Jul 25 - 07:49 PM The link does not work Wendy. Don't know what problem you had, but it does work ---mudelf |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: wendyg Date: 30 Jul 25 - 09:25 AM I wrote some about this type of abuse of copyright years ago: http://www.pelicancrossing.net/netwars/2008/03/copywrongs.html I very much hope this case will free not only Dick's music but that of the many other musicians whose work is "trapped in a vault". It's just wrong, no matter who it's done to. wg |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Nick Dow Date: 24 Jul 25 - 11:31 AM I was involved in the Royalty distribution business when I worked at the BBC. I think this certainly does need passing on to Dick. I'll leave it with you however Colin Harper has a contact point on the OP link above. Well done by the way. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST,Howard Jones Date: 24 Jul 25 - 10:45 AM No, it's just a problem with the link (probably my fault). I don't seem now to be able to link to the article itself, but here's another link to the barrister writing about the case, which includes a link to the article itself. Hebden v Domino The case has been widely reported in both the legal and general press, so if that doesn't work try googling Hebden v Domino Recording. I'm not a lawyer and I don't know to what extent this might be a precedent for Dick's case, but it does seem to suggest that a record company could be under an implied obligation to publish the recordings it holds the rights to. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: Nick Dow Date: 24 Jul 25 - 08:51 AM Looks like the barristers have pulled the page. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST,Howard Jones Date: 23 Jul 25 - 11:16 AM There was an interesting recent legal case which may have some bearing on this. Hebden v Domino Recording Co Ltd 2022 Whilst the circumstances are different, and it could depend on the terms of the original contract, this case suggests that it might be possible to imply an obligation in a music recording contract to require continued exploitation of some sort. This might include a good faith obligation. It has always baffled me why Celtic Music have not wanted to commercially exploit their catalogue, especially in the digital age which makes releasing music much easier. It would cost very little to put the albums online for download, and some would surely justify a release on CD. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST,Howard Jones Date: 21 Jul 25 - 08:41 AM The Celtic Music issue has been gone into many times on here, but for those who are not aware of the story this is nothing to do with the licensing issues which Gargoyle posted about. Very briefly: Bill Leader recorded many of the most important British albums of the 1970s, as well has having an important catalogue of recordings of traditional singers and musicians. When Leader Records when bust its entire catalogue found its way into the hand of Celtic Music, run by Dave Bulmer (now deceased) and Neil Sharpley. For more than 30 years Celtic Music have done virtually nothing to promote the albums whose copyright they own. If you knew that an album you wanted was now owned by Celtic Music, and if you knew how to contact them (none of this easy to find pre-internet), you could order a CD from them, which I have been informed would be burned to order onto CD-ROM and obviously was of poorer quality than a properly produced CD. They have been assiduous in protecting their copyright, and successfully sued over a re-release of Lal Waterson's 'Bright Phoebus', but have done little with it themselves. This obviously has financial implications for the musicians, especially those like Dick and Nic Jones who are no longer able to perform. The wider artistic loss, since so many albums are effectively unavailable to the public, is also significant. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: treewind Date: 17 Jul 25 - 06:04 PM Just seen this. Donated. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST Date: 17 Jul 25 - 06:26 AM To fill -out what this is about rather than the irrelevant stuff from gargoyle. Those of us who chipped in via Gofundme got the following via email today. The original hasn't got any paragraph breaks either! Colin has posted a new update to Help Dick Gaughan in seeking to retrieve his music Thank you so much everyone for believing in this campaign and contributing in such fantastic numbers – nearly 700 people in four days. We all know how tough these times are, not least for professional musicians – and I can see that a lot of musicians have contributed, publicly or anonymously – so to have such numbers empathising with Dick’s cause and with the wider matter is very heartening indeed. The sum raised so far – well over £20,000 at the time of writing – is fantastic. We honestly had no idea if the cause would resonate with people. But that cause clearly has resonated and the crowdfunder has been widely shared. Do keep sharing it if you can. Our true aspiration is around £35,000. That was the figure entered into the GoFundMe system, though it defaults to showing lesser targets and then raising those periodically. No idea why! Who knows if even that sum will be sufficient to grind through what one suspects, from personal experience and the experience of others consulted, will be lengthy legal correspondence? But as Dick often sang, ‘it’s what you do with what you’ve got’. Dick is one of many artists who recorded for Trailer / Leader in the 1970s who surely deserve a renaissance in appreciation. On a personal note, I’m thrilled that it’s happening for him at present; I hope – and Dick hopes – that it will happen for others. Thank you again, sincerely, from all of us involved in Team Gaughan. If you wish, listen out on BBC Sounds / BBC Radio Scotland to Travelling Folk tomorrow evening (17 July) for a Dick Gaughan special featuring new interviews with the great man and some of his associates. Colin PS Hats off to the splendid Ian McCalman, one of Dick's best and oldest pals, and a legend of Scottish folk singing and Light Entertainment, for allowing us to film the crowdfunding video in the home and garden he shares with Ellen and the dog (whose name I didn't catch on the day). Here he is with us after the filming. |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 16 Jul 25 - 10:49 PM Miles of Sand pooped in a birds'eye. We have been polar opposites for three decades on this issue. I am simply presenting this as another perspective from a world jurisdiction. Sincerely, Gargoyle |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: The Sandman Date: 16 Jul 25 - 05:15 PM Gargoyle, you do not understand the situation with Celtic Music. I do, as I was a member of The New Mexborough Concertina Quartet, and in a MUCH more minor way was a victim |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 16 Jul 25 - 05:10 PM Restaurants, bars consider turning off music as licensing fees skyrocket<Los Angeles Times Business June 11, 2025 By Ashley Carman and Aruni Soni Ever since operetta composer Victor Herbert sued Shanley’s restaurant in New York in 1917 to force it to pay for playing his song on a player-piano, songwriters and music publishers have depended on Performing Rights Organizations to make sure they get compensated. For much of the last century, three organizations dominated the industry, a relatively staid and unglamorous corner of the music scene that remained largely unchanged throughout the eras of radio, records and CDs. But the rise of streaming has led to a surge in revenue and spawned a handful of new organizations looking to cash in. Now there are at least half a dozen PROs in the United States, representing songwriters and publishers, each demanding that bars, restaurants, hotels and other venues pay a fee or risk being sued. Businesses say the rising licensing costs have become overwhelming, and some question whether it’s even worth playing music at all. The House Judiciary Committee last fall asked the Copyright Office to investigate the current system and consider potential reforms. In February, the Office opened an inquiry and received thousands of comments from businesses and songwriters. “The growing proliferation of PROs and their lack of transparency have made it increasingly difficult to offer music in our establishments,” hundreds of small businesses from across the country wrote to the Copyright Office in a joint letter. “The issue is not that small businesses are unwilling to pay for music,” they wrote, adding that the current system is unfair and untenable. “Small businesses can be left feeling like PROs have them over the proverbial barrel.” Creating a welcoming ambiance in a restaurant or yoga studio isn’t as simple as putting on a Spotify playlist. Streaming has unleashed trillions of songs, and every one must be licensed and have royalties paid to the songwriter whenever any track is played in public. Violations can cost up to $150,000 per infringement. This booming market for music publishing has led to a windfall for the two major PROs. The American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers, founded in 1914, and BMI, established in 1939, together represent more than 90% of musical compositions in the U.S. today with talent lists covering Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo, Jay-Z, Lady Gaga and Eminem, to name a few. SESAC, founded in 1931, rounds out the original three and operates on an invite-only basis. ASCAP, the oldest and, as a nonprofit, the only PRO to publicly share data on its collections and payout, has seen revenue jump to $1.8 billion in 2024 from $935 million in 2010. Broadcast Music Inc., in its last public report as a nonprofit in 2022, showed record revenue of $1.6 billion, with 48% of that from digital sources. This kind of growth hasn’t gone unnoticed. In just over the last 12 years, three new PROs have emerged. Legendary music manager Irving Azoff founded Global Music Rights in 2013, offering “boutique services” and royalty transparency, building a stable of more than 160 high-profile songwriters such as Bad Bunny and Bruce Springsteen. AllTrack, founded in 2017, caters to smaller, independent songwriters. Pro Music Rights launched in 2018 and says it represents more than 2.5 million musical works, including AI-created music. Many songs today are composed by several songwriters, each of whom could be affiliated with a different PRO. Therefore, to legally play those songs, establishments must pay for a license from each PRO. Most PROs offer blanket licensing agreements, meaning that they provide access to their entire repertoires for one fee. And while that gives a particular venue a wide range of musical freedom, it also means bars and restaurants are paying for thousands of songs they may never play or are essentially paying twice, in instances where a song with multiple writers is represented by more than one PRO. The National Restaurant Assn. said its members pay an average of $4,500 per year to license music, or 0.5% of the average U.S. small restaurant’s total annual sales. “This may not seem like a large amount, but for an industry that runs on an average pre-tax margin of 3%-5%, this cost is significant, especially since operators don’t clearly understand what they get for this particular investment aside from avoiding the very legitimate threat of a business-ending lawsuit,” the association wrote in public comments to the Copyright Office. The American Hotel & Lodging Assn. said the mushrooming number of PROs has led to “significant increases in both financial and administrative burdens.” It gave an example of one “major global hotel chain” that reported the cost per hotel for PRO license fees rose by about 200% from 2021-25, with some hotels seeing increases of 400% or more. A large hotel that hosts occasional live music events could be paying a single PRO $5,000 to $20,000 a year. If it’s paying all of the major PROs, it could be incurring as much as $80,000 in fees, according to the association. BMI said its licensing fees have remained “relatively steady over the years” and are based on objective criteria that apply equally to all similar businesses. Fees for individual bars and restaurants start at just over $1 a day, according to BMI. Other factors that go into licensing fees include the occupancy rate, and the type of music being played — live, DJed or recorded, for example. Songwriters’ livelihoods In the 1917 Supreme Court case that delivered Herbert his victory over Shanley’s, Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote: “If music did not pay, it would be given up.” He wasn’t only referring to the songwriters, but also to the venues themselves and addressing whether music helped generate revenue. The ruling was a win for Herbert personally but also for ASCAP, which he had helped found, and established the royalty payment system that’s largely still in use today. A spokesperson for ASCAP said an increase in fees paid to songwriters by venues is an appropriate and inevitable outcome of a growing market. The organization’s musical repertoires have grown exponentially over the years to include tens of millions of works, giving music users more music and more choice, the spokesperson said. ASCAP says about 90 cents of every dollar it collects from licensees is made available for distribution to its members as royalties. “Licensees are seeking more regulation of PROs because they want to pay songwriters less,” ASCAP Chief Executive Elizabeth Matthews said in a statement to Bloomberg. “If transparency, efficiency and innovation are the goals, more free market competition among PROs is the answer— not unnecessary government intervention.” Songwriters depend on PROs for their livelihoods, especially in the streaming era. Many individual songwriters wrote to the Copyright Office in defense of the PRO system, expressing concern that government regulation would only diminish their hard-won earnings. “Every royalty payment I receive represents not just compensation for my work, but my ability to continue creating music that enhances these very businesses,” wrote Joseph Trapanese, a composer who has created scores for film and TV. Performance royalties make up about half of total publishing revenue, which is collected by PROs and dispersed to songwriters, according to the National Music Publishers’ Assn. Last year, only about 5% of songwriters’ earnings came from bars, restaurants and other venues, a figure that is “significantly undervalued,” according to NMPA executive vice president and General Counsel Danielle Aguirre. “There is a substantial opportunity for growth here,” she said, speaking at the group’s annual meeting in June. The organization set a goal to significantly increase that money over the next year, likely by enforcing licensing requirements. Several establishment owners equated the PRO’s efforts to collect fees to a mob-like shakedown, citing aggressive on-site confrontations and threatening letters. BMI said it spends a lot of time trying to educate business owners on the value that music brings to their establishment, federal copyright law requirements and the importance of maintaining a music license. Lawsuits are always a last resort, a spokesperson said, which is why BMI spends sometimes years on educational outreach. If those efforts are ignored, however, an in-person visit might occur, and BMI may take legal action. b>Opaque, bureaucratic Despite their differences, songwriters and businesses agree that the current system is opaque and bureaucratic and could serve both sides better. Businesses complain about the lack of a comprehensive database of songs and the fact that there is no easy system for reporting which songs they’ve played. Meanwhile, songwriters claim that the sheer volume of music and businesses throughout the U.S. makes it hard to track where and when their work is played and to know whether they’ve been properly compensated. “What’s really being called to question is, is this system working accurately—is the money that should be finding its way to the songwriters’ pockets finding its way in an efficient manner?” said George Howard, a professor at Berklee College of Music. “And the answer is ‘no.’ There’s no excuse for that with the level of technology we have today.” BMI and ASCAP joined forces in 2020 to launch Songview, a free digital database showing copyright ownership and administration shares for more than 20 million works. The two PROs are exploring including GMR and SESAC, which would add even more songs to the platform. Some of the complaints about the PRO licensing system go back decades. Michael Dorf, a producer and founder of the legendary Manhattan music club The Knitting Factory, has faced off with PROs numerous times over his 30-some years as a venue operator. In the 1990s, he signed singer-songwriters who performed at his club to his publishing company and submitted their setlists to the PROs, assuming he and his acts would reap the resulting royalties from their performances. But no money came in “We didn’t receive one penny,” Dorf, who’s also the founder and chief executive officer of City Winery, said in an interview. “To me, there is a cost of doing business, and we want to have the artists and the songwriters properly paid — we love that. What’s simply frustrating is to pay money and know it’s not going to the reason why it’s being collected.” Caleb Shreve, a songwriter and producer who’s worked with the likes of Jennifer Lopez and is also chief executive at Killphonic Rights, a rights collection organization, said he hears music he has produced “all the time in yoga spots and bars, and I’ve never seen them on publishing statements.” Many songwriters are convinced the current system favors the biggest artists at the expense of middle-tier and emerging songwriters. Because of the blanket licensing system, BMI and ASCAP don’t track individual song use by those licensees and instead rely on proxy data, like what’s popular on the radio or through streaming platforms, to divvy up those collected fees. Sometimes radio hits mimic what’s played in an arena, restaurant or bar, but not always. ASCAP said it tracks trillions of performances every year across all media platforms and only uses sample surveys or proxy data when obtaining actual performance data isn’t feasible or is cost prohibitive. Technology could be a way to solve the current issues without regulation. London-based Audoo is one company leading the way. Founded by musician Ryan Edwards in 2018 after he heard his music being played in a department store and discovered he wasn’t getting paid for it, the growing startup uses proprietary listening devices it places in cafes, gyms and other public venues to recognize and log songs. It uploads the data to the cloud, ensuring every artist — not just the chart toppers — receives compensation for their work. The company has attracted investment from music icons including Elton John and Adele, and its devices are used by PROs in the U.K. and Australia. It made its first foray into the US earlier this year, placing listening devices in about 180 establishments around the Denver area in a test run.The collected data underscored that what’s played in public places doesn’t necessarily mirror what’s on the popular playlists or radio and streaming platforms. Edwards likens the idea of using proxies to political polling — directionally helpful but not precise. Audoo found that 77,000 unique tracks were played around Denver over two months, split among 26,000 artists, according to data viewed by Bloomberg News. On average, only 6.6% of the top-40 songs played in the venues also appeared on Billboard’s top radio-play chart. In markets where Audoo has partnered with venues, Edwards said business owners have been proud to support particular songwriters and the music business writ large. “All of a sudden it went from a push-and-pull of, ‘Why do I owe you money?’ to, ‘OK, I can understand music is funding the people who create,’” Edwards said. Sincerely, Gargoyle i> (Carman and Soni write for Bloomberg) (latimes.com/business/story/2025-07-11/restaurants-bars-music-licensing-fees) |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: The Sandman Date: 14 Jul 25 - 07:56 AM good |
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Subject: RE: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music From: GUEST,Jonathan Date: 14 Jul 25 - 07:16 AM It's great news that there's hope for Dick and other musicians that this could lead to a court ruling that they should get their work back; but whenever I think about the infamous reputation of Bulmer, I wonder if there's any chance there is still surviving work to retrieve? If their attitude to the artists is anything to go by, I would not be surprised in the least if all material held by Celtic is long-gone, either from deliberate destruction or negligent care... I don't know too much about how this system works though to be entirely honest; like the Waterson family kept their own master copy of Bright Phoebus but was forbidden to commercially reproduce it. Does Gaughan have his own master copies that he's currently not allowed to use, or is it entirely hoping that Bulmer's estate has kept the originals and they are of a usable quality? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music r From: Nick Dow Date: 12 Jul 25 - 10:15 AM Good man Dick! About time. |
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Subject: Dick Gaughan seeks to regain his music r From: GUEST,Happy Jack Date: 12 Jul 25 - 09:43 AM Dick Gaughan employs "serious" solicitors to look into his legal dealings with Celtic Music: Bulmer Celtic |
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