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Tune Add: Ookpik Waltz
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Ookpik Waltz From: Helen Date: 06 Oct 12 - 01:18 AM Sorry about the wrong link. I had to re-do it because the first one had the full Google reference rather than just the YouTube link. I had listened to the mandolin version after I heard the Frankie Rodgers version and I must have copied the wrong link. Thanks heaps to meself for posting the correct link above on 04 Oct 12 at 08:12 PM. Helen |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Ookpik Waltz From: meself Date: 05 Oct 12 - 07:16 PM There's two or three names there that I don't recognize; all the others I can vouch are Canadian. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Ookpik Waltz From: Desert Dancer Date: 05 Oct 12 - 04:14 PM Thanks for that, meself! I see that there are several more examples of his playing among the "related" videos. (Here's that YouTuber's "Fiddle Tunes" playlist: clicky, with more -- exclusively? mostly? -- Canadian fiddlers.) ~ Becky in Tucson |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Ookpik Waltz From: meself Date: 04 Oct 12 - 08:12 PM Here's Frankie Rodgers. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Ookpik Waltz From: meself Date: 04 Oct 12 - 08:10 PM That last link to youtube does not feature Frankie Rodgers - it is an anonymous contributor playing it on mandolin. |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Ookpik Waltz From: Louie Roy Date: 04 Oct 12 - 07:33 PM I've always heard this tune called the Eskimo Love song |
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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Ookpik Waltz From: Helen Date: 04 Oct 12 - 04:31 PM Hi all, After a break of about 10 or more years, I have started going back to my local music session. (Yee-ha! Only you guys know how special that makes me feel, after not playing music for nearly a decade!) And Ookpik Waltz is one of the session group's favourites, so naturally I came here to look up info about it. You might like to listen to Frankie Rodgers playing the tune on YouTube. You don't get to see him play it because there is just a black & white photo of him, but hearing how he plays it makes it so much more interesting. Frankie Rodgers playing Ookpik Waltz Helen |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Fliss Date: 16 Nov 04 - 05:45 PM Wonder why Im listed as guest? Dont think anyone has said that Hills of Isle au Haut wasnt written by Gordon Bok. I just said that our guests were surprised that we knew the song in Shropshire. In fact some of the listeners thought it was called Hills of Idaho!!! :)) The Ookpic waltz is one of our favourite tunes at the session. It was great to see the surprise on the guest fiddler's face when we started the tune. fliss |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: NH Dave Date: 15 Nov 04 - 06:18 PM I'm sort of surprized at that [Hills of Isle au Haut] as I had always heard it attributed to Gordon Bok, or at least he sang it on one of his records or CDs. Dave |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: GUEST Date: 15 Nov 04 - 06:10 PM Its the first tune I really learned well on my English COncertina. I put the Altan CD on repeat and just kept on trying. Its such a beautiful tune. Thanks for all the information on it. We had American visitors down at THe Boat Inn about a month ago. THey came from Maine, so I suggested we played the Ookpik Waltz as it was listed as coming from Maine on Altans CD. The fiddle player was chuffed and said he had taught it to Altan. We also got one of our singers to sing Isle au Haut, again the visitors were surprised we knew the song, as the island was about 40 miles away from where they lived. f |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: GUEST,Rick Fanning Date: 15 Nov 04 - 03:27 PM The song is listed as "Ookpik or Canadian Waltz" in the CD/Book combination "Famous Fiddlin Tunes", an instructional set published by Mel Bay. It's my favorite waltz for the fiddle. My lady friend insisted that I learn it before several other tunes I was looking at. A beautiful, haunting tune. Rick |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: BanjoRay Date: 23 Feb 04 - 03:26 AM I've just learned it from a lovely recording on two fiddles by JP Fraley and Betty Vornbrock. Beautiful stuff. Cheers Ray |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Arkie Date: 22 Feb 04 - 06:51 PM I missed the second round of responses to this thread and am glad to see it revived. As this has been one of my favortite fiddle tunes since hearing it in California in the mid 1970s. When I got back to Arkansas I kept waiting for it to appear in fiddle contests which it eventually did but close to ten years after I had first heard it. It does take a while for the mid-south to catch up to the coasts. Glad to know the origins of the beautiful piece. Thanks to all. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Phil Cooper Date: 22 Feb 04 - 05:56 PM Like Art, I always have associated the tune with Paul Goelz. Boy did he play it well. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: marthabees Date: 22 Feb 04 - 05:23 PM I'm glad that someone has researched this lovely tune. I've been playing it to my elem. music kiddies from Aubrey Haynie's "Bluegrass Fiddle Album." I really thought they'd lose interest as they listened since he does it so slow, but they don't. It's an absolutely gorgeous rendition and is beautiful and lonely at the same time, an interesting phenomenon to explore with children. Highly recommended. Martha |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: GUEST,corvos@localline.com Date: 24 Nov 00 - 09:20 AM I've been playing "Ookpik Waltz" for about ten years; it seems all the fiddlers around west central Indiana know it. And I've seen the same tune listed as "Waltz in G"; I believe this was on Windridge's "Rise Over Run" CD. I was glad to see the author's name, as I'd never know who wrote it. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Metchosin Date: 24 Nov 00 - 02:46 AM Mike, I've sent the info via email |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: GUEST,Mike Agranoff Date: 23 Nov 00 - 10:39 AM Hi This is a message to Metchosin. In this thread about the Ookpik Waltz, you had said that if I wanted any further information, to contact you and you would give me the contact info for Frankie Rogers, the author. I just recorded it, believing it to traditional. My searches for it proved fruitless, because I had the spelling wrong. I'd like to contact Frankie and send him a royalty check and a copy of the CD. Could you pass the information on to me at Mike@MikeAgranoff.com? Thanks Mike Agranoff |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: GUEST,pablo Date: 24 May 00 - 02:59 AM Used to play it in Alaska in the eighties. Came from out of the group(s) of gathered musicians. Am glad to hear of it again. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Metchosin Date: 23 May 00 - 09:10 PM Your welcome Jeri, it would be nice if they were too. He was a delightful gentleman to talk to.
I had left a message on his answering machine regarding the inquiry, with the instruction not to call me back, as there would be long distance charges involved and that I would call again but he returned my call anyways.
He was very pleasant and forthcoming and we ended up having a conversation about my father-in-law (also an old-time fiddler) and fiddling styles I've ordered his tapes and am looking forward to giving them a listen-to. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Jeri Date: 23 May 00 - 07:27 PM Hope Atlan's paying him royalties, but I think they may have it as "trad." (It hasn't been easy finding out who wrote it.) Thank you very much, Metchosin! |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Metchosin Date: 23 May 00 - 06:20 PM oh yeah, it is called the Ookpik Waltz and he has had two calls recently, one from Roanoke, Viginia with requests to record it. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Metchosin Date: 23 May 00 - 06:06 PM As guest Stoney posted, this song was indeed written by Canadian Frankie Rodgers in 1965 (BMI). Frankie now lives in Mission, B.C. outside of Vancouver.
I just spoke to him on the phone and he is thrilled with the resurgence of interest in his song. Frank has appeared on many fiddle recordings, composed many fiddle tunes, is a veteran backup fiddler for many country music acts and a specialist in the Texas fiddle style. He is now recording on his own and if anyone is interested, you can purchase boxed sets of his current three tapes. Send me a personal message and I will send you his address and phone number.
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Jeri Date: 22 May 00 - 07:23 PM 1980's. If it was recorded by Ace Sewell in "1977?" (Voyager VRLP 319-S (1977?), cut #B.06), it's older than "early 1980's." This is the first recording I've found of the tune, and the Folk Index isn't sure of the date, but it seems more in order with Art's recollection. It was also recorded as "Ookpik Waltz," not "Eskimo Waltz," which was supposed to be the original name. I'm thinking maybe Ryan assumed it was written for a specific competition. Oy - the plot thickens... |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Kim C Date: 22 May 00 - 01:57 PM "The tune was written for competition in a fiddle contest in Iowa in the early 80's, and was originally titled "The Eskimo Waltz." The 1880s or 1980s? I have a hard time believing this is only 20 years old. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Art Thieme Date: 21 May 00 - 05:59 PM I always associate this song with a hammer dulcimer player, then living in Chicago, named PAUL GOELZ. I always thought Paul wrote it. This goes back to the early or mid 1970s. An OOKPIK is a SNOW OWL---is from Canada and northern climes. They are snow white in the winter and change to brown in the summertime. We saw one in Jasper National Park on a trip through the Canadian Rockies---1969. And Carol still has a small OOKPIK in our bedroom on a shelf. It was CREE made I'm pretty sure. Somewhere near the Peace River. (Right near where I saw the perfect name for a band that never got formed on a huge grain elevator. THE MIGHTY PEACE GRAIN LIMITED !!! Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Jeri Date: 20 May 00 - 10:35 AM Got some more information last weekend from Ryan Thompson, who learned the tune and brought it to New Hampshire years ago. The tune was written for competition in a fiddle contest in Iowa in the early 80's, and was originally titled "The Eskimo Waltz." The name "Ookpik" was given to it because, although the meaning was unknown, it sounded like a good Innuit word. Ryan couldn't remember the name of the composer. Do I believe Ryan's account? Yep. I looked for "Eskimo Waltz" instead of Ookpik, and found: A midi here, and dots here. The tune was composed by Frank Rogers. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Jeri Date: 25 Apr 00 - 07:21 PM Of course, I'd love to hear more about "ookpik," which in my first post, I quoted my friend as saying "Ookpik is, in Inuit folklore, an owl that carries off the souls of the dead." I finally found some info on Ookpik, the Innuit word for "snowy owl," according to this website. Not before stumbling upon Native American lore at StoneE's WebLodge, which looks mighty interesting. Thanks to everyone who responded so far (and who will in the future.) It's interesting to hear this tune has been around for a while. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Homeless Date: 25 Apr 00 - 02:25 PM I've heard it on two CD's - Wild Asparagus' "Tone Roads" and Geoff Seitz's "The Good Old Days Are Here." This is from the liner notes of Geoff's CD 'When I lived in Spokane, WA and was a member of the Washington State Old Time Fiddlers, I was told repeatedly that this waltz was an Inuit Eskimo melody. Mark Gunther of Chicago, IL told me that the words "ook pik" could possibly mean "owl." I've heard it in other keys and called "The Canadian Waltz."' |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: GUEST,Steve Latimer Date: 25 Apr 00 - 01:17 PM This is really weird. Last night I was looking at a light cast by a candle and I commented that it looked like Ookpik. My companion agreed and we tried to figure out what Ookpik was associated with. James, I think you may be right, although I thought perhaps it was the '76 Olympics. Can anyone say definately?
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Jim Krause Date: 25 Apr 00 - 12:41 PM I first heard it at the Walnut Valley Bluegrass Festival back in the early '80s from an Ohio stringband called Company Coming. They recorded it on an LP titled Sittin' On Top of the World, which is probably long out of print. I play it quite a lot. Beautiful tune. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: GUEST,JAMES Date: 25 Apr 00 - 12:22 PM Was ookpik not the symbol for Expo 67.. Canadas Centennial Celebration.. I thought the tune was written especially for this occasion. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: GUEST,Stoney Date: 25 Apr 00 - 06:20 AM My research on this last year pointed to Frankie Rodgers as the creator of this fine tune. I believe that he wrote it in the mid to late sixties. Great Canadian fiddler from the Prairies. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Midchuck Date: 24 Apr 00 - 09:13 PM Steve Kaufman does it on his "Bullet Train" recording from 1997, and it's reprinted on Plectrology II. Some purty. Peter. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Sorcha Date: 24 Apr 00 - 08:11 PM Jeri, I have it as an Alaskan tune, the title is supposed to mean Little Owl, but I have seen other documentation that says that is not true. Every setting I have seen/heard is in Em, and it has been in Wyoming for at least 17 years. I have 2 different settings, and still can't play it from memory because of the "closed loops"..If you make a one note mistake, you are back in the wrong place, sort of like Give Me Your Hand. |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: Art Thieme Date: 24 Apr 00 - 08:08 PM I've heard it too--somewhere. I connect it to my time in Oregon--on the coast--1967-68. But that's all I can dredge up. Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: Ookpik Waltz - Any Info? From: GUEST,Arkie Date: 24 Apr 00 - 07:49 PM It is a beautiful tune. I first heard it in California. It took several years to get from there to Arkansas. It is also called the Canadian Waltz. But there are supposedly two tunes called the Canadian Waltz. Gets a little sticky. I am anxious to hear more about this haunting tune. |
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Subject: Tune Add: OOKPIK WALTZ From: Jeri Date: 24 Apr 00 - 07:13 PM A friend sent me this wonderful waltz and asked me to learn it so we could play it in session. He gave the following information:
I got it off the new Altan CD "Another Sky"...I don't have any clue who wrote it, but it's local- Altan heard it from somebody up on Little Deer Isle, Maine and learned it from George Fowler (a friend of [name of mutual acquaintence]). Ookpik is, in Inuit folklore, an owl that carries off the souls of the dead. I swear I've heard it before, maybe even played it. Possibly it's one that Bill Sables does? My question is, does anyone know who wrote it, or have any more information?
MIDI file: ookpik.mid Timebase: 120 TimeSig: 3/4 24 8 This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format:
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