Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: GUEST Date: 02 Sep 01 - 03:39 PM Mastato, Thank you for taking the time to find the answer to the original poster's question. But thank you especially for caring enough to be such a wonderful human being,and actually checking your sources and giving us the cites! How refreshing to see this in Mudcat, where the general presumption is that everyone shooting from the hip is giving a legitimate, knowledgeable answer (or that the Digital Tradition is an archive of high academic standards)! Bravo I say, bravo! |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: masato sakurai Date: 02 Sep 01 - 03:29 PM Dorothy Horseman classifies "Cabin On the Hill" as song of home (chapter 1), not as religious song (chapter 2) in her Sing Your Heart Out, Country Boy, 3rd ed. (Country Music Foundation Press, 1996). It is quite understandable. But she adds an interesting comment:
"Cabin On the Hill" and "This Ole House" are almost religious songs; so strong is the southern reverence for the home that sometimes it approaches a religious fervor. In addition to their secular popularity, both songs are often in a religious context, though neither is a sacred song as such.(p. 4) Masato |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: masato sakurai Date: 02 Sep 01 - 03:59 AM In the notes to Flatt & Scruggs 1948-1959 (Bear Family 4-CD set), Neil V. Rosenburg writes:
The session of April 5th, 1959 produced their first big chart hit--one that would remain on the charts longer than any other Flatt and Scruugs hit. Cabin On the Hill was composed by Mississippi writer B.L. Shook, who was a popular and prolific writer for the James D. Vaughn songbook company; Cabin was first published in Vaughn's 1943 songbook 'Sacred Thoughts'. Recorded in 1949 for Rich-R-Tone by the Mullins Family, it had been in the repertoire of the late Red Rector. When he was a member of Hylo Brown's band, Brown had learned it from him and had then featured it in performances with Flatt and Scruggs. The band received mail about it and so decided to record it, at which point Lester began singing it. This was their first song to feature a five part harmony and in fact there were six voices heard, since two bass voices were used.
This number seems to have been intended as a kind of "sacred thoughts." Can we say the announcer made a mistake? Of course, it depends on the interpretation of the word "sacred." Masato |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: wysiwyg Date: 02 Sep 01 - 02:25 AM So........ does anyone recall verses from some of these traveling into the one JTT first asked about? ~Susan |
Subject: Lyr Add: LITTLE LOG CABIN BY THE SEA (Carter) From: wysiwyg Date: 02 Sep 01 - 02:20 AM And the last one was already posted HERE, with a discussion ensuing of the correctness of a transcription Stewie had made. Comparing it with the Carter site version, and the typos or misheard lyrics indicated there, I came up with the following. ~S~ =========================================================
LITTLE LOG CABIN BY THE SEA |
Subject: Lyr Add: LITTLE POPLAR LOG HOUSE ON THE HILL From: wysiwyg Date: 02 Sep 01 - 01:58 AM Next there was this one. ~S~ =========================================================
LITTLE POPLAR LOG HOUSE ON THE HILL |
Subject: Lyr Add: MY OLD COTTAGE HOME (Carter family) From: wysiwyg Date: 02 Sep 01 - 01:55 AM Cruising around HERE, I found several that I think shed some light on what people were thinking of, when they recalled a gospel song about this. =========================================================
MY OLD COTTAGE HOME
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Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 18 Nov 00 - 03:09 PM Could be that "sacred" is being used in an idiosyncratic, personal meaning, as in "These are sacred memories to me," meaning of deep personal emotional meaning. If so, it could refer either to the song itself, because of some past association, or the images within the song. Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: GUEST,JTT Date: 18 Nov 00 - 03:00 PM Ah, interesting. I could have sworn there was a woman's voice among the raucous and tender chorus, but maybe that's Jake the Tenor. I'm glad to hear nobody cheated on their loving man. |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: Bill D Date: 17 Nov 00 - 11:03 PM coulda confused it "Build Me a Cabin in the Corner of Gloryland" |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: Rick Fielding Date: 17 Nov 00 - 11:02 PM Paul Warren (the fiddler) will be singing bass, Scruggs, baritone, and either Josh Graves, or Jake Tullock (dobro) on Tenor. "Sacred" probably means nobody got murdered, or no wives (or girlfriends) cheated on their men!! Rick |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: kendall Date: 17 Nov 00 - 08:30 PM Maybe he didn't know the difference...there's a lot of that going around! |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: Jim Dixon Date: 17 Nov 00 - 07:44 PM Maybe the announcer just made a mistake. Maybe he had it confused with a different song. |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: GUEST,Pete Peterson Date: 17 Nov 00 - 01:09 PM Gosh I ahven't listened to that record in YEARS. Lester is singing lead, but who answers him I'm not sure. Would bet one of the voices is Buck Graves (dobro) |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: GUEST,JTT Date: 17 Nov 00 - 07:09 AM What I also wonder - and perhaps some Mudcatters can help me here - is who is singing and who's backing up? The intro says Flatt & Scruggs, but who is the rich, soft baritone in the lead, and who the harsh-voiced counterpoints whose singing so perfectly complements his voice? |
Subject: Lyr Add: CABIN ON THE HILL From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Nov 00 - 08:14 PM Ziss it?
Are there any more verses out there that shed light on this? ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: Giac Date: 13 Nov 00 - 07:34 PM Maybe it is "sacred" in that it is one of the "old" standards of bluegrass, and therefore must be revered. You know, like in journalistic circles where a "sacred cow" is an advertiser about whom nothing derogatory may be printed (please[!] no attacks about use of the term -- I didn't make it up). Does the "introduction" sound a bit sarcastic? Does to me if they actually used the term "neighbors." |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: GUEST,JTT Date: 13 Nov 00 - 07:11 PM Nope, no mothers praying. It's called Cabin on the Hill. He remembers the happy childhood home, and muses morosely that he can never more return. Nice song, but sacred? |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Nov 00 - 05:44 PM How about the rest of the words? In some Christian music, a house is used to symbolize the body housing the soul. Or it can symbolize the "mansion" of heaven. Or it may be one of those songs that goes on to talk of dear mother praying; there are a lot like that. Or it can be about supper, which would refer to the Lord's Supper, communion... or to the heavenly banquet, or the table spread in Psalm 23 before one's enemies... Hafta see the rest of the words, these are just possibilities. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Help: Sacred? From: Ebbie Date: 13 Nov 00 - 05:26 PM I know the song and unless they mean that all childhood memories are sacred I can't imagine why it would be considered so. Ebbie |
Subject: Sacred? From: GUEST,JTT Date: 13 Nov 00 - 05:16 PM I'm listening to Bluegrass At Newport, and there's a song which is introduced reverentially as "a sacred number, neighbours". It's Cabin On The Hill, and it starts: As a happy child at home, in my mem'ry I can see... I just can't see what's sacred about it. What is it? |
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