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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Deda Date: 19 Nov 01 - 02:05 PM Just walking into your GP's office? That's the whole technique? He must have a helluva face, or charge something mightily outrageous, if just walking into his office cures both smoking AND tennis elbow. I'd say that brings quackery to an entirely new height. Depending, of course, on what floor his office is on. ;o> |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: GUEST,Raggytash Date: 19 Nov 01 - 01:59 PM Walked into my GP with a fifty a day smoking habit, came out a non smoker and five years down the line still am. Also had tennis elbow "cured" using the same technique. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Little Hawk Date: 18 Nov 01 - 06:01 PM GUEST loves what you said so much that it is having an orgasm. High praise indeed! BTW, GUEST, your post of 16th Nov at 7:11 has to stand as the dumbest, most uncomprehending, dead stupid comment I've ever seen on this forum. Way to go! No wonder you choose to remain anonymous. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: GUEST Date: 18 Nov 01 - 12:15 AM oh, Oh, OH OH OH OH!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Deda Date: 16 Nov 01 - 11:17 PM Little Hawk -- I'm with you. And I love the phrase "shed darkness". As I said earlier, acupuncture has done me a great deal of good. People think that the rigors (read brutality and cruelty) of western medical training combined with the "managed care" system we have in this country -- 15 minutes per patient per visit -- will result in effective treatment? I'm sorry, I don't see it. I have an HMO; I usually ignore it, just scan the newsletter to see if they're sponsoring a yoga class at a convenient time/place. Besides, I happen to believe that my spiritual life defines my physical life, not the other way around -- so I'd far rather be treated by someone whose training and background and belief system acknowledges that "life energy" which western medicine, by and large, disdains. "Guest"'s posts are uniformly fear-based, not how I want to run my life, thanks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Nov 01 - 09:19 PM LOL! You could teach me a thing or 2 about brevity, couldn't you, John? - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 16 Nov 01 - 09:01 PM Oh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Nov 01 - 08:54 PM The se people are anyone not already accepted by 53 as proven and legit, of course, who else? And that largely depends on whom 53 has been listening to between birth and the present day, and whom 53 has faith in as being reliable and authoritative...or not. Life is opinion, and opinions are endless. They don't amount to bugger all next to actual experience. Uninformed people think chiropractors are quacks, and they think the same of acupuncturists. Everyone out there has a selective view of reality, which they have gradually acquired over their whole life from their family, their peer group, their nationality, their religion, and whatever other influences were around them. Then they have a basic psychological nature laid over that. Some people have a natural affection for the conventional viewpoint...others have a natural affection for the unconventional and exotic. Either group are frequently guilty of gross prejudice and misjudgement based on those affections. The only people who can say for sure as to whether chiropractic or acupuncture have value are those who have actually experienced the treatments, and/or seriously studied the techniques involved and learned how it's done. The positive testimonials of those who have benefited from such treatments, sadly, will have as little effect on a person who is already prejudiced against them as pissing into the wind would have against the prevailing weather conditions, because people will generally defend their accustomed prejudices with the tenacity of a pitbull. In so doing, they are defending a psychological identity that it took them a lifetime to create, so no wonder they are so adamant! It's as useless to try to change the mind of a prejudiced person whose prejudice is mere opinion as it is to try to get Democrats and Republicans to be truly fair and objective toward one another. Utterly futile, in fact. Which makes me wonder why I bother? Just can't resist the bait, I suppose...and like the rest of you I naturally rise to defend what has become a part of my personal identity. I know from experience that neither chiropractic nor acupuncture are quackery. Direct experience. Got that? What darkness can you possibly shed on my experience? None. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 16 Nov 01 - 07:54 PM BOB-Who are the se people? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: 53 Date: 16 Nov 01 - 07:42 PM people think that chiropractors are quacks, then what you call the se people? BOB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: GUEST Date: 16 Nov 01 - 07:34 PM What is Hepatitis B ?
By basic definition, hepatitis is an inflammation of the liver. The liver cells are damaged and gradually replaced by scar tissue.
It is usually accompanied by the following clinical symptoms:
Fever HBsAG has been detected in low concentrations in other body fluids including tears, sweat, urine, feces, breast milk, cerebral spinal fluid and synovial fluid. However, these fluids have not been shown to be associated with disease transmission of HBV. The most common mode of transmission is via sexual contact. The transmission of HBV may also occur via percutaneous exposures which include tattooing, ear piercing, acupuncture and by needle sticks. Thus, it is important for the health care provider to be careful with sharp instruments and always make use of Sharps Containers to dispose of used needles and scalpels.
Hepatitis B is the 9th leading cause of death worldwide. Approximately 2 million people die each year primarily from Hepatitis B related cirrhosis and liver cancer. This disease affects an estimated 5 % of the entire world population. More than 200 million people are chronic carriers of the Hepatitis B virus. The Hepatitis B virus is often linked to HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, yet the Hepatitis B virus is far more widespread throughout the world and is 300 times more contagious.
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: GUEST Date: 16 Nov 01 - 07:11 PM You are a lonely person. Your multiple postings indicate a starving need for human interaction.
It was the 2.5 hours of "conversation" and "attention" and "human skin-contact-hunger" which were the "healing touch." It was not the needles.
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: GUEST,cHARLES two Date: 16 Nov 01 - 04:54 PM Acupuncture??..I never see the point cHARLES |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: katlaughing Date: 15 Nov 01 - 05:26 PM Well, I am not going to go into specifics, but I am back from my appt. and I am impressed. We spent 2.5 hours talking about everything, lifestyle, spouse, health challenges, etc., etc. I even told him about Mudcat.:-) He went through 12 years of schooling and combines accupuncture with massage and Chinese herbal medicines. We did nothing today except talk, answer each other's question's, etc. I feel as though I was being treated as a whole person. Even though my doctor tries to do that he never has enough time and still slips into the let's treat teh symptoms, not the cause syndrome. I feel I have just taken a step on a very right path, for me, and I am excited. My first treatment with needles, at which time I will also pick up some herbs, will be on the 21st. I think the most important thing in any kind of medical/healing treatment is that the patient feel as though they are heard and as though someone cares. I feel that is half the battle. This guy went above and beyond and, as a consequence, my mind is already accepting the efficacy of the treatments to come, which is where it is at, anyway, in the mind, first. Thanks everyone for your comments, etc. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Little Hawk Date: 15 Nov 01 - 04:51 PM You're a very thorough fellow, Wolfgang, as always. My estimation of the risks involved in conventional acupuncture treatment were based on: my own direct experience as a patient on numerous occasions...and nothing more than that. I'm sure that an incompetent practitioner could conceivably hurt someone through acupuncture...as readily as through any other known method of medical treatment. Quite a few people have died from vaccinations, surgery, reactions to prescription drugs, radiation treatments, and anything else one might care to mention. So? Look up statistics on those if you have the time and use them to make any point you wish...I'm sure they are there, and will serve to support any point of view impressively if carefully sifted, organized, and quoted. I was merely suggesting that normal acupuncture, carried out by someone who knows what he or she is doing is very unlikely to cause harm to the patient. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Mike Byers Date: 15 Nov 01 - 04:23 PM I tried it for relief from Meneire's and it worked as well as anything else, i.e. not at all. But that's not to say it wouldn't work for someone else; I've talked to a woman who said it helped her quite a bit. And the guy didn't stick me for nearly as much as my regular doc does for an office visit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 15 Nov 01 - 12:26 PM I think Wolfgang's words were factual and not in the least bit "condescending." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Wolfgang Date: 15 Nov 01 - 11:58 AM Peg, any statement of nonexistence ('there is no', 'there never has been') is 'bold' in my language for it implies that one has read every possible source of information which is close to impossible. Of course you are free to chose your words, but had you written e.g. 'I have never come across...' I wouldn't have used the word 'bold'. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Peg Date: 15 Nov 01 - 09:39 AM thanks Wolfgang but I don't "speak boldly" without reason and I do in fact often peruse the New England Journal of Medicine..I had never come across that article you mention..."obviously." Thanks for your corrections, condescending though they appear to be.
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Wolfgang Date: 15 Nov 01 - 05:02 AM 1997 Consensus statement of the NIH on acupuncture Thirty years of active acupuncture research have failed to unequivocally demonstrate its clinical efficacy is a citation from a 1999 summary article in the pro-acupuncture American Journal of Acupuncture.
I can hardly imagine how the conventional acupuncture treatment could possibly hurt anyone writes Little Hawk. Just to help a little bit your imagination here's one of several articles about possible harms (they are easy to find if you care): This is not to say that other treatments are without risks, no effective treatment is, but a no-risk statement concerning acupuncture is at best uninformed. I personally run away from any physician who tries to tell me that there is no risk at all in a treatment. That just shows that he/she is incompetent. Mrrzy has posted what I think is the best summary at this time as for effectiveness.
There has NEVER been a documented case of AIDS infection from an acupuncture needle writes Peg boldly and obviously has never come across this article: A single case should never be treated as conclusive, there are always alternative interpetations and the documentation of any case can be questioned, but 'never' was not the appropriate word to use in the response to Gargoyle. However, the AIDS risk with today's procedures is nil for the reasons Peg and Little Hawk have given. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Nov 01 - 06:44 PM Yep. A good practitioner is vital, whether you turn to conventional or alternative therapy...or both. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Jane 2001 Date: 14 Nov 01 - 06:41 PM I had it for back trouble. It didn't help because what I actually needed was a built up shoe, but it cleared my blocked sinuses instantly and dramatically. I'm an enthusiastic convert to reflexology/aromatherapy massage, though. I suppose with all these things it depends on getting a good practitioner. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: GUEST,Deda Date: 14 Nov 01 - 06:03 PM I've had acupuncture many times for many things. I trust eastern medicine much more than I do traditional, western docs, for most things. Acupuncture helped me through the first week or so of quitting smoking after 18 years--and that was some 15 years ago now. I don't think I could have gotten through quitting without it -- but I know others for whom it didn't work. It has also helped me a LOT with symptoms of menopause. It matters a lot who you go to, should be someone certified and experienced. The argument that aids can be transmitted by the needles is ridiculous, they are sterile and used only once, as has been pointed out. I'll be very curious to know whether it helps you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: captain wheels Date: 14 Nov 01 - 05:46 PM I have been practising acupuncture on the nhs for 11 years following three years traditional chinese training. It works well for some and has no effect on others and I've only had one bad reaction in all these years which was a metal allergy to the needles. the only decent research done in GB has shown that it is effective for travelsickness,morning sickness and post chemo nausea. good luck you might be one of the lucky ones but as a rule if youre no better after 6 gos forget it |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Cllr Date: 14 Nov 01 - 05:11 PM Jeffp Just trying to keep us pinned down to the essentials.Cllr |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: jeffp Date: 14 Nov 01 - 04:23 PM Good point, Cllr! jeffp |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Cllr Date: 14 Nov 01 - 04:09 PM Dead horse I'm a catholic and if Jesus/God doesn't have a sense of humour I'm in big trouble already. So don't worry about trying to give us the needle. Cllr |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Blackcatter Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:58 PM Dead Horse... I'm not a Christian (so called or not) but that was an unfortunate joke. I hope your mom is a member of Mudcat and catches you saying things like that. Like nearly all medical treatments, accupunture works best when prescribed in concert with other forms of treatments. And Chinese medicine practitioner worth his or her MSG would always look at the whole range of treatments. I have a friend that is a Psychologist, Accupunturist/Accupressurist, Homeopath and Chinese Herb prescriber. His education of the traditional medicines took as long as did his psychology degree. With the combination, he has a healthy practice that functions much like a typical psychiatrists practice without all the scary Western drugs. pax yall |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Les b (U.K.) Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:45 PM It sorted both myself and my wife's Hayfever out for about 15years. Short lived? everythings relative I suppose. Les |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Dead Horse Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:41 PM Jesus Christ tried it, and look what it did for him ;-) (running away and hiding from so called "Christians") |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Mrrzy Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:13 PM My understanding from the research on acupucture is that it works quite well for ACUTE pain (dentistry, etc) but it does not RELIABLY work for anything else, even other kinds of pain. Of course, the more you believe in it the better anything will work, but I have never tried it myself; Mom tried it for chronic pain, no help, and that was before I started looking into it. It is NOT quackery per se, but boy can quacks do acupuncture... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Little Hawk Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:05 PM Peg - Right on. Acupuncture needles come in a sterile package, they are used ONCE and then discarded. They are so thin that you hardly feel them going in (sometimes a slight prickling sensation or a very small stinging for a second or two). The amount of electrical energy that exits the body through the needle can be quite dramatic, sometimes raising a small red swelling around the base of the needle's entry...or it can be very subtle. Sometimes you feel it happening, sometimes you don't. Gargoyle must be talking about Vinnie, the "acupuncturist" who works in the alley behind Ed's Diner and uses coat hangers to terminate pregnancies.... I can hardly imagine how the conventional acupuncture treatment could possibly hurt anyone, and the fact that it does help in a number of ailments has been public knowledge for so long in so many parts of the world that to call it "quackery" is an indication of nothing more than the most benighted ignorance of the subject or blind prejudice, which is pretty much the same thing. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Peg Date: 14 Nov 01 - 09:20 AM I agree acupressure is every bit as marvellous as acupuncture; and no needles. I had acupuncture for my shoulder years ago and have had very little trouble with it since; used to have debilitating muscle pain, so bad when it went into spasm I could not move my neck or even get out of bed without a lot of effort...anyone who knows me knows I am pretty healthy and most find it hard to believe I used to have a somewhat chronic pain condition; thank you Chinese medicine! Gargoyle, you are an idiot and, I suspect, a liar. One does not "catch" fibromyalgia" and there has NEVER been a documented case of AIDS infection from an acupuncture needle. No acupunturist worth their salt would ever reuse a needle in any case...no need to, they're cheap.
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Trevor Date: 14 Nov 01 - 08:48 AM My GP is a trained acupuncturist and suggested a course of treatment for neck pain after a car acident. I was quite sceptical but, as nothing else had worked, thought that I would give it a go. He told me that the first session would probably have little effect on the pain but that I should bring somebody to drive me home as one effect may be drowsiness. His prediction was pretty accurate - I felt knackered for about an hour afterwards but then as high as a kite for the rest of the day. After the second treatment there was short-term pain relief and again the drowsiness followed by a feeling of euphoria. I had eight treatments in all, about once a week, and felt that probably the healing process had been a natural one which would have happened anyway, but that the short-term pain relief had made the healing period more comfortable. The doc did explain to me that the process releases natural endorphins which are about a dozen times stronger than cocaine and which will therefore have a pretty big effect on the body. One other side effect for me was that it affected my sleep patterns. I was quite surprised when the doc asked me if I was having any problems sleeping - he heard this quite a lot apparently. I did pass out on one occasion. One of the needles that he put in my arm as a kind of local analgesic moved around when I waggled my fingers and it felt so odd that, being the original twat, I flaked out. I've since been back to him for another course of treatment to help me through related aches and pains (on this occasion he passed a low electric current through the needles - it didn't seem to make much difference) and, fom being very doubtful about the value of acupuncture would now consider as part of any healing regime I was undertaking. I think as well that I would use it for a general boost of 'feelgood', if I felt I needed it (which I generally don't 'cos I have a nice life anyway). I should add that my GP uses predominantly 'conventional' Western techniques but is so convinced about the efficacy of acupuncture that he sees it as an essential part of his Doc's kit. And he provides it on the NHS. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: mooman Date: 14 Nov 01 - 03:22 AM I haven't tried acupuncture but have had courses of acupressure which use the same "energy points" and general principles but the treatment takes a bit longer. In my case it was a qualified practicioner and I was impressed with the results. Worked very well for joint stiffness and tendonitis for me. Best regards mooman |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: katlaughing Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:30 AM Thanks, everyone. Garg, afraid you're not going to get rid of me that easily, but thanks for the advice on blood pathogens. This practitioner uses only disposable, sterilised needles. And, I am going with the full knowledge of my regular ol' M.D. whom I have no intention of forsakin'...poor thing wouldn't know what to do without my bright smile once in awhile. Have you had a hug, lately? If you'd get out to some Mudcat gatherings you'd get plenty of them. I will never go to a chiro, again, but will go to an osteopath for adjustment. That is not why I am seeking this treatment, though. Don, very cute....you're on a roll this week! So are you saying I should just go find some poor old porcupine and hug it?**BG** Thanks, everyone. I appreciate your comments and suggestions. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Blackcatter Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:16 AM Acupunture is supposed to be practiced by people with licenses. I regularly go to a Chinese medicine school and receive acupuncture as well as other treatments. The practice is considered to work better along with other forms a treatment such as herbs and, depending on the case, western medicine as well. A friend of mine just went through an oral operation where two of her molars were removed and roto-rooted. She went directly to the Chinese medicine school afterwards and had a acupunture treatment as the Novacaine was wearing off. She received a perscription for Western pain medicine as well, but she never needed to use it - heck, she didn't even get the perscription filled. She got 4 daily treatments and at the end everything was fine. Acupunture cleared up my alergies - mild ones, though they were. pax yall
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: CarolC Date: 14 Nov 01 - 12:54 AM I went to an accupuncturist a few times several years ago. I didn't get any relief, but my health problems are very complex.
Re: contracting blood born contagious deseases, an accupuncturist should only use disposable needles. If you don't see him/her take the needles out of the sealed wrapper with your own eyes, don't use that practitioner. And watch out if he/she tells you you're going to get the "dragon treatment". That's done on the ankles and hurts like hell. I have no idea whether or not it works. It might be worth it if it does. Didn't do a thing for me, but I didn't stick with it for very long (ran out of money). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Nov 01 - 11:32 PM Huh? What are you on about, Gargoyle? Have you ever had a talk with the Chinese about this method of treatment? Who said anything about forsaking "proven medical fields"? The Chinese practice in all of those fields, and they normally consider acupuncture to be one of them, in fact. Where is the dychotomy? - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Nov 01 - 11:28 PM Garg old buddy, let me help you out here............. Miofibralgia? Could you mean Fibromyalgia? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 13 Nov 01 - 11:24 PM One friend got aids, another got miofibralgia, a third got hepititis A,B and C, a forth ignored her symptoms and died. All from different practictioners.
If it waddles, has bill and is full of fluff it is probably a QUACK!
If you still decided to go through with it, then continue with your current medical practitioner and get tested on a regular basis for blood borne pathogenes.
You must be mighty desperate or "lonely for human touch" to have forsaken the proven medical fields.
Our prayers and healing circles are with you Kat, don't give up yet!
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:46 PM Acupuncture works quite well for a number of ailments, while it probably is no panacea. Hesperis and I have had a number of acupuncture treatments for various allergies. In her case, the treatments have resulted in a dramatic and permanent cessation of several serious allergies to various substances. This was a case of her being quite unable to tolerate exposure to various common foods and substances prior to treatment...and having absolutely no adverse reactions to same from 24 hours after the treatment to many months later. One treatment. No more allergy. This was in the case of allergies that had made her miserable for many years. In my case the allergies were quite mild (unlike hers) and the results of the treatments were similarly mild. No dramatic news to report, just a slight overall improvement in general health. I have also experienced acupuncture as a dental anesthetic and it worked rather well for that. I have quite a lot of back trouble, but have turned mostly to chiropractic for that...haven't tried acupuncture. Since the principle behind acupuncture is to discharge blocked-up energy (which is not flowing freely) out of the body at key junction points, so to speak, I can see why it would only temporarily help a back problem based on structural imbalances. The imbalances would soon create more blocked energy, and you'd have to do it all over again. This is also true with chiropractic adjustment to a great extent. I have scoliosis (curvature of the spine), and a chiropractic treatment will only temporarily relieve pain from built-up tension, but it's better than no treatment at all. I imagine acupuncture would work in much the same fashion for that. Hope this helps. PM Hesperis for more info. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: GUEST Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:26 PM have to agree with Spaw i'm afraid it did nothing for me kat.. but sometimes it takes a few visits to find the right spot to help. They also can attach a mild eletrical charge to the needles, which i'm told can stimulate relief... fraid my own opinion is that it was not worth the money...sorry... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: DonMeixner Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:23 PM It was acctually discovered in two places at once on the planet. In china and in the Adirondaks of New York State. It was discover that warriors coming back from battle with the Mongols who were suffering arrow wounds found that other ills had disappered. One dying soldier from Kunlun was offered a cigarette and is recorded to say. "No thanks Huang Po, I suddenly don't feel the urge for nictotine." Then he passed away from an arrow wound to left kidney and one in his left ear. In New York an Abenaki was fleeing from some mightily pissed off Oneidas when he fell over a log and dislocated his knee. The pain was unbearable but the stoic Indian kept on heading north towards Canada. The Abenaki and the pursuing Oneidas exchanged volleys of arrows, spears, tomahawks and skinning knives at each other until both sides were without weapons. Finally as the Canadian was just about to cross over into the Saranacs an Oneida brave indesparation picked up a road killed porcupine and threw it at the Abenaki. The quills stuck in the lower part of the Abenakis back releiving the pain in his knee where by he made good his escape onto the St Lawrence flood plain and down river. The Oneida got several quills in his hand which immediately cured a nasty bout of constipation. The treatment technique got its original name of porcupuncture from this procedure. Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:21 PM I tried one when I was having all the back problems about the time Karen and I got married. I was trying anything from chiropractors on in trying to find some relief. As others have said, it was very short lived, but for a couple of hours I had very little pain. For long term pain relief I had back surgery. I'm not knocking holistic approaches but there are some things that they can't fix, several herniated discs for instance. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: SINSULL Date: 13 Nov 01 - 09:28 PM Yes, kat. For stress. Relief was immediate but shortlived. Absolutely painless. I have found that a good facial costs less with longer lasting results plus my complexion has improved. I know many who use it for chronic pain with positive results. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: 53 Date: 13 Nov 01 - 09:24 PM i went to a chiropracter instead. BOB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Date: 13 Nov 01 - 08:58 PM Kat, my wife tried it this summer for back pain. Relief was short-lived, and she has stopped. She is trying to get into a local doctor-sponsored pain clinic. Acupncture didn't help in her case, but try it- all you can lose is money. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: Celtic Soul Date: 13 Nov 01 - 08:21 PM I have, and I *loved* it. It was recommended to me that I only see someone who is a "traditional practitioner". Something about treating the body wholistically and all. In any case, I was early on in my CFIDs symptoms, and it helped immensly. I wish I had the cash, or that my insurance covered it. Give it a shot! If it's not for you, you'll know it. |
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Subject: Anyone ever tried accupuncture? From: katlaughing Date: 13 Nov 01 - 08:14 PM I have wanted to try accupuncture for several years and we finally have a practioner here in Casper, so my first appt. is this Thursday. I am not afraid or, nor worried about the needles, but would appreciate hearing from any of you who may have had this type of treatment. Are there any particular general questions I should ask, did it work for you, if so, how well, etc. Thanks! kat |