Folk In Twickenham

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: mike the knife
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 08:54 AM

Ah man what a thought, a day of rugby @ Twickenham followed by a good session. My days on the pitch (here in the US of A) are over, but I can still watch, & a pint & a seat in a cozy bar w/ a good singer would be super. Yacci Da, m the k

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: Leadfingers
Date: 25 Sep 02 - 04:26 PM

Hrothgar.I dont think any one was knocking Max Boyce.As far as I know,he's still going the Working Mens Clubs in Wales.He's a fine singer and wrote some very good songs about the demise of the pits as well as the rugby stuff. Maybe I ought to dredge op some Boycie for Saturday.

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: Hrothgar
Date: 23 Sep 02 - 07:01 AM

Thread drift - don't knock Max Boyce. Picked up an LP in a second-hand shop last month with some pretty fair folk stuff on it. Tracks: Turn! Turn! Turn!; The Waters of Tyne; Bugeilio'r Gwenith Gwyn (Watching the White Wheat); The Cliffs of Dooneen (his spelling); Y Ferch O Penderyn (The Maid of Penderyn); Deportee; Whisky on a Sunday; The Water Is Wide; Will Ye Go, Lassie, Go; Yr Ga'dd Ei Gwrthod (The Rejected Maiden); The Road and the Miles to Dundee; Corrie Doon.

That's a pretty eclectic lot for a bloke who afterwards developed an entire career on catering to Welsh rugby fanaticism. It was made, by the way, in 1977, which was when Welsh rugby was in on of its golden eras

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 23 Sep 02 - 12:05 AM

This is completely beside the point (of course!) but did you know that Twickenham was the original name of Huntsville, Alabama?

(just showing off)

CB

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: breezy
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 05:28 PM

did hamish make an impact at the cabbage p?Did he mention St.Albans? Bum.

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 04:11 PM

Nice thread. I was particularly interested to read Martin's post about the session in Whitton. I grew up in Whitton and lived there for nearly 40 years before moving up to the North-West three years ago. The Albert was my local for years. Does it still have the magic doors that transport you back to 1972 as you walk in?

I've toyed with the idea of moving back down lately but with the cost of houses I don't know. I saw that my parent's old house was back on the market but the price made my eyes water.

I played in a lot of sessions around that area for many years. I played at the Red Cow regularly for about 15 years and I was involved in getting sessions going at the Duke's Head and Molly Malone's in Richmond and at O'Riordan's in Brentford along with some mates from Dublin who also lived in Whitton. I did my share of gigs at the Cabbage Patch as well although I found it got very cliquey in later years.

Quite a lot of musicians lived in the neighbourhood as for a long time it was relatively cheap. Noel Murphy was in Whitton for several years and Elvis Costello lived in the flats opposite the Admiral Nelson (which also had a session for a while in the late 80s). Nigel Portman-Smith, from Magna Carta and later Pentangle used to live near the rugby ground as well.

I played in the Molly Malone's session with a couple of great Donegal musicians, one of whom, Donna Harkin, lived on the Ivybridge estate. She's gone home now, as has Roisin Harrigan, a brilliant Donegal fiddle player who also played with us. Donna was (still is , I'm sure) a great musician and a very generous and wonderful person who did a lot for musicians in the area. Much missed. Long story.

So, Martin, tell us more about this session. Next time I'm down I'll come along. Who plays in it? Anyone I know? Drop me an E-mail on [e-mail] if you get a moment. I'd love to hear news of the old dive.

Slan,

Chris

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: Larkin
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 09:54 AM

I'm near Kingston and would love to get involved but am busy next Saturday. There's a great Irish Session at the Prince Albert in Whitton on Thursdays 9-30 till 1 maybe 2 amand free drink for musos- we can always do with new singers and instrumentalists.

Keep in touch Leadfingers .

Martin ( Larkin)

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: breezy
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 07:51 AM

Saturday Folk nights will be in St.Albans come October at the Blue Anchor, if you have a voice ,bring it along and be be part of the 'Sound' if you have a song with a chorus then bring that too.Also 2nd Sunday in the month at the White Bear, Rickmansworth

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 05:32 AM

The Cabbage Patch is still going - on Sundays. Tonight's guests are ClogIron according to Folk London, and next week's a Singer's Night.

Kitty

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 05:04 AM

There used to be at least two folk clubs in Twickenham, one at the Cabbage Patch, and one at the Crown. We also used to have a session in Henekey's, right on Twickenham junction on Friday nights. There was a club at St mary's college in Strawberry Hill too, and I think someone tried to start one in the Popes Grotto.[For those who wonder about these things, the Pope in question is Pope the writer, not Pope the pontiff.] So it's sad indeed to hear that there's a dearth of folk music in an area I remember with affection. I lived on Hill Rise in Richmond for many years, so I know it well.
Good luck with your enterprise........Giok

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: Mr Red
Date: 22 Sep 02 - 03:38 AM

Steady on Leadfingers - calling Welsh rugby a religion is rather understating the case somewhat. Beware their wroth!

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: Leadfingers
Date: 21 Sep 02 - 10:28 PM

Good Lord!Someone who remembers Max Boyce!Gareth,you also probably remember when the welsh ccould still play rugby.

Subject: RE: Folk In Twickenham
From: Gareth
Date: 21 Sep 02 - 07:11 PM

Near Twickenham ? Hmmm and on a Saturday !

Don't say yer wern't warned, Butty !

Hymns and Arias

by Max Boyce

CHORUS:
And we were singing hymns and arias,
'Land of my Fathers', 'Ar hyd y nos'.

We paid our weekly shilling for that January trip:
A long weekend in London, aye, without a bit of kip.
There's a seat reserved for beer by the boys from Abercarn:
There's beer, pontoon, crisps and fags and a croakin' 'Calon Lan'.

Into Paddington we did roll with an empty crate of ale.
Will has lost at cards and now his Western Mail's for sale.
But Will is very happy though his money all has gone:
He swapped five photos of his wife for one of Barry John.

We told the guard that we're from Wales, and asked 'Is Twickers far?'
He said 'You can catch a 48 man, but it isn't very far.'
On the bus were boys from Blaina who'd been to see the Queen,
So we had a quick Gymanfa aye, it was the greatest Lon don's seen.

We got to Twickers. early and were jostled in the crowd;
Planted leeks and dragons, looked for toilets all around.
So many there we couldn't budge — twisted legs and pale:
I'm ashamed we used a bottle that once held bitter ale.

Wales defeated England in a fast and open game.
We sang 'Cwm Rhondda' and 'Delilah', damn, they sounded both the same
. We sympathized with an Englishman whose team was doomed to fail.
So we gave him that old bottle, that once held bitter ale!

He started singing hymns and arias,
'Land of my Fathers', 'Ar hyd y nos'.

So it's down to Soho for the night. to the girls with the shiny beads;
To the funny men with lipstick on, with evil minds and deeds.
One said to Will from a doorway dark, that she didn't have much on.
But Will knew what she wanted, aye, his photo of Barry John!

And she was singing hymns and arias,
'Land of my Fathers', 'Ar hyd y nos'.

And if any catters want a Glossary to translate from Swelsh to Saxon, PM me

Gareth

Sorry, Leadfingers, but you asked for that !!!!

GW (;->)

Subject: Folk In Twickenham
From: Leadfingers
Date: 21 Sep 02 - 04:05 PM

Next Saturdat The Rising Sun, Richmond Road,Twickenham has a try out Folk Night with me ego tripping with P.A. and assorted instruments.Sadly no PEL,so it isnt a session but any Catters who are at all local would make MY evening If it looks viable,maybe we can talk him into a PEL and turn it into a session,as there doesn't seem to be a lot of Folk on a Saturday in West London.