BS: Good Things About G. Bush

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Richie
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 09:50 PM

I think Bush has guts. And I think he's not afraid to take risks to get things done.

It's not easy being the President of the US.

-Richie

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Frankham
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 06:31 PM

Doug R,

You might want to leave out the "you liberals" if you wish to make a point. Actually, I do have some compassion for Bush. I believe that he is probably emotionally disturbed and is obsessed with avenging the threats to his father. I believe that he also feels that it's his right for him to have his oil interests. I don't hate the guy. I feel that his administration is taking the country down the wrong path. It's a kind of World War II mythology that Sadam is a "Hitler" and this requires the same kind of policy that was prevalent then. It's out of date and of synch with the world today. In that way, Bush is an anachronism. If he does have information about "terrorism" that the public should know, why doesn't he share it? Why all this secrecy? Why all this hysteria?

I agree that name-calling doesn't get it. I am a liberal (even left of that) that believes that issues need to be discussed, not personalities dissed.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 06:30 PM

Bev and Jerry: I think what you propose is entirely possible. However, where we disagree is you think Bush is a dumbo, I don't.

I would like nothing better than to see Saddam flee the country and take refuge in Saudia Arabia, Libya, or some other Arabic country. Then there would be no war, and I believe Bush would be as happy as the three of us would be.

Both Powell and Bush, in speeches this week, suggested that that would be a good out for Saddam.

If he were to escape to another country, McGrath and others could then begin promoting a plan to subject Saddam to a trial before the "World Court." He could be tried as a war criminal for commiting crimes on his own people.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 05:13 PM

Bev and Jerry - That's an interesting scenario, but it leaves out the war...so I don't think it would fit well with Bush's plans at all. It's like when they had those 2 A-bombs in 1945, which they had spent an incredible amount of money on developing... Well, gee, they just had to use 'em somewhere, and justify the effort, see? Even though Japan was already basically helpless, and was seeking a negotiated settlement with the USA through Russia...even though it was Russia's attack in the last few days of the war on Japan's forces in Manchuria (NOT the A-bombs) that convinced the Japanese it was no use to continue resisting any longer...

There is nothing more compelling than having all the best weaponry in place, ready to fire off all guns...why it's downright irrestible....and then not do it? I don't think so. Think of the lucrative resupply contracts that would be lost to the guys who make cruise missiles alone! This is why I think your scenario is unlikely. Of course, they could always save the stuff for Iran, I suppose, and use Iraq and Afghanistan as staging areas. There's too many of those Ayatollahs to ALL run away...so Iran is a safe bet for a nice high tech war if Saddam does the dirtiest, sneakiest thing possible and skedaddles before the attack.

This is not about "helping" the Iraqui people, guys. If you believe it is, then maybe you believe Hitler was saving the World from an international conspiracy of Jews, Communists, and homosexual wife-beaters too.

If I were Saddam, though, I would give your plan serious consideration, cos from HIS point of view it sounds like a very good plan indeed! And it would royally screw up the works for Mr Bush's propaganda machine.

America needs an unrepentant and defiant Saddam. He is a dream come true for the brass hats. He's even got a little dark mustache. What a guy, eh? Gotta love it.

By the way, I think you will find that the ordinary Iraqui hates the American government and military to the very bone by now. So does the ordinary Saudi. If they were in any position whatsoever to fight America on even terms, you would find that out soon enough. As it is, they have to live in humiliation and bitterness, as does much of the 3rd World, and wait for the Empire to fall through its own corruption and blindness.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 01:20 AM

Doug: You're gonna like this.

Bush is not our favorite person. He's not our least favorite, either. There's Hitler, Ghengis Kahn and Sadaam to name a few that are worse. But, there's a chance he might be on to something here. Suspend your disbelief for a few moments and hear us out.

The U.S. is poised to attack Iraq and, from all indications, will proceed to do so no matter what. If that happens, Sadaam will have to hastily pack up his palaces and move to Yemen, Lybia, Sudan or wherever lest he be captured and tried for war crimes. If he's hated by the Iraqis half as much as we're led to believe, once he's gone there will be no resistance to the U.S. military. In fact, we are told, the only reason he has not been overthrown already is that, if the coup fails, a lot of folks will die. In short, they're justifiably afraid to come out against Sadaam today because he may be there tomorrow and he's been known to kill one or two people.

Now, if the attack begins, the U.S. will gain air superiority on day one and any Iraqi aircraft will be shot out of the sky. Since none of his safe havens are nearby, walking or taking a taxi will be very difficult. So, he must depart Iraq before the attack actually begins.
If he leaves, the uprising may take place and we won't actually have to start the attack and we could get rid of him without firing a shot.

His cue to depart will be the withdrawal of the U.N. inspectors. As long as they're there, he has nothing to worry about.

We know, we know. This sounds way to elegant for Dubya to comprehend let alone think up. But maybe someone on his staff thought it up and convinced him it would work.

It's possible.

Bev and Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Art Thieme
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 01:16 AM

We went to Spain to get rid of Fascists.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: DougR
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 12:45 AM

Boy! One thing you liberals can't be accused of is ...compassion. Such vitrolic language from folks who profess to be peace loving and promoters of "love everbody."

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 08:12 PM

The good thing about Dubya is that he left Texas. . .sorta. He sure left one heckuva mess behind. Too bad no one in the rest of the U.S. bothered to pay attention--and the Comptroller conveniently failed to mention it at election time.

"Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing its idiot"

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Art Thieme
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 06:09 PM

James K. Polk was the first "DARK HORSE" candidate in American election history.

Does that make him one of the Nazgul??? (the Dark Riders?)

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Art Thieme
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 06:04 PM

Pardon me, I meant FRODO !!!!!!!!!!!!! (But you knew that???)

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Art Thieme
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 06:00 PM

One "good" thing is that as he ages he looks more and more like that worm-like shrivelled prune of a guy that Annekin Skywalker (Darth Vader) had turned into by the time he was finally dealt with. Like GOLLUM in the Lord Of The Rings, the "dark side" had done it's sad work on them both. In just two years as president, look at the changes in G.W.B. ! I can barely look at him these days. Soon everone will be able to see what I'm talking about----and that is why this is a GOOD thing. It happened to The Picture Of Dorian Gray as well. Once again, as in that other thread about Bush, Ahab and Hamlet, real life is sadly immitating art and/or literature.

Love,

Art Thieme (and remember, Gollum gave his finger for you !!!)

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: GUEST,Taliesn
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 09:04 AM

My God, I read thorugh this entire thread a "no one" mentioned
on of the most important "good thing" about Bush's character in the land where "character matters".

Namely that he's a "recovering" alcoholic and cocaine abuser.
I mean he says he had his "conversion" when he was 40 which means he was still partying it up during the Decadent 80's while daddy was Reagan's vice pres so there was this "get-outta-jail-free" card always in his back pocket even while he was a "failed" business man.
True ,so was Harry S, Truman ,but then Harry S, Truman didn't have Daddy Bush's "golden spoon" connections. Which is the better measure of character then?
Conclusion: Dubya is "no" Harry S. Truman.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: alanabit
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 07:49 AM

Doug, if we called this thread "Things I hate about George Bush Junior" the thing would never end!

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 07:32 AM

I thought the thread would be empty (but then I am a bystander)

He gave me my previous work screensaver - the words of the West Texas Ratepayer's Assn (I hope I got that right) spokesman when George was still Governor & a Democrat was trying to take his job. Both used the same stats to prove diametically opposed statements.

"Statistics will say anything if you torture them enough" - a perfect screensaver as I work with offical (Australian) government figures all day!

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 03:11 AM

Somehow,Doug R, I find it hard to beleive those polls. No one I speak to supports him like you do. No one. I find that puzzling.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: stevetheORC
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 03:11 AM

Hi Guy's

Are you telling me that G.W. is married to an Orang-Utang????
That would explain a lot.
Personaly I think that Miss Lewinsky would not want to go anywhere near his crotch, she has taste :>)))


ORC'S are not just for xmas we last for ever.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: GUEST,Jim Clark..London.England
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 01:56 AM

Bill D...what a brilliant photo...it gave me a real good laugh ha ha...Lets get our priorities right with a war on the horizon..at least young Georgie doesnt murder the saxaphone....

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 01:29 AM

There's a lot of humor in Bush.. oh wait... I mean about Bush. Hey- on this site there is even a songbook about him.
Peace. Rustic

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 01:19 AM

Yeah, sure, but if itd been a fair and open erection I would have won, eh?

Just don't invade Canada you flippin losers or we will get SERIOUS EH!?

BDiBR

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: leprechaun
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 01:14 AM

Even though twenty-six of you voted against him, and two of us voted for him, he still won the election.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 12:07 AM

Well, LH, I can't really say I am a Sadammophile.....(grin)......but I damn sure ain't a Bushophile..........or a Shrubophile either.........let's just hope the Planet survives til the next election, and that SOMEBODY (any party)with a little intelligence, honesty, etc, is available.......and can buy the election.

Slan! to the Planet............let's hope it survives a few more thousand years so that Lily Ani can have grandbabies..........

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 12:05 AM

It was back in the days of the first George Bush that my cousin (a Republican Floridian) said to me, "I think the George Bush is the finest President we've ever had!" I looked him in the eye and siad, "I think he's the finest President since Chester Alan Arthur." My cousin had no idea how to respond to that one, and silence ensued.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: DougR
Date: 30 Jan 03 - 12:00 AM

True, L.H., but I plod along anyway (with some welcome help from time to time). Thank goodness, according to all the polls, GWB's popularity with the majority in the U. S. is still very high, as it should be.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:57 PM

LOL! Man, Doug, you must feel sometimes like you are serving time in purgatory here...

Let's face it, G.W. is not too popular with the rank and file of us socialistic, malcontent, subversive, soft-on-communism, Saddamophiles...but...I'm still glad he doesn't look or sound like Jerry Lewis. It could be a lot worse.

And it is all just opinion.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: DougR
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:46 PM

Why not rename this thread, "Things I hate about G. Bush.? It would be far more appropriate.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Deda
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:44 PM

Unlike various Roman emperors (post Augustus), he has never done any of the following, at least as far as we know so far:

Appointed his horse to the senate.
Murdered his mother and/or brother.
Married, impregnated, and then killed his sister.
Declared himself the reincarnation of Hercules, and insisted on being portrayed wearing a lion's skin and carrying a club.
Entered professional chariot races and/or other athletic competitions (and won every time, because anyone who beat him would be murdered)
Entered singing and musical performance contests, same rules, same results.
Paraded around the capital in heavy make-up and women's clothes, and worked nights as a high-class male prostitute.
Ordered the wives of senators to report to him for sex.
Ordered members of the senate who disagreed with him to commit suicide (usually by falling on their swords -- but opening one's veins was also acceptable).
Built himself a palace which took up a full 25% or more of the capital city, with a sprinkler system containing perfume.

Gee, what a great guy.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:41 PM

All the above, and
He loves his mummie????
Maybe????

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Mudlark
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:35 PM

Ah, Little Hawk, I always enjoy your take on things.

For myself, I've never seen better shifty eyes...And no pres. since nixon has beem able to make me so ashamed of the leader of my country...

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:21 PM

he has better taste than Bill Clinton.....for example he would NEVER let Monica Lewinsky near his crotch

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:09 PM

Well hell, this is easy!!!!

*** He gives good smirk.

*** He has given the term "Ugly American" an actual face...body too!!!

*** He has elevated the place in history of Warren G. Harding, Rutherford B. Hayes, Herbert Hoover, and William H. Taft.

*** He is the first snake to sell his own oil.

*** He is the first president to have his colo-rectal exam make the world news, giving proof to all of what an asshole he is.

*** For the first time in many years, many people have had pleasant thoughts of Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson.

*** He brightens the future for all C students.

*** He has been a positive force in the great "Nature versus Nurture Debate".....Both sides claim victory!!!

*** He has proven himself a great linguist, being able to mispronounce words out of both sides of both mouths on both faces!

*** As the all-American boy, he has made his Daddy proud.

*** He has a distinct image. He is the walking embodiment of a dick...not a hard on...just a dick.

*** Being the first president of the 21st century, he sets a standard that only the very few will be able to sink below.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:07 PM

He's found a new way to pronounce "NUCLEAR"!

You'd think the man with the pack of matches in his shirt pocket,and access to the fuse,could at least pronounce it correctly!

BE AFRAID........BE VERY AFRAID!

J.W."NOOK-YEW-LER"Bush.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Tweed
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:05 PM

Heck he's the common man's common man. I expect he even eats meals and and breathes air. still....there's just sumpin' not quite right about the feller....I can't put my finger on what zackly, but it'll surely come to me in time....
Yerz,
Tweed

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 07:58 PM

He doesn't look or act like Jerry Lewis. This may account for the French dragging their heels on supporting his latest war of aggression. I think it's about time to arrange a hit on another French tanker or something like that in order to bring them to their senses...maybe get some CIA guys to bomb the Eiffel Tower, and blame it on Hassan the hotdog vendor.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: GUEST,Casual Observer
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 07:57 PM

He's just a guy.

You're right - anyone can be President. Remember Andrew Jackson & Abe Lincoln? Backwoodsmen with no formal education. The only requirements for President are, you have to be a certain age (I think it's 35), and you have to have been born in the United States. That's all. No prerequisites with state government or the Senate or the House, no requirements for college degrees or doctorates or any of that.

Surely some of you are aware that on September 11, Bush insisted on going back to Washington right away, and the Secret Service wouldn't let him do it. The first thing he wanted to know was if his wife and daughters were safe.

He wanted to go. They wouldn't let him. Then a bunch of people complained about "why didn't he go back to Washington right away."

He carries his own dog.

People aren't always what they seem, and no one can be liked by everyone. But I think a lot of you have the President all wrong. No, I didn't vote for him, but I'm willing to give him a chance.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 07:45 PM

He likes dogs... He's a team player (if you believe in his team)... He proudly carries and sustains his family traditions... He knows well how to threaten war... He is just about the best 'swaggerer' I have ever seen... He doesn't clutter up his speeches with heady intellectual jargon... His head is in the clouds, but his feet are firmly planted on the ground... He is really good at projecting a 'feelgood' nuance towards people who have most of the money... But, best of all,... and most of all, George has cleaned up the White House's sex scandals, which were threatening to destroy 'fundimental' life as we know it... And he has delivered us from the vulgar notion that politicans should be hard working and well informed about global diplomacy... ttr

*BG*

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 07:20 PM

I believe even more so, now, thanks to him, that Pinnochio really is a real boy.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: BEK
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 07:19 PM

He's not in Texas so much anymore???

His Open Records policy has every librarian who is NOT married to him ready to scream?

He likes Creme Brulee???

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: NicoleC
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 07:10 PM

He's given new life to the phrase, "In America, ANYONE can become President!"

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 07:09 PM

He has given the word "moron" a new lease on life.

Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: CarolC
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 06:53 PM

I don't think they'll try to keep GW in office beyoned the maximum eight years. After GW they've got Jeb. And after Jeb, they've got that nephew whose name I can't remember right now. So that's 24 years total accounted for. After the nephew, they'll have a whole new generation of Bushes to perpetuate the presidential dynasty. Easy peasy.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: toadfrog
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 06:43 PM

Hey! I agree with misophist! By official test, Polk is rated right up there with Jackson, Jefferson, and W. Wilson. And what's so bad about Tyler?

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Gareth
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 06:40 PM

Err ! NicholeC - Don't you mean "Provided we still live then" ????

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Tinker
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 06:02 PM

He got my kids to go to bed early... the other option was to watch him...

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: NicoleC
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 06:00 PM

Worst case scenario, he's out of office in 6 years. (Provided we still live in a democracy then.)

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: mack/misophist
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 05:55 PM

I don't like to see John Knox Polk denigrated. Unlike bush, he had some good points and did some good things.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 05:50 PM

hmmmm. Well... hmmmm. hmmmm... (I don't even care for Laura. Or his brothers. Or his papa. Or frankly, even his mama. Sorry.) Wait. I found one: He seems to be able to read those children's books.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 05:35 PM

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That's about it fir me, thank you.

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 04:51 PM

He won't live forever, and maybe we'll live to forget him, like Polk, or Tyler

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: CarolC
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 04:41 PM

I think he's got some humanity in him. I see him welling up with tears and his lower lip trembles whenever he talks about our service men and women getting killed in our wars of agression against other countries. My take, based on the way his face behaved during last night's State of the Union speach, while saying we would do everything possible to minimize the numbers of US troops killed, is that he's expecting heavy losses on our side if we attack Iraq.

But he has signed a pact with the devil and he can't get out of it very easily now ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 04:40 PM

As I mentioned on another thread, I liked his suit.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: alanabit
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 04:25 PM

I'm going to have to work on this. Got it. He combines the intellect of Ronald Reagan with the moral standing of Richard Nixon.

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 04:23 PM

he provides lots of good comedy material....

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: artbrooks
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 04:20 PM

Huumm...thinking hard...he isn't overweight? Or else he has a really good tailor...

Subject: RE: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 04:19 PM

I like that electric blue tie and he gives good eyebrow.

A

Subject: BS: Good Things About G. Bush
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 04:17 PM

I think we should also discuss the good things about that pathetic l'il shrub, so I'll start:

I think that most of his hair is his own.
He's got a librarian for a wife.