Lyr Req: Hello, Patsy Fagin / Fagan

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hello, Patsy Fagin / Fagan
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 05:43 AM

Is this about the snooker player?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hello, Patsy Fagin / Fagan
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 07:39 PM

I can't see the text, either, because Google hasn't made it available, and they probably won't, unless the publisher gives them permission, because the book is still under copyright. Maybe it was a bad idea to post a link. All it shows is that Google says that the book exists somewhere, and Google gives you some possibly useful links to vendors and to other books on related subjects.

If you click on the link "Find in a library" it will take you to WorldCat.org which might show you where to find the book in a library near you. At least it works in the US if you type in your Zip Code. I don't know how well it works in other countries.

You said the book is "pretty derivative." That might be true, but I failed to find this particular song in any other book.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hello, Patsy Fagin / Fagan
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 06:47 PM

G'day Jim Dixon,

I tried 'clicking' on your link ... but only get a 'sales' site view of the book - not contents. I seem to remember that this was a pretty derivative collection (alternately ... a good 'sampler' for some organisation peripherally connected to the local folk song genre ...).

Anyway, as I mentioned, in my post some 4½ years back, versions of the song certainly came here with our immigrant community ... and were collected / published / occasionally sung by revival folk groups ... but also, as in my example, still remembered by what was left (then: something like ~ 35 years back!) of traditional rural workers! Interestingly - my memory is about the same year the Folk Lore Council of Australia published Rose Sayers' compilation.

This is a land ... now settled by the descendants of rovers, of one sort or another (and a few survivors of the original owners!) ... so we have all sorts of 'survivals' hidden away in someone's recordings and/or notes - and the occasional interesting survival somewhere 'out bush'!

Regards,

Bob

Regards,

Bob

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hello, Patsy Fagin / Fagan
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:23 PM

If you Google with the phrases "You're a decent lad from Ireland" and "patsy fagan", it brings up the book:

Australian Folksongs of the Land and Its People by Rose Sayers; Folk Lore Council of Australia (Kilmore, Vic.: Lowden Pub., 1974), page 103.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hello, Patsy Fagin / Fagan
From: clueless don
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 09:56 AM

The Irish Rovers recorded it as "Hello, Patrick Fagan".

Don

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hello, Patsy Fagin / Fagan
From: GUEST,Tom Dakin
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 07:15 AM

Hello Patsy Fagin you can hear the girls all cry
Hello Patsy Fagin you're the apple of my eye
You're a decent lad from Ireland and there's no one can deny
You're a harum scarum devil make darum decent Irish boy

You're up early every morning and you've got a decent job
Carrying bricks and morter and the pay is fifteen bob
Carrying bricks an morter you're as happy as lark
You're a harum scarum devil make darum
Hear the girls remark

This is how Iremember my mother singing it to me many years ago
hope it helps.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Hello, Patsy Fagin / Fagan
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 May 09 - 12:33 PM

In fact, in Walton's sheet music, "as sung by Angela Murphy", it's You're a rarem-tarem, divil-may-carem Dacent Irish Boy"!
No mention, incidentally, of Keenan on the page - just the arranger.

Regards

Subject: RE: Hello, Patsy Fagin
From: Reiver 2
Date: 16 May 06 - 05:11 PM

One slight change from the lyrics posted through the link Malcolm posted : I believe the phrase is "harum-scareum" (or perhaps more phonetically, hairum-scarum) and NOT "rarum-scarum."

Reiver 2

Subject: RE: Hello, Patsy Fagin
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 16 May 06 - 06:41 AM

G'day again,

This is the entry on Patsy Fagan in the (CD-R edition) of Ron Edwards' Index:

Australian Folk Song - An Index of Australian Folk Song 1788 - 2000, Ron Edwards, The Rams Skull Press, 12 Fairyland Road, Kuranda, 4881, Far North Queensland, Australia:

Patsy Fagan
1. I left my home in Ireland, 'twas many years ago.
2. Hullo Patsy Fagan, you can hear the girls all cry.
1. Collected and arranged by Alan Scott from P. Crowley of Bankstown, NSW, 1956, and an unidentified pair of singers. An Irish song that has been given an Australian setting. *A Collector's Songbook 17 1970; reprinted *Australian Tradition 31/11 1973; Australian Folksongs of the Land & People 103 1974; *The Second Penguin Australian Songbook 68 1980.
2. Collected by Brad Tate from Peggy Tate, Newcastle, NSW 1967. Tate notes that this is an Irish Music Hall song but is sometimes localised by altering part of one line to "working in Aussie", and also that the melody has been used for the[Ned] Kelly song Stringybark Creek. *Down and Outback p.37

BB Note: In fact, the "Australian" changes occur in a couple of places in the collected text.

Regards,

Bob
1988.

Subject: RE: Hello, Patsy Fagin
From: Big Tim
Date: 16 May 06 - 04:56 AM

I should also have added that on the Angela Murphy recording, the composer is given as "Keenan".

Subject: RE: Hello, Patsy Fagin
From: Big Tim
Date: 16 May 06 - 04:49 AM

My mother used to sing this one. She probably learned it from the 1942 recording by Angela Murphy (sister of Delia Murphy). On that record, it was titled "The Dacent Irish Boy".

Subject: RE: Hello, Patsy Fagin
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 16 May 06 - 01:19 AM

G'day GUEST, Peace & Malcolm,

This was obviously a popular song with the rambling Irish ... a version, localised to Australia by just changing the locality names, turns up here ... and was collected ... and still gets sung.

(Some years back, I was setting up camp in beautiful Araluen - at the foot of the Australian Alps, south of Sydney. The only other person in the camping ground was a middle-aged bloke who said he was picking potatoes on a nearby farm. When I introduced myself ... then my wife Pat ... he immediately started singing: "Hello, Patsy Fagan, ...".)

I'll check the collection details for the one in BMC publications (and publish the tune ...) when I get home.

Regards,

Bob

Subject: RE: Hello, Patsy Fagin
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 15 May 06 - 09:18 PM

See also this previous discussion:

Hello Patsy Fagan

Always try alternative spellings.

Subject: RE: Hello, Patsy Fagin
From: Peace
Date: 15 May 06 - 07:58 PM

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:MxGNBy8QUvkJ:irishlyrics.homestead.com/files/patsy_fagan.txt+You%27re+a+decent+boy+from+Irela

You'll have to do the line breaks on yer own. No time now.

Subject: Hello, Patsy Fagin
From: GUEST
Date: 15 May 06 - 07:56 PM

Does anyone have all the lyrics to a song which I remember as going:
Hello, Patsy Fagin every time they pass me by,
Hello, Patsy Fagin. You're the apple of my eye.
You're a decent boy from Ireland.
There's none that can deny-
You're a rare-o fair-o devil-may-care-o lovely Irish boy.