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katlaughing 13 Mar 01 - 01:21 AM
CarolC 13 Mar 01 - 01:40 AM
Spud Murphy 13 Mar 01 - 02:08 AM
wdyat12 13 Mar 01 - 02:29 AM
Chip2447 13 Mar 01 - 03:45 AM
MMario 13 Mar 01 - 09:13 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 13 Mar 01 - 09:16 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 13 Mar 01 - 09:20 AM
GUEST,Pseudolus 13 Mar 01 - 09:22 AM
Big Mick 13 Mar 01 - 10:17 AM
catspaw49 13 Mar 01 - 10:43 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 13 Mar 01 - 11:01 AM
CarolC 13 Mar 01 - 11:18 AM
Matt_R 13 Mar 01 - 11:26 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 13 Mar 01 - 11:29 AM
Matt_R 13 Mar 01 - 11:44 AM
gnu 13 Mar 01 - 11:53 AM
MMario 13 Mar 01 - 12:05 PM
GUEST,Fibula Mattock 13 Mar 01 - 12:06 PM
gnu 13 Mar 01 - 12:18 PM
Matt_R 13 Mar 01 - 12:22 PM
GUEST,Fibula Mattock 13 Mar 01 - 12:24 PM
Mountain Dog 13 Mar 01 - 12:25 PM
katlaughing 13 Mar 01 - 12:33 PM
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Matt_R 13 Mar 01 - 12:39 PM
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tiggerdooley 13 Mar 01 - 02:37 PM
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Subject: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 01:21 AM

Which Mudcatters would be neighbours, which work together, what would the show be like. Would the focus be an actual pub/coffeehouse with Max holding court and us all living within a few blocks? Would Jenellen have a petting farm (animals, only!) just west of town; would Spaw and his crew open their big house up for potluck; would Big Mick have a hill just out back of the pub/coffehouse to climb up and play for us. Or, would we all be in silly situations, i.e. which two of us would be in a Dick Van Dyke show, as Dick and Mary and they go "folk" with all us entertaining with them?

This idea just came up and I thought I'd post it and see what we come up with. You know? Let's write a few episodes, dialogue and all, and see what fun we can have. Take it away, 'Catters...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 01:40 AM

It would be like Cicely, (sp?) Alaska. Only with Mudcatters. And music. The tavern threads would be the Brick. Max would be Chris, I think. Dunno about anyone else.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Spud Murphy
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 02:08 AM

Sit coms, I don't know from page four......is that like that family in West Virginia or some place on a mountaain and they got this stoopid kid named John Boy? If that's the one, then I want to be Grampa, cuz i'm the oldest. But i don't want that kid hanging around me all the time, oozing sacharine and platitudes. I jes wanna go up onna mountain and shoot a bar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 02:29 AM

Kat, I would start watching TV again if Mudcatters had a sitcom. Max, this might be a new outlet for your creative talents. I hear your grumblings from time to time on the show. Just think of the resurgence of Folk and Blues into the mainstream consciouness. These may be hard times coming and we may need all the laughs and sympathy this music gives us. A TV sitcom format for Mudcat as a mirror and barometer of real people may be the next horizon beyond Survivor. There is a lot of need out there for people to identify with something positive. We have all the resources right here on Mudcat, not to mention such a great cast of true characters. What was I thinking?

wdyat12


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Chip2447
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:45 AM

Welcome to the biggest, small town in The World. We like ta make ya feel ta home here in Mudcat Flats. There's Bluegrass in the town square, and Gospel over at the Church. We've got Blues playing down by the river, and Celtic over at the pub. Ya might find some boys and girls harmonizing over ta the Barbershop. The Coffeehouse is a good place at night. If'n ya get a chance ya oughta wander on over bt the railroad tracks. The trains keep pretty good time to a strumming guitar. C'mon back any time ya like, ya always find good music right here in Mudcat Flats...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: MMario
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 09:13 AM

Set in a town like Cicely - that's good, with the MudCat Cafe the 'downtown hangout' - and the major industry in town being the NYCFTTS. Fundraisers for the NYCFTTS having to be constantly run - gives an excuse to bring in folkies from all over. And of course there would have to be someplace to eat. And Radio MudCat - and the annual Mudstock festival, and then you could have this recurring character who runs around trying to get all this folk music down into some sort of an archive, and ...

naw, no one would believe it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 09:16 AM

Don't forget the factory making the Amish moustache tuners and clay possum ocarinas!
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 09:20 AM

..and the wetbacks smuggling in tiples...( a guest spot for Jennifeer Lopez or Ricky Martin!)
Cicely already had an Oasis Cafe, didn't it , Matt?!
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: GUEST,Pseudolus
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 09:22 AM

I think it would be like the Wizard of Oz. Max would be the wizard, perhaps Spaw as the scarecrow, and since this was Kat's idea certainly she should be the lead Dorothy type character. Still need a tin man and Lion (I'd volunteer for the Lion!!!*g*) and of course we cast all of the flamers and trolls (not our own troll of course) as the wicked witches and flying monkeys!! OK it's more like Mudcat, the Movie but it's the first thing that popped into my head! It could work.....

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 10:17 AM

Right..............love the concept............I still get to be "Keeper of the Sacred Fertility Rites", eh?. I got a little seniority here. Where's the spud patch in this friggin' place?? How about the thong factory? Just make sure you don't let that damn gorilla on the set.........she scares the hell outta me.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 10:43 AM

For the benefit of those of you who are saying, "What the hell are they talking about?".........Tiples, possums, the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed (NYCFTTS).......Read this thread for a few of the explanations. Also, this guy is Cleigh O'Possum, an ass blown possum ocarina who lives with me. He was made by 'Catter Barbara Blessing and lives for other 'Catters to give him a blow up the bum. Big Mick is still the keeper of the gertility rites and the pursuer of alison the Fair One although he has been caught stuffing his thong with a spud. Sadly he stuffed the back instead of the front and looked like Lassie dropping a load. And if you have never read it, to see the importance of tiples to the joint, HERE is the infamous tiple thread.

Also you older 'Catters need to remember that the FIRST business set up was the "Condom Factory" the idea of which started here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 11:01 AM

There would have to be a harbour as we have so many old seadogs, a paddle steamer on the river for Art. Who would be the kindly local cop/sheriff? Would Peter T be the Thoreau type in a cabin in the woods? Could we avoid the staple soap plots involving long-lost children and multiple intermarriage?
I suspect kat has already worked up a treatment to offer to the major studios!
RtS (scuttling back to the basement boilerhouse at the NYCFTTS)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 11:18 AM

RtS, The town where the show, Northern Exposure, was taped had an Oasis Cafe, but not Cicely, Alaska. Cicely's main watering hole and purveyor of fine cuisine was "The Brick", run by Holling and his lovely lady, Shelly. I think Peter T. would be Chris' brother, Bernard.

The NYCFTTS could be run by Maurice, who could be played by Banjer, maybe. Of course, Maurice would also own the condom factory, the Amish moustache factory, the clay possum ocarina factory, etc...

I think Ebbie would be Ruth Anne. And maybe Little Hawk would be Ed. Hesperis could be Shelly, but she's too smart.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Matt_R
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 11:26 AM

Oh I can DEFINATELY see Mudcat as the Northern Exposure sort of thing. But we'd have to have One Who Waits and Graham Greene as Leonard! I LOVE those guys!

I'd be the dopey neighbor kid, who likes taking pictures, carving katchina dolls (and other wooden things) and playing guitar. Hey, last night I was sitting here in a USMC shirt, shorts, with my head shaved and and my beard half gone and crooked, wearing a felt kepi I've had since I was 12, and playing acoustic versions of Travis song on my guitar. See, I can be a crazy Cicely-esque character too!

And of course we'd HAVE to have EJ as the barman! With Gizmo as his bar helper! And we can have Seamus whip up a batch of his world famous Irish Chili...mmmmmmmmmmmmmm........


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 11:29 AM

Yes, I remember the Oasis sign with palm tree was only seen on the wall as the moose walked past in the opening credit sequence!
There'd also have to be a beauty parlour so all those finger pickers can get their false nails done!
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Matt_R
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 11:44 AM

Ah yes, the Oasis Cafe! Then we could gather round and sing the best Oasis pub sing-a-long ever...Bonehead's Bank Holiday! (see my 2nd tape).


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 11:53 AM

I'd like to be considered for an audition for the part of the moose.

gnu


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: MMario
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 12:05 PM

a gnu as moose? Could be worse, you might get cast as a moussse - but what flavour?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 12:06 PM

Does it have to be a sitcom? Soap operas have far more dramatic plotlines. Actually "Mudcat Flats" as mentioned above, sounds like a grim and gritty slice of BBC drama set on a tenement block with graffiti, drugs and broken glass...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: gnu
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 12:18 PM

Musk, of course.

gnu


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Matt_R
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 12:22 PM

Hey Fib, you mean like "Mile End"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 12:24 PM

as in the place? (or the song?)
Never been there, but I used to live in a place in Dublin that meets the same description.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Mountain Dog
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 12:25 PM

Tho' the neologism is one I've never warmed to, the term "dramedy"* might be more apropos to this ongoing series than "sitcom", especially since the characters round these parts are nothing if not fully-rounded and complex rather than stereotypes and cut-out figures. (Besides, I think the sitcom's obligatory laugh-track would drive us all nuts in short order!)

*A term I first heard in reference to Blair Brown's series of some years back, 'The Days and Nights of ???'


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 12:33 PM

LMAO...I knew I could count on you all to come up with some good ideas!

Fib, no need for it to be sitcom...right after I posted, I knew I should have just said, Mudcat..the TV Show.:-)Right now, we watch so much BBC America, that I think I'd do a better job of writing dialogue for what you've described, than any of the others, yeah? LOL

Gnu, now that my old dog has been gone for a couple of years, you can have the moose part, but just know you are carrying on a great tradition. He was half Dobie/half Shephard/Alsatian and looked exactly like that moose...gangly, mangy, huge ears...there is a black and white of his face on my Photoloft Page in the Mudcatter's Photo Album linked through the Mudcat FAQs Permathread.

So...opening scenes, anyone? Episode storylines? Oh, the othr thing I was thinking, which may not be that farfetched and which someone else has mentioned...we sell it as a Reality Show...Survivors of Paltalk could be one of the subplots...who stayed up the latest in the UK to meet those in Oz for song sharing...then cut to the NYCFTTS for a live vignette ala Cuckoo's Nest where Mash meets Northern Exposure...to UK pagans tramping through the woods to sing up the sun over Stonehenge...to Max shuts down the bar under Mudcat Central...broadcasting live for a straight 24 hours with Bert hanging in there..all the while we've got Our Brothers and Sisters to the North looking for the Northwest Passage and happening up on Skarpi (I know technically it's the other way, but it's not that real) who is tracking down an old Irish ditty up north among the Laplanders...and our Brother to the South, Andres/Escamillo leads a team of toreadors bullfight protest songs (he doesn't like them, he said)....well...you get the drift, yeah?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 12:36 PM

I like it, Mountain Dog!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Matt_R
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 12:39 PM

Fib...BOTH!!!

As for those who don't know..here's the lyrics...

Mile End by Pulp

We didn't have no where to live
We didn't have no where to go
'Til someone said:
"I know this place off Burditt Road"
It was on the fifteenth floor
It had a board across the door
It took an hour
To pry it off and get inside
It smelt as if someone had died
The living-room was full of flies
The kitchen sink was blocked
The bathroom sink not there at all
Ooh, it's a mess alright,
Yes it's Mile End!

And now we're living in the sky!
I'd never thought I'd live so high,
Just like Heaven (if it didn't look like Hell!)
The lift is always full of piss,
The fifth floor landing smells of fish
(Not just on Friday, every single other day)
Below the kids come out tonight,
They kick a ball and have a fight
And maybe shoot somebody if they lose at pool
Ooh, it's a mess alright,
Yes it's Mile End!

Nobody wants to be your friend
'Cause you're not from round here,
As if that was something to be proud about!
The pearly king of the Isle of Dogs
Feels up children in the bogs
Down by the playing fields
Someone sets a car on fire
I guess you have to go right down
Before you understand just how,
How low, how low a human being can go!
Ooh, it's a mess alright,
Yes it's Mile End!


Now if that ain't a folk song, what is?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 01:44 PM

Kat, Make sure you copywrite your idea, so other sites won't beat us to the punch.

wdyat12


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Bert
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 02:10 PM

Aw Matt, that song reminds me of home, just a few miles down the road in Canning Town.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: tiggerdooley
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 02:37 PM

Back to Northern Exposure, which 'catter would play the bear in the cave? I don't remember his name (something like Old Willy.)Don't think he actually existed, but I think it was Holling who had a score to settle with him.
Now which one of you would like to play a non-existent ferocious bear who turns out to be a deer skeleton (or something like that)?.

I know I'M keen!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Morticia
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 02:40 PM

Can I be Shelly? I always thought she was a lot smarter than she made out (oh, that might disqualify me,right?) or a female Joel as a foreigner trying to figure out this crazy place ( nope, been around too long for that)....okay, how about that receptionist of Joel's, the one that hardly ever said anything ( guess that's out too).Damn, I'll have to make up a part of my own I guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 02:51 PM

Sure, Mortee, this here is GLOBAL! Hell, we've got Northern, Southern, Down Under, Sideways and Backwards Exposure, especially if Cleigh is around showing his bum to everyone.

I've just told Barry, in his thread, that he can have the part of the handsome star in hospital who comes through just in time to sweep all of the women off their feet thanks to spare parts from the NYCFTTS.

Wdyat12...I think it may too late. Who knows what minions of Hollywood lurk about these threads stealing all of our good ideas?**Wah-hah-hah-ha!**


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: tiggerdooley
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 02:53 PM

Can I be Ed? He was so chilled and out of it, but wiser than all of us put together. He knew that flinging a cow from a catapult had already been done by Monty Python, so Maggie's burnt piano got flung instead.
Who would be a good candidate for Ed?
Would Joe O be DJ Chris?
I dunno, 'cos I've only been a 'Catter for about three weeks!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: JenEllen
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:01 PM

ROTFLMAO kat....I think this place is enough of a petting zoo already!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:02 PM

I think PeterT would be a good one for Chris 'cause he can put a spin on anything and make it metaphysical, but then LeeJ (Lonesome EJ) does a great job of spinning existential, too, along with Spaw, BillD, and Sourdough! Whew! So many philosphy degrees! We will have to have round-the-clock DJ's!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: tiggerdooley
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:12 PM

Don't talk to me about philosophy degrees, kat! A philosophy degree is the reason I'm working as a gopher in the library of the university where I did the crummy degree in the first place. Well, it was either that or McDonalds!!!
For sale: one lightly used answer to why we are all here, if we are all here, and who put us here in the first place. All offers considered...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:16 PM

LMAO, td...just ask Spaw (Catspaw)..he's the one that will tell you that degree will get you nothing but higher priced coffee at McDonald's!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Chester
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:17 PM

Wall, eye'm jes knew round hyar m'selph. Eye wuz wunderin' ef eye kud bee the town ne'er dew well. Eye'm gud at that. Doan't dew much sept fiddle.
Chester


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: tiggerdooley
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:20 PM

Come on, Spaw, spill (The beans, NOT the coffee...)!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:33 PM

Haha! Welcome to Tiggerdooley and Chester...lots of ne'er dew welz around here, you're gonna fit right in!

(I think Spaw is away for the afternoon, but I am sure he will jump in here first chance to answer the challange, td!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:34 PM

I'm at a disadvantage here- I live in Alaska and I may be the only one of us who has not seen either Cicely, Alaska nor Northern Exposure. (And maybe that's the whole point! This is Alaska, after all.)

But this 'town' sounds like fun- count me in. I live up on the mountainside and come in only rarely. Except when there's music happenin'. Then I come down every day and forget to go back home.

Eb


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Jim Krause
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:47 PM

Chester, are you by any chance related to Petroleum V. Nasby? Just a hunch, but your syntax and spelling are a lot like his.
Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Chester
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:55 PM

Jim, Yup, how'd ewe guess? Eye dint think id bee obveeus. He's my gate uncel on my muther's side, twicet remooved. We had ter remoove him twicet frum the fambly, but we doan't tawk about that.
Chester


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Noreen
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:57 PM

Mortee, you can tend the frozen-Margarita machine....


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: MMario
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 04:07 PM

I figgered Chester was related to Cletus - but I bet Cletus is related to Petroleum V. Nasby as well....


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Chester
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 04:37 PM

MMario, I dunno who thishyar Cletus feller iz, butt he sownds like a nice feller. Kin hee pick a banjer? Er duz hee jest pick his knows?
Chester


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: MMario
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 04:42 PM

Chester - you don't want to know. But if you must - check out the links provided by Spaw above - and (shudder) read the whole gruesome history...it's in there somewhere...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Chester
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 04:56 PM

MMario, mebbe eye'd better knot.
Chester


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Spud Murphy
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 05:12 PM

Where's the bar? Did somebody say bar? Lemme shoot the bar! Is tiggerdooley the bar? Can i jus shoot tiggerdooley instead? Is thatyou, John Boy? Where's Ebbie? I think she went up on the mountain with John Boy. Or was it tiggerdooley?

HEY!!! WHERE'D EVERBUDDY GO?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Chester
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 05:13 PM

Hey Spud, jes put that 'ar blunderbush down. Onliest bar hyarbouts is over ta Mudcatville. C'mon, buddy. Let's us go have a beer.
Chester


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Cafe - the sitcom?
From: Spud Murphy
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 05:16 PM

I wish i didn't shake so much.

Potato Brains


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