Where is God?

Subject: RE: Where is God?
From: SharonA
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 03:04 PM

GUEST (Dan): I think man just growed.

Subject: RE: Where is God?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 03:14 PM

Yeah, Sharon, there's no more accurate answer than that. Eloquence, for sure, but no more accuracy.

Dan

Subject: RE: Where is God?
From: SharonA
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 03:49 PM

I take it you know the literary (if you can call it that) reference of "growed", Dan, yes?

Subject: RE: Where is God?
From: GUEST, Dan
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 03:58 PM

Nope.

(Unless it was Sardus in "And the Ass Saw the Angel.") (And you guys shouldn't be funnin yourselves on my lack of education.)

And I can't get it out of my head that my question/desire of what it's like to sense the unmanifest is perfectly analogous, as Carol might put it, to a deep sea invertebrate wanting to feel wet.

Subject: RE: Where is God?
From: Amos
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 04:43 PM

There is no reason you cannot, Dan. There are various schools of meditation and spiritual therapeutics of one or another sort which lead you in that direction, but with such things your mileage as always may vary.

There is no inherent reason why having a body should preclude ALSO having cosmic-scale spiritual experiences, but it seems to frequently do so, anyway. My belief is that for many people having a body involves adopting a lot of automaticities and abandoning a lot of creative responsibilities, and that's a slippery slope to walk back up; but there is no path other than walking back up in regardless of what techniques you use. The common denominators of all such paths that seem workable are re-assuming responsibility aned creative power over the apparencies of being that one has taken on as "the way it is", rather than letting them continue as external-determinants. One interesting recent book in this direction is called The Toltec Way although I have no reason to assume it is actually a Toltec legacy; but it is a nice name for the book, which discusses many aspects of this philosophical/spiritual approach.

'Course this could open the way for all kinds of supercilious corrective noises, but I guess I'll take the risk, and if worse comes to worse I will convert to petaphysics. That's a nice safe religion because the critics and pedants tend to stay out of range. :>)

A

Subject: RE: Where is God?
From: Amos
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 04:47 PM

Book Two of How High The Left (joke, sorry) can be found over here for faster loading. Please post there instead of to this thread which is too long already.

A

Subject: RE: Where is God?
From: SharonA
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 04:49 PM

No, no, Dan, I wasn't funnin'! It simply occurred to me after I posted that you might not know that I was borrowing a phrase from "Uncle Tom's Cabin" by Harriet Beecher Stowe.

Here's the reference, a bit of the initial interview between Topsy, the young slave girl, and the mistress to whom she's just been delivered:

  "Have you ever heard anything about God, Topsy?"

  The child looked bewildered, but grinned as usual.

  "Do you know who made you?"

  "Nobody, as I knows on," said the child, with a short laugh.

  The idea appeared to amuse her considerably; for her eyes twinkled, and she added,

  "I spect I grow'd. Don't think nobody never made me."


...so there you have it. This is also the origin of the phrase "growed like Topsy." Again, please rest assured that I was not making fun of you, Dan.

Sharon

Subject: RE: Where is God?
From: SharonA
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 04:52 PM

Oops! Sorry, Amos, I missed seeing your post with the link to Part 2 of this thread.

Subject: RE: Where is God?
From: kendall
Date: 29 Nov 01 - 08:21 PM

Well, I must say I was expecting a broadside. Should have known that such an intelligent group would agree with me! LOL Amos, I thought a "pitard" was a dagger?

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