BS: De-Christianizing Christmas

Subject: RE: BS: De-Christianizing Christmas
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 12:10 PM

'sfar as I know, Unitarians consider Christ a profit, but not the son of God. Just as the Jehovah's Witnesses do. That makes neither religion Christian. The Muslims also consider Christ a Prophet... not sure about the Mormons.. we have Morman neighbors, so maybe I'll ask them. I know that they won't be threatened.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: De-Christianizing Christmas
From: CapriUni
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 12:37 PM

(From Katlaughing, re: the Quintus Symmachus quote):

"That is well and good for those who believe in some sort of diety, Capri. Meaning no disrespect, just an observation. "

Not necessarily, Kat. Couldn't science be considered one of the "practical systems we adopt in our search for the truth."? Indeed, according to a scientist, it's the most practical of practical systems.

But you're right... I used "Divinity" as the all-inclusive term, when I should have used "Ultimate Reality", which could just as easily apply to the laws of physics (quantum or Newtonian, take your pick), or the natural law of human civilization and reason as to a supernatural being.

Subject: RE: BS: De-Christianizing Christmas
From: CapriUni
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 12:41 PM

Oops! I didn't turn off the italics like I meant to, after "science"... I also just realized that I called Quintus a "dud" when I meant to call him a "dude"...

This feels like an episode of the Electric Company! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: De-Christianizing Christmas
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 02:06 PM

Hee hee - that's PROPHET, I think, Jerry Rasmussen! And SharonA, that is what is happening with the nephew, who FEELS excluded no matter what we do to include him. And CapriUni, if it's REALITY, whether Ultimate or not, it DOES NOT apply to the supernatural. By definition.

Subject: RE: BS: De-Christianizing Christmas
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 02:13 PM

Now continued in new thread.

Subject: RE: BS: De-Christianizing Christmas
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 02:25 PM

Link to part 2: MORE ON de-Xing Xmas

Subject: RE: BS: De-Christianizing Christmas
From: John J
Date: 15 Jan 02 - 02:08 PM

Refresh....just to keep it alive.

Subject: RE: BS: De-Christianizing Christmas
From: GUEST,Cathy Christian
Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:09 PM

I got tired of reading about half way down the thread so I don't suppose anyone will read this.

Giving presents for Christmas is a relatively new idea. Before that, gifts were given at New Year's and Christmas was spent in church at mass giving thanks for the coming of The Christ - or at Christ Mass. I study Elizabethan England and there are many stories about Elizabeth I making presents for her family for New Years (mostly translations of religious text handwritten).

Christmas is a religious holiday celebrating the birth of The Christ. Nothing more or less. Humans have made it into this mass marketing giant. And for that we will pay.

Subject: RE: BS: De-Christianizing Christmas
From: SharonA
Date: 15 Jan 02 - 04:21 PM

John & Cathy: When a thread has more than 100 posts in it, some folks can't bring it up on their computers. That's why yo'll see most long threads divided into parts ("continued on part 2, part 3, etc."). Those that aren't divided up should be!

So please, don't post any additional comments here. Instead, please post to the thread called "MORE ON de-Xing Xmas - continued". Thanks!

Here's the link to that thread, once again: MORE ON de-Xing Xmas - continued