BS: Who are the terrorists? Part 113

Subject: RE: BS: Who are the terrorists? Part 113
From: GUEST,native
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 12:45 PM

I just heard a rumor that U.S. troops were with the Esrailis when then went into Jenin,and blocked theU.N. from going in. I would like info. on this

Subject: A limerick
From: GUEST,Lawrence Lauriate
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 02:24 PM

There was a Mudcat woman named CarolC

To her Israel was a heresy

She posted her links

And now we all thinks

That CarolC and Yassir married will be

Subject: RE: BS: Who are the terrorists? Part 113
From: CarolC
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 02:33 PM

Good night Lawrence.

Subject: RE: BS: Who are the terrorists? Part 113
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 02:45 PM

Good one Lawrence. LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Who are the terrorists? Part 113
From: CarolC
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 03:16 PM

It's pretty obvious to me that I don't stand a chance matching wits with two such towering intellects as yourself, GUEST, and our friend Lawrence here. I concede the playing field to you.

Subject: RE: BS: Who are the terrorists? Part 113
From: Deda
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 05:37 PM

Carol, I think that you and I come at this subject from extremely different positions, from nearly opposite corners many times, but I do appreciate being able to read your posts and post back, and I don't think we've ever picked at each other personally. Thanks for that. I think that is very valuable, one of the things that I treasure about the general discussion threads Mudcat threads. Because I have an Israeli daughter and grandson and many former in-laws living there, I get the Israeli perspective, and I understand it. It seems crystal clear to me that Israel is defending itself and its right to exist, and we can discuss that, and the history that got us where we are, and whose misbehavoiors or misconceptions are worse. But it is not about you, nor me, nor any of the posters. It behooves us all to remember that, imho.

(Robomatic - I really like the fairness parable!)

Subject: RE: BS: Who are the terrorists? Part 113
From: CarolC
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 05:39 PM

Thanks Deda.

Subject: RE: BS: Who are the terrorists? Part 113
From: CarolC
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 05:56 PM

On the fairness parable, I would just like to say that that one cuts both ways. An untruth is an untruth whether it is uttered by Arabs or by Israelis. Fairness means that we all live by the same standards. We can't hold others to one standard and ourselves to an entirelly different standard.

Subject: RE: BS: Who are the terrorists? Part 113
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 06:10 PM

Like most parables, the fairness one can be applied in different ways. The point it's making is that changing the numbers in a lie doesn't stop it being a lie.

There are a lot of numbers thrown about in the stories about how things got to the state they are now in the Holy Land - numbers like the estimated number of people living in Palestine back in the 1920s, and the number of refugees who fled their homes in 1948, and the numbers who left "voluntarily", and the numbers of civilians killed on both sides over the last few years.

The numbers argued up and down and round and round. But in the last resort, they aren't important.

Subject: RE: BS: Who are the terrorists? Part 113
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 08:24 PM

check out this site: http://www.hcef.org/news/news/index.cfm/dsp/newsview/itemid/738.htm

This is a story about how the new head of the Presbyterian Church in USA is a Palestinian...but there is a place to register for emails. It has more of a religious than a political focus, but of course politics is there. But it is from the Christian perspective and you do get a fairly good idea of what is going on in the Christian community there..which is highly diverse...including Greek Orthodox, evangelical Christians, Lutherans etc. mg