Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,babeegurl
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 02:21 AM

Look line dancing isnt that great but seriously, country is cool. I came onto the site to find info on line dancing for an assiment, but all i found was people that didnt like it, which is sad. Country music rocs and basically everything counrty. im counrty bumkin you should try it sum time!

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: v
Date: 19 Apr 04 - 03:21 AM

my daughter's father is a musician, and got caught up in 'c & w ' for a few years... let me tell you, where i was in Oregon and Washington, the lady line dancers were   in furs and sequined gowns, with masses of makeup and tons of jewelry, like call girls. and the guys all wore stetsons and expensive leather cowboy boots and brand new jeans.and drove expensive cars and were extremely pompous.
and the band would play the latest "achey-breaky heart" stuff, but as closet hippies, would make fun of them later in the secrecy of their insobrieties. especially the part where everybody simultaneously reaches behind their butt and waves their hand back and forth, like everybody just
passed gas...LOL
   me - i think, if my mom wanted to do it, it would be a good thing. But as far as going down in the annals of music and dancing culture, i hope it eventually goes the way of scientology and disco.
   btw - some people are even still scientologists and disco dancers, but it says a lot about them when done publically.
to each them-all's own,
v
ps (aka "bubba")

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 12:01 AM

I've left this for a while, but now [having the full facts to hand] thought it was time to reply!

Quoute [Ivor biginng] "Does he sing play or dance?"
Yes, I sing,play and dance, [as well you know!]


Quoute=[same prick] "uncultered, half eductated, ill informed"

I am willing to bet real money that I am more educated, and cultured than O , Ivor Bigging!
I am university educated, and hold various proffesional qualifications, including Diploma in Food Science and Nutrition.

Whats the leverl of your qaulifications? an o level in sweeping up?

"From what I've seen and heard etc etc "
your'e obviously talking shit,
I reckon I make a fair contribution to the hull folk scene, namely by organising the Hull Folk Club, promoting local folk bands [including Punch The Horse etc] here and on other websites, and generally promoting the folk scene in and around Hull.

It may also interest you to note, that I am eligible to join Mensa [though I choose not too].


Ivor biggining-you are an idiot, you will never amount to anything, you will spend the rest of your sad life sweeping floors, accept it, that's all your'e good for.

john

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,Hank Drygulch
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 12:16 AM

John from Hull, yew are a dirty lowdown scallywag whut ain't worth cow shit fer startin' this here insultin' thread against line dancin'! If'n I was in yer town I would find out where you hangs yer hat and git one of two things:

1. an apology
2. the pleasure of bustin' yer face

I'm Hank Drygulch and I don't cotton to folks makin' fun of other folks ways of havin' fun. I bet yew cain't line dance to save yer wu'thless skin. Yer the one who's a idiot and if you was in Texas we would tar and feather yew and run yew out of town on a rail, if'n we could find one that was old, rusty, and not fitten to use no more fer nothin' else!

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 12:24 AM

Hank-In my time here, Ive posted my name, address, date of birth, phone number, mothers name and place of work.

if you want to try and "bust my face" come and have a go,, i'm not scared, you don't ned to make an appointment, just turn up, i'm not scared of you or anyone else.

only thing i'm scared of is snakes and dentists.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 09:52 AM

Yes. They never smile. I thought people did it for fun. what an odd way of showing it.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 07:08 PM

the first time I heard Copperhead Road by Steve Earle was on a line dance album somebody lent me.

that is a fabulous track. they obviously dance to some good songs.

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: SINSULL
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 07:53 PM

jOhn,
When I visit England I will teach you the Bunny Hop, the Chicken Dance and the Macarena - none of this C&W line dance rubbish for us.
SINS

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,Azizi
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 07:57 PM

FYI:
Line dancing is also an African Diaspora dance form. For example, the Calenda was a line dance that was performed among Africans in the Caribbean and in the United States {such as New Orlean's Congo Square}. One 18th century description of this dance in the Caribbean is as follows:

"The dancers are arranged in two lines, facing each other, the men on one side and the women on the other. Those who are tired of dancing form a circle with the spectators around the dancers and the drums. The ablest persons sings a song which he composes on the spot on any subject he considers appropriate. The refrain of this song is sung by everyone and is accompanied by great handclapping. As for the dancers, they hold their arms a little like someone playing castagnettes. They jump, make swift turns, approach each other to a distance of two or three feet then draw back with the beat of the drum until the sound of the drums bring them together again to strike their thighs together, that is the men's against the women's...At the proper time they withdraw with a pirouette, only to begin again with the same movement..." {Labat quoted in Lynne Fauley Emery's Black Dance from 1619 to Today, 2nd, revised edition, Princeton Books,1972, pp 21-22)

Someone asked in this thread if Ballin The Jack was a line dance. Emery describes this early 20th African American dance as a "serpentine , circular, shuffling dance" {p. 214}. I believe that "serpentine" means processional, undulating like a snake, similar to the Conga {which began as a religious processional dance}. At any rate, Ballin the Jack became a hip shakin couple's dance. So, I wouldn't consider Ballin the Jack as an example of Black line dancing. I'm too young {ahem!!} to remember Truckin', The Sroll, and The Hickhike, but I believe they were mostly vertical line dances {??}not horizontal line dances.

Among contemporary Black line dancing there are the Perculator, the Cleveland Shuffle, and one called Shake What Ya Mama Gave You. Line dancing isn't big in my adopted city of Pittsburgh, but it's starting to pop up here from the Midwest and elsewhere. Generally, the people in Pittsburgh who attend line dance classes are middle age and female, but that doesn't mean that we are the only one's doing it... While the steps are synchronized, dancers add their own flava to the mix.

If you'd like to get a sense of line dancing African American style, rent or purchase the movie Best Man. That movie ends with the entire wedding party and guests of all ages doing a line dance called the Electric Slide.

To paraphrase what someone said earlier- there's line dancing and there's LINE DANCING!

By the way, if you check out teh history of Morris Dancing, it started out as a Black thing too {Morris=Moorish=African}.

:o))

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: M'Grath of Altcar
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 07:14 AM

Instructions for a line dance (some call it a ceremony)

"American Trilogy" to the tune by Elvis tune with the same name.

Stand in a circle...

till the songs nearly finished.

Remove Stetson & bow.

End

People really do this.

Please somebody explain what's going on there.

And isn't that a minstrel tune?

MofA

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: GUEST,Betsy
Date: 01 Sep 04 - 10:34 AM

Firking shyte - OK for Gerry Hatricks who need a bit of exercise.
Frighteningly military / brainwashed type of Shyte

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Nov 04 - 09:09 PM

Quote="from what I've seen and heard, his contributions to the folk scene are to get drunk on a regular basis"

Bullshit!

So who runs Hull Folk Club then?
So who plugs sessions, gigs and bands in this area?


Your'e an arsehole, you've got a week to apologise for your comments, after that I won't be responsible for my actions.
your'e a complete load of shit, and very soon, you'll wish you'd never heard of me.


[Don't fuck with me, I've dealt with more important people than you.]

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: rich-joy
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 04:36 AM

re Snuffy's and Azizi's posts :
I thought I remembered seeing a video clip of a Line Dance from the 50s/60s called "The Madison", so I went net-searching :

Jitterbug Stroll : The Jitterbug Stroll is a line dance based on early jazz steps tracing back to the swing era. It was created specifically for Lindy Hoppers and was choreographed by the extraordinary dancer Ryan Francois who is credited with the choreography in "Swing Kids", and "Malcolm X". It is danced to a Blues Format (6 bars per phrase). Woodchoppers Ball was the tune chosen by Ryan himself for this dance.

Madison Time : The Madison is an amusing line dance that originated in the late 1950's. According to Lance Benishek (dance historian), "The Madison probably started in Chicago, although it may have been Detroit or Cleveland. The Baltimore Colts learned it in Cleveland and brought it to Baltimore in 1959". It is danced to the Ray Bryant tune, The Madison Time, with calls for the particular dance sequences provided by Eddie Morrison. Eddie was a Baltimore disc jockey who started calling the steps live on the air. Based on a six count chorus step, The Madison contains several dance sequences which make playful references to the big stars of that time period. The Dance resurfaced in 1988 in the John waters film "Hairspray". According to Ryan Francois, there is also a Madison partner dance that is still danced today in England.

The Shim Sham : is a line dance based on early jazz/tap dance steps. Lindy Hoppers have taken this original Tap Routine and made it there own. The dance is divided into 10 musical phrases with specific steps such as; the Shim Sham, the Cross Over, the Tacky Annie, and the Half-Break. These steps are repeated and then followed by Boogie Backs, Boogie Forwards, and Shorty George steps, after which you grab the nearest person and dance until the song is finished. The version we teach is heavily influenced by Frankie Manning.

The Trunky Doo : is another line dance which dates back to the early Thirties, however this one was created by the Lindy Hoppers themselves. It has a more challenging and complex set of patterns. The version we teach has been more recently rearranged and tends to be the popular version throughout the swing circuit.

found at : www.savoycentral.org/classoverview.html


Cheers! R-J

Subject: RE: Is 'Line Dancing' rubbish?
From: Tam the Bam (Nutter)
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:56 AM

If you have nothing to say about line dancing, then do saying anything at all Ivor.