BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Tunesmith
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 03:06 AM

Well, It's now 2011 and not 1965!
Sunjay can play blues and American orientated music 24 hours a day, but the British folk scene doesn't need that.
For one reason, there are thousands of Americans doing that already.
Over 40 years ago Bert, John etc were striving for a more British sound to their playing.
Talking of 40 years ago, if Sunjay can produce anything like what Dave Evans(a Bert Jansch disciple) was exploring back then, I'd be very excited - and very happy.

Dave Evans! Wow!

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: tweetiepie
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 03:57 AM

Having seen and heard Lucy over the last few years I think she is amazing. She really deserves an award. She is down to earth and very likeable. Go Lucy Go! I mean that in a positive way. Will have a listen to Sanjay Al and enthuse on. Where can I hear Nikky sing? She can play a mean guitar too x

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 06:40 AM

I think its very high handed of you to decide that the British folk scene doesn't need Sanjay.

However it surprises me not a jot. Bloody typical of the middle classes and their cruddy folk revival.

Yweets you can hear Nicky every Wednesday at teh Plymouth Hoy on the quay in the old town in Bournemouth. Lovely lady. And yes Lucy is lovely as is her family.

The difference is because of her choice of material, she was streeetwise enough to do the stuff that was acceptable.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,Howard Jones
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 07:58 AM

Al, you seem to have a grudge against the folk revival, which I can only guess might be because the stuff you perform (very well, too, I've been on your website) isn't "acceptable" there. However the question of acceptability applies to any music - if you want to appear at a jazz club, then play jazz; if you want to appear on Radio 3 then play classical; if you want to play in folk clubs, then play folk music. It doesn't matter how good the music is, if it doesn't suit the venue and the audience then you won't get invited.

I recognise that for the kind of stuff you do, or that Sunjay does, there isn't really a convenient slot for it to fit into, and that for want of anything more suitable, a folk club might be the most likely environment. And, despite your grumblings, there are a great many folk clubs with a sufficiently broad attitude to accept that music. However for those that don't, and who feel that kind of music isn't for them, that's their prerogative. But don't assume that those people aren't open to other forms of music too. It's just a question of playing what's appropriate to the audience - what's "acceptable".

To bring this back on topic, the BBC Awards seem to take a fairly broad view of what is "folk", which some will agree with and others won't.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Tunesmith
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 08:15 AM

To put my position straight.
I love the blues! I'm a fully paid up member of the Son House Appreciation Society!
However, blues must be an adjunct to the main thrust of what needs to be happening in folk clubs if the English folk revival is not to disappear and leave behind clubs that are totally inhabited by people performing old pop songs and confessional singer-songwriters material.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,Ken
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 08:21 AM

The last time I looked, people other than the native British (whatever they are) had folk music as well, and these things are simply called the Folk Awards. So the scandal is not that somebody playing American music has been nominated, but that all the other traditional musics you can hear played by people living within the BBC's regions aren't. They also aren't called "the folk club awards", so they're not limited to whatever it is that people play in those specialist gatherings. Whether or not people like singer/songwriters should be included or whether you apply the old Ewan MacColl rule that people should only be allowed to perform music from their own tradition are both other arguments for different sets of semantics and nitpicking. However, surely - at a minimum - anybody living and playing a traditional music within the UK to a high standard and decent public profile should be eligible?

So the question shouldn't be "why is Sunjay Brayne included", it's "why aren't for example Juldeh Camara, Seckou Keita. The Krar Collective, Mor Karbasi etc included?" They are all first class traditional folk musicians or singers living, recording and performing in the UK, and they are always excluded.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 08:21 AM

Well, I'm with Al on this one. What Sunjay is doing is not entirely my cup of tea and I think things will get much more interesting if and when he starts writing his own songs. Meanwhile he's a fantastic guitar player who clearly has an abiding and genuine love of American folk and roots music - as did many of the early people on the UK folk scene... I'm really please he's been nominated. Maybe next year we might see some of the alt.folk types up there too. People like Foxpockets, for instance.

As to the comparisons with Dave Evans - I love Dave's stuff, but you have to remember Sunjay is only 18. I suspect when "The Worlds in Between Came" out Dave had a few years on him!

I love traditional English music in the right hands, but I can't see why some people are so keen to keep Sunjay's sort of music out of folk clubs. Having said that, I hope he is getting plenty of gigs elsewhere too - you know, the sorts of places where other actual young people go to listen to music... ;-)

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 08:28 AM

Excellent points from Ken. 100% in agreement.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 08:41 AM

Quote from Howard Jones "It doesn't matter how good the music is, if it doesn't suit the venue and the audience then you won't get invited."

100% correct. It's a question of artists doing their homework and finding out the clubs that best suit their style of music.

I think Folk Clubs as the older generation know them, will die as not many young people want to go to them. Do your kids want to be seen out with you, when they are teenagers? Us old folkies should stop trying to force younger people into and old folk's folk club's.
Their is a massive increase in younger people loving folk as seen at festivals. They also carry that on in their own places, where they can be themselves. Universities have a flourishing folk scene. Leave them to it. They are the future. They will carry the folk scene through.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Tunesmith
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 08:43 AM

Are these people i.e. "Juldeh Camara, Seckou Keita. The Krar Collective, Mor Karbasi" playing British folk music?
For example, there's a fair sized Polish population in the UK at the the moment but I'd wouldn't be happy if Polish folk singers were included in the BBC Folk Awards.
Boundaries are needed otherwise we'll be including every form of music in the Folk Awards.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 08:58 AM

Why on earth should any UK based folk performer with roots abroad be excluded? Tunesmith? A Polish folk singer, to use your example, is still a folk singer...

Have a listen to this: Roshi - Jaane Maryam

The Rif Mountain website says this about her: "Born in Wales to Iranian parents, Roshi Nasehi is a singer/songwriter who presents her own evocative original material alongside sometimes quite radical interpretations of the Iranian songs she was brought up listening to... When she interprets Iranian song it is in a personal style bringing a contemporary edge and an authentic understanding of context and language."

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Tunesmith
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 09:06 AM

It all depends on how far the original British folk music is diluted!
For example, lots of jazz musicians improvise on folksongs but their efforts - as far as I'm concerned - have nothing to do with the British folk tradition.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 09:08 AM

Some of these Polish folk singers as you put it Tunesmith are probably descendants of Polish war veterans who fought alongside us Brits in the second world war and were based in our country. Quite a number of these war veterans remained in this country and have brought up families here. They are as entitled as much as you or me to be classed as folk singers if that's what they do.
A couple of friends of mine wrote a song about Polish war veterans who were based at Faldingworth RAF and I had the great honour of going to see one of the polish veterans to get his approval of the song. Him and his wife still live near Lincoln and are such lovely people.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,matt milton
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 09:09 AM

"Maybe next year we might see some of the alt.folk types up there too. People like Foxpockets, for instance"

Maybe in 2050. In a parallel universe.
These are the Radio 2 folk awards. (The old-school Radio 2, not the Radcliffe & Maconie wing.)

I've yet to hear a better album this year than Mary Hampton's "Folly", but it'd never get nominated for the R2 awards, let alone win.

Has Alasdair Roberts ever received a nomination, as a matter of interest?

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Tunesmith
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 09:18 AM

My doctor is the son of a Polish immigrant, and he has sung Polish songs at folk clubs; however, I wouldn't be happy with someone whose repertoire is totally in a foreign language being nominated in the British Folk Music Awards.
Anyway, before we start including any Asian/African music in awards, we should think of allowing Breton musicians to be included as their music is a close relative of our traditional music.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 09:45 AM

Fair point, Matt. For a moment there I thought it was the Six Music Folk Awards...

I don't think he has. no. But he had just compiled this: Whaur the Pig Gaed On the Spree

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 09:51 AM

Think yourselves lucky that anyone from the younger generation even associates themselves with something normally preformed by bleating sheep!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 10:09 AM

My doctor is the son of a Polish immigrant, and he has sung Polish songs at folk clubs; however, I wouldn't be happy with someone whose repertoire is totally in a foreign language being nominated in the British Folk Music Awards.

what about the welsh?

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,Ken
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 10:13 AM

It all depends on how far the original British folk music is diluted!

Where does it say that they are the British Folk Awards, or Awards For British Folk Music, or any such variant? The only reasonable extrapolation that can be made for Folk Awards given by the BBC is that they are awards for all folk music being made within the cachment area of the BBC. If that's their remit, they singularly fail by excluding most of the folk music that can be found in the UK outside the walls of so-called folk clubs.

Are these people i.e. "Juldeh Camara, Seckou Keita. The Krar Collective, Mor Karbasi" playing British folk music?

They are people who live in Britain playing mostly traditional folk music.

I would be interested to see how the BBC define or give guidance on eligible music to their mythical jury of 80/120/150 or whatever the number is. Would any of those people care to break cover and quote the rules, if there are any?

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Will Fly
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 10:16 AM

I wrote this earlier on in the thread:

what the awards are representative of, I have no idea

Seems like it's still an open question...

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Tunesmith
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 10:26 AM

Well, as I said before, the BBC Folk Awards - judging from the nominations - are - almost totally - devoted to artists who play British folk music!
Not Indian, or Australian aboriginal...
And, BTW Guest, surely Welsh is a type of British language.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 11:12 AM

But we live in a wonderful multi multi multi multi cultural country now, in which an ever increasing proportion of folks come from, or their parents or their grandparents come from somewhere else - so you are going to get a bit of influence in entrants which upsets the same people who accuse of racism and like to make a fuss - now there's a thing!!!

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 11:23 AM

Getting too weird!

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 02:38 PM

I'm so pleased though that there is no such thing as the folk police and its all a figment of the imagination of paranoid losers.

Now the folk gestapo.....

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Howard Jones
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 02:47 PM

I've been reading Emma Hartley's blog with interest.

In response to the conspiracy theorists' accusations of a stitch-up, SmoothOps spokeswoman Kellie While replied that it's all monitored and signed-off by the BBC. She seems to fail to realise that for many on the folk scene that is not reassuring - the BBC's neglect of folk music, and its closing of more and more folk programmes, is a scandal. Mike Harding's show clearly has a remit of not letting those ghastly folkies drive away the audience, rather than providing something for real folk enthusiasts.

Personally, I don't buy into the conspiracy theory. I think the same acts keep on getting nominated because they're consistently good. Whether the "experts" really have as wide a view of the folk scene, and whether all the deserving performers are on their radar, is another matter, but the fact that quite recent acts such as Pilgrims' Way have got themselves nominated suggest to me that the experts aren't quite as blinkered as some would make out.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 02:50 PM

I think the same acts keep on getting nominated because they're consistently good.


Thankyou - at last something sensible!

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,raymond greenoaken
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 03:05 PM

>I would be interested to see how the BBC define or give guidance on eligible music to their mythical jury of 80/120/150 or whatever the number is. Would any of those people care to break cover and quote the rules, if there are any?<

Right, I'm going out, Fanshawe. Give me some covering fire...

There are rules, but they are largely procedural. Smooth Ops supplies no guidelines as to who does or does not qualify. Jurists, I'd guess, make commonsense assumptions, and if enough of them voted for The Krar Collective or even Alistair Roberts, they'd be up there. That there are no artists in the final line-up from Spleen's record label is in spite of my most strenuous efforts. Biddable, moi? No, I just know what I like.

And now, back in the foxhole...

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,Ken
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 03:18 PM

Oh well, four mentions of the Krar Collective on a Mudcat thread is a bit of a result even if only by way of fallout. And yes, you're right, Mr Spleen was robbed, if I'd have been voting then Rapunzel & sedayne would have been in there. I think the simple answer is that the majority of the jury don't get out enough, maybe because they are an intentionally safe BBC selection. It is run by Radio 2 after all, the home of The Organist Entertains ;-)

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Banjiman
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 04:27 PM

It's interesting......even those acts that people are using as examples of newbies and outsiders getting into the show are mainly actually signed to pretty big record labels or agents. Even the Will Pounds and Lucy wards of this world (and don't get me wrong I really like both of them, we had Will at our place yesterday) are very well connected..... as are Pilgrim's Way.

I'm really pleased to see acts like these being nominated, I'm just making the point that they already have significant "insider" (just who does get to vote?) contacts.

Incidentally, we had Rapunzel & Sedayne here yesterday as well.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 05:31 PM

Smooth Ops supplies no guidelines as to who does or does not qualify.

Raymond - a couple of years ago, on a BBC message board, somebody inadvertently posted SO's guidelines on how to vote. While they certainly didn't make any stipulations as to who or what people should vote for - style, material, record label, nationality or whatever - they did say on what grounds people should vote: specifically, for the folk act/individual/album/etc that had had the most impact, not necessarily the best or their favourite. This obviously creates a bias towards honouring acts that are already successful - or, to put it another way, acts that would already be familiar to R2 listeners. Are those guidelines still in use? If not, what do they ask you to vote for? Or is it more a matter of a tap on the shoulder in a dark corner of C# House... psst, Raymond... it's that time again, know what I mean... you know what to do...

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Nov 11 - 09:08 PM

In retrospect Pip, I'm abit cheesed off with what you said. I would never presume to be as prescrpitive as Tunesmith has been. Censoring a young man's first efforts and saying that it has NO place in English folk clubs.

I speak as an artist who has worked hard at MY vision of folk music for over forty years - no magic formulae for me, weird guitar tunings and odd affectations - just working with the sounds and voices that I found coming out of my mouth. No subsidised World Council tours, highly unpopular TV programmes, subsidised folk festivals, arts council grants - just my vision. An English artist whose point of reference has been English folk clubs.

And this clutz has the effrontery to tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about. And its me who's got the attitude problem.

I would never ever dream of telling you that you had no place in folk music. I've often bloody felt it as some cultural autistic grabs another piece of the cake - but I wouldn't dream of saying it.

Just assure me of one thing Tunesmith. You are not a relation or close friend of one of the other contestants trying to rally the troops to bugger up the opposition out of sheer malice.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,Gemma Kidney
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 03:12 AM

Hi,
Please read my investigative folk blog on the subject - Are Folk Awards Discriminatory?

On the whole I think that they probably are. But maybe they're not.

Gemma

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Tunesmith
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 03:20 AM

First, I didn't say blues hasn't got a place in UK folk clubs.
What I did say is that - from Youtube evidence - Sunjay appeared to be specialising in the blues, and that I didn't see why an artist performing almost totally American music should be considered for a British Folk Music award.
A poster pointed out that Martin Simpson plays a lot of American music.
True, but he also plays a lot of British/Celtic music.
If Martin specialised in purely American music, then I wouldn't be happy with him winning British Folk Music awards.
Secondly, I haven't got any connection whatsoever with any of the other artists in that category.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,raymond greenoaken
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 04:29 AM

>Raymond - a couple of years ago, on a BBC message board, somebody inadvertently posted SO's guidelines on how to vote. While they certainly didn't make any stipulations as to who or what people should vote for - style, material, record label, nationality or whatever - they did say on what grounds people should vote: specifically, for the folk act/individual/album/etc that had had the most impact, not necessarily the best or their favourite. This obviously creates a bias towards honouring acts that are already successful - or, to put it another way, acts that would already be familiar to R2 listeners. Are those guidelines still in use? If not, what do they ask you to vote for? Or is it more a matter of a tap on the shoulder in a dark corner of C# House... psst, Raymond... it's that time again, know what I mean... you know what to do...<

Pip –

Without giving too much away, ahem (shut that door, pull down that blind...), it's still the case that several categories use the formulation "artist/duo/group making the most impact". Is this an invitation to dispassionately assess an artist's "impact" on the British folk scene? If so, given that Bellowhead have allegedly shifted 60,000 units of Hedonism, there can be no contest for Best Group. But in practice, I suspect, lots of other considerations probably come into play, and not least of these are a jurist's own tastes. If I loathed Bellowhead, they probably wouldn't get my vote. So "impact" , I'd guess, means "impact on me" as well as "impact on the wider folk scene". That's always been my interpretation, at any rate.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 07:48 AM

Raymond and Ken - thanks for the vote of confidence for Folk Police stuff! I work on the basis that, as a new label, Folk Police are unlikely to be on the radar enough to be considered for inclusion. And that's ok. And in any case, we're far more Six Music than we are Radio Two...

Meanwhile, I still want to find a band that plays traditional music and sounds like the MC5, Wooden Shjips, Sun Ra, Crazy Horse, Mr Fox, Nusrat Fatah Ali Khan, The Allman Brothers and Boards of Canada all pulverised in a big old blender. With a singer who sounds like Lizzie Higgins.

Any takers?

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Mavis Enderby
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 08:07 AM

Gemma,

Thanks for the link. It's a interesting blog and just the sort of thing we probably need much more of.

Keep us updated on your investigations!

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 11:47 AM

"There are rules, but they are largely procedural. Smooth Ops supplies no guidelines as to who does or does not qualify. Jurists, I'd guess, make commonsense assumptions, and if enough of them voted for The Krar Collective or even Alistair Roberts, they'd be up there. That there are no artists in the final line-up from Spleen's record label is in spite of my most strenuous efforts."

This is about what I'd expect: there's no conspiracy, it's simply that the Awards reflect the rather middle-of-the-road and unadventurous tastes of the panel.

There is no real reason why Rapunzel & Sedayne couldn't be nominated for the awards - they have, after all, received more press in mainstream media than many other nominated acts have in the past. But it's inconceivable. It's not that they're "not on their radar", it's just the jury simply don't like that sort of music.

I mean Alasdair Roberts is an excellent case in point. He's on album number 6, all of them having been covered in both folk press and mainstream press. He's revived a Scots mummers tradition (Galoshins) and toured it; he writes the title-track (Hyperboreans) of an album for Jackie Oates and it receives a nomination. Emily Portman does guest backing vocals on his sixth album; she has received a nomination. To my mind it's clear that Emily Portman or Jim Moray are as far as the jury's taste gets in terms of "edgy".

It's no big deal in the grand scheme of things, but I do think it's a shame that the R2 awards always have and always will be so conservative. Maybe it's about time fRoots and Spiral Earth and others teamed up to host a small-scale annual alternative folk awards to celebrate the non-Smashie & Nicey stuff?

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,matt milton
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 11:47 AM

above=me again

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,raymond greenoaken
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 12:05 PM

I guess if you gather 170 folk enthusiasts together and see what tastes they share, you're likely to get a pretty middle of the road result.

As it happens I nominated Rapunzel & Sedayne in a couple of categories. Clearly nobody else did...

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 12:43 PM

Does that mean I can use 'Nominated for BBC2 Folk Award' on our publicity now, Raymond?

Otherwise, what's all the fuss about?

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,raymond greenoaken
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 03:52 PM

Suibhne –

strictly speaking I suppose you could, but it would be a bit cheeky. If x numbers of my fellow jurors (whoever they are) had voted for Rapunzel & Sedayne along with me, R&S would have made the shortlist and could justifiably proclaim themselves nominees. It's making that shortlist that really counts.

Fuss – what fuss,ahem...?

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 22 Nov 11 - 04:12 PM

I jest of course. And besides, we don't do publicity. Nor yet do we crave any higher status than that which the fates bestow on us. Be Glad, as we old heads still mutter as our mantra...

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: LesB
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 08:32 AM

I am delighted to see our own (Bothy's) Kevin Littlewood being nominated for Best Original Song with 'On Morecambe Bay'.
As previously posted Kevins own version can be see here Youtube
Also it is available on the Bothy residents CD 'Residents Lounge' available here Abicat only £5
I am sure we would all wish him and Christie Moore good luck despite your views on the rights and wrongs of the awards.
Cheers
Les

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,Mad Spaniel
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 08:52 AM

The finalists don't reflect the way i voted with the exception of Bellowhead for the live award.
Maybe the voting is so widespread and various that the ones who get the nod for the final four are in the end condensation of this wonderful and varied world we inhabit rather than a reflection of it?
I don't have a conspiracy thoery about it. Just see and hear so many wonderful players that i don't think ANY awards would ever really do it justice

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,Pete Rimmer
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 11:03 AM

Great to see Kevin's Song doing well.
His recording on Bothy Folk Club CD is quite different,well worth listen.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: GUEST,Azoic
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 01:42 PM

A question for everyone-------When all is said and done ,which of the nominees are YOU most pulling for?

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 02:34 PM

I pull only for my own pleasure..
That is the only reward I require..
Wonder why I feel so drawn to these threads?
:)

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 06:16 PM

I still want to find a band that plays traditional music and sounds like the MC5, Wooden Shjips, Sun Ra, Crazy Horse, Mr Fox, Nusrat Fatah Ali Khan, The Allman Brothers and Boards of Canada all pulverised in a big old blender. With a singer who sounds like Lizzie Higgins.

A track I finished this evening ended up sounding like Augustus Pablo jamming with the Burundi drummers and Faust, with a singer with a fake American accent. No idea how that happened.

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 06:44 PM

Pip, you're talking my language!

Subject: RE: BBC Radio 2 Folk Nominations - 2012
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 24 Nov 11 - 06:19 AM

Watch this space!