PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: GUEST,Greycap
Date: 20 Jan 09 - 07:24 PM

Well, thank you, Captain Birdseye.
I'm tickled, oh, and I don't owe money to lots of innocent punters who deserve a fair deal and aren't getting it.

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: GUEST,yoyo
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 11:46 AM

Have any of u even met Simon Boak?

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: theleveller
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 12:13 PM

Never met him but he did ring me up and spent around 20 minutes on the phone towards the end of last year, explaining what had happened. I really do believe that he wanted to organise a really good folk event (and make money, of course). He said that he had advice from someone prominent in the folk scene in Whitby. I must say that I don't think he's a conman (but, then, I did get my money back). I do, however, think that he's guilty of a big breach of good faith in promising refunds that he hasn't delivered. I suspect that he simply hasn't got the money to make the refunds at the moment - whether he will in the future is anyone's guess.

As for a folk festival in the Pickering area on the May Bank Holiday weekend - I, for one, will be going to Ryedale Folk Weekend just up the road in Hutton-le-Hole, same as I did last year. Brilliant little festival! Hope to see some of you there.

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 06:53 PM

I do know Simon quite well for many years, doing Health and Safety and Food Hygiene consultancy for him at his Steam Traction events. He is without doubt a nice man, but unfortunatly his luck and business sense lets him down quite often.

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Jan 09 - 06:56 AM

leveller,yes,Iam booked to be therehttp://www.dickmiles.com

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: GUEST,Qwertyco
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 08:58 AM

The Events Office website:

http://pickeringfolkfestival.theeventsoffice.co.uk

is now defunct!,
though the elusive Mr.B is still to be found in the area.

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 09:13 AM

QUOTE:
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 23 Jan 09 - 06:53 PM

"I do know Simon quite well for many years, . . . . . . He is without doubt a nice man".




Perhaps he'd be "Nice" enough to give me back the £300 he owes me.

How much does he owe you?

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: Nick
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 02:25 PM

>>Simon Boak is just a business man who has made a mistake. All his other events are very good.

If his other events are very good he'd presumably have made enough money to reimburse those he has not so far repaid

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 02:37 PM

business men and thieves,now this is interesting,the two are sometimes interchangeable,.
just take a look at what happened in Iceland,and next it seems someone called Stanford is going to be accused of fraud,they are all good businessmen ,or are they good thieves? .
who cares what they are called.
all that matters is that they return the money ,to those ,that they have taken it from .

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: GUEST,Dravinger
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 05:50 PM

Well it looks like the "Yorkshire Folk Festival" we were offered free tickets to isn't going to happen either - the weekend of 23rd 24th and 25th May is now the dates for the Yorkshire Food Festival at the Pickering Show Ground http://www.theeventsoffice.co.uk/ and I guess that will probably sink into the Pickering mud too especially if Mr Boak has anything to do with it.

I might have lost only £80 (which my credit card company won't refund as it's under the £100 threshold) on the tickets but it's the 500 mile round trip for nothing and a disappointed family that really p***ed me off.

It also looks like the bands haven't been paid or compensated either for the last minute cancellation. I found this on The Waterboys web site:


PICKERING FESTIVAL REFUNDS UPDATE
27th Jan 2009

Many people have contacted us to say they still haven't received ticket refunds for the cancelled Pickering Festival of last August. We're very sorry to hear this but not surprised, because The Waterboys haven't been paid either despite the show being cancelled only the day before and the band having already incurred costs in advance. Anyone still waiting for refunds is advised to report the matter to The Trading Standards and Consumer Advice Office, 9 St Leonard's Place, York YO1 7ET. Or you could try chasing the promoter: Simon Boak, The Events Office, PO Box 1, Pickering, North Yorkshire, YO18 7YG. Telephone; 01751 473780. Good luck!

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: Qwertyco
Date: 25 Feb 09 - 07:58 AM

I have been in contact with the new owner of the Pickering Showground, Mr.H.
He phoned me personally, and has supplied me with the following, which seems to clarify a lot of the rumour and gossip surrounding this whole sorry affair.

Mr.H. Bought the showground, and it's associated websites last year.
He employs two of the former events office staff, to man his new company.
Simon Boak has no connection with the new company.
He has no responsibility for Mr.Boak's debts, past, present or future!
He is offering complimentary tickets (for 2008 ticketholders) for the 2009 festival purely as an act of goodwill.

Looks like the trail ends firmly at Mr. Boak's door!

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: GUEST,jacobsgoldmine
Date: 26 Jun 09 - 12:47 PM

I would question if Mr Boak has anything to do with the new company, if so why was he handing out money on the showfield at Selby stem fair to the traction engine exhibitors????? 2 weekends ago

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 07 Jul 09 - 05:34 AM

Should the last message be removed

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 09 Jul 09 - 07:47 AM

Obviously the message I referred to was removed.

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: GUEST,Dorothy and Simon Haskins
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 04:21 PM

Hi We are at a total loss as we don't know how to get our money back. We paid for a full weekend and camping.
We would appreciate any advice.
Cheers
Best wishes
Dorothy and Simon

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: GUEST,Dorothy and Simon Haskins
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 04:29 PM

Hi did you have any luck getting your money back?
Fedup!
Dorothy ansd Simon

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: GUEST,Just trying to help
Date: 22 Jul 09 - 05:51 PM

It is clear that Simon Boak is still involved, at least with the steam rallies which are as chaotically organised as ever.

The following press story seems to suggest that the new company is paying off some creditors in part, but maybe not all creditors are involved in this arrangement?

http://www.maltonmercury.co.uk/news/Collapse-ofevents-firm.5034298.jp

Hope this helps.

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 05:17 AM

Unwelcome news to those owed money.

There has been aledgedly even more trouble concerning the organisers following severe problems at the showground on Sunday.
I enclose a press release from "The Press" in York

"Police called after Pickering Traction Engine Rally exhibitors block exits
8:37am Monday 10th August 2009


POLICE were called to a huge steam show in North Yorkshire after a sudden dispute led to angry exhibitors blocking the exits.
A row over the arrangements for the Pickering Traction Engine Rally flared during the final stages of its four-day stay at the town's showground following what stallholders say was an unexpected and "fiery" afternoon meeting with organisers.
It led to lorries, trucks and some of the vehicles on show at the event – which is believed to have attracted more than 50,000 visitors – being used to blockade the exits to the venue. Police were eventually able to clear the way after 5pm.
The reasons for the protest are unclear, but the company behind the rally – Leeds-based Events & Exhibitions Ltd – was unavailable for comment yesterday, despite repeated attempts by The Press to contact them.
One of the show's exhibitors, who did not want to be named, said: "We were all called into a meeting at about 3pm and were told there had been some problems – it was certainly fiery.
"Everybody was furious afterwards and the next thing we knew people were loading up their vehicles and taking them round to block the entrances to the showground, saying they weren't leaving until they got answers on certain things.
"Nobody who can tell us exactly what has been happening seems to have been around, but there has been a lot of anger."

Both the new owners and the original owners were allegedly involved in the dispute.

This "may" result in even less a chance of anyone receiving a refund from anyone.

Subject: RE: PickeringFolkFestival Are you owed money
From: GUEST,John Robinson
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 08:01 AM

There is much claim and counter claim going on at the www.tractiontalkforum.com forum, including Simon Boak and another director of the company, Arthur Harris, having a public disagreement about their budgeting and financial responsibilities.

I think you have to be registered to read the threads.