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River Songs

Haruo 07 May 13 - 03:29 PM
Airymouse 07 May 13 - 05:23 PM
Tattie Bogle 08 May 13 - 04:52 AM
kendall 08 May 13 - 06:33 AM
Dave the Gnome 08 May 13 - 07:33 AM
Haruo 10 May 13 - 12:19 AM
GUEST,Phil d'Conch 16 Jan 23 - 05:34 PM
GUEST,Phil d'Conch 16 Jan 23 - 05:37 PM
Tim K 18 Jan 23 - 11:41 PM
GUEST,Phil d'Conch 26 Jan 23 - 04:29 PM
GUEST,Phil d'Conch 26 Jan 23 - 04:31 PM
GUEST,Phil d'Conch 26 Jan 23 - 04:37 PM
GUEST,saulgoldie 27 Jan 23 - 07:35 AM
GUEST,James 27 Jan 23 - 08:16 PM
leeneia 01 Feb 23 - 12:57 PM
Dave the Gnome 01 Feb 23 - 01:24 PM
GUEST,Phil d'Conch 01 Feb 23 - 01:55 PM
GUEST,Wee Westmorland 01 Feb 23 - 10:46 PM
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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Haruo
Date: 07 May 13 - 03:29 PM

Skyway, just SE of Seattle. It's unlikely I'll be up anytime soon, but you never know. I have my passport. ;-) Will be going (unexpectedly) to Oaxaca next month, looking forward to some Mazatec hill music there, and there will doubtless be some sing-alongs at NOREK (Esperanto regional meeting) on Vancouver Island in September. Looks like your songcircles are generally on Wednesdays, and as luck would have it I generally have Wednesday and Thursday off, which would make that an ideal evening to be out of town... We'll see...

Haruo


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Airymouse
Date: 07 May 13 - 05:23 PM

Shawneetown (Way down the Ohio to Shawneetown)
On the banks of the Merrimesee (Some Canadian mudcat can correct my spelling)
Down by the Salley Gardens (In a field by the RIVER, my love and I did stand)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 08 May 13 - 04:52 AM

A quick trip round Scotland:

Both Sides the Tweed
Braw Lads o Gala Water
Annan Water
Ye Banks and Braes o Bonnie Doon
The Banks of Nith
The Banks of the Devon
Song of the Clyde
Fairfield Crane
Smugglers
The Shores of the Forth
The Last of the Ferries
Guiding Light
The Silvery Tay
Newport Braes
Back o Bennachie (Dee and Don)
Braes o Sutherland (Oykel)
Roving Ploughboy (Deveron)

and probably a good few more I've missed! (And another whole lot re Lochs!)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: kendall
Date: 08 May 13 - 06:33 AM

The Jam on Gerry's Rock.On the Machias river.

Mississippi River Blues:
"Oh you Mississippi River, with waters so deep and wide;
My thoughts of you keep rising, just like an evening tide." (Jimmy Rodgers, Hank Snow).

That line from American Pie:..."drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry"...I used to think that was just silly contrived lame poetry, but then someone told me that in this case, the Levee is the name of a bar.
I still don't know.

Sweet Bird of Youth: "Rolling river, take me away,
I heard you travel on to brighter days,
And I'd like to ride upon the crest of a single wave"...(David Mallett)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 May 13 - 07:33 AM

This is the nicest River Song I know. :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Haruo
Date: 10 May 13 - 12:19 AM

In Esperanto we have (from the Scottish Gaelic, I think; it's Hebridean anyhow) Vokas la rivero (MIDI).

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Lorelei.

Haruo


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 16 Jan 23 - 05:34 PM

Origins: The Brazos River / Rivers of Texas
Lyr/Chords Req: Rivers of Texas


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 16 Jan 23 - 05:37 PM

From: GUEST,banjoman
Date: 29 Aug 06 - 06:30 AM

What about the Ohio Boatman's Song...?

Is there a tread for this song?


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: HEALING RIVER (Hellerman&...)
From: Tim K
Date: 18 Jan 23 - 11:41 PM

Healing River's a great song I haven't seen mentioned. My notes say it was written by Fred Hellerman and Fran Minkoff, and Pete Seeger and recorded it on 1964's I Can See a New Day.

The lyrics:

O healing river, send down your waters
Send down your waters upon this land
O healing river, send down your waters
To wash the blood from off the sand

This land is thirsting, this land is parching
No seed is growing in the barren ground
This land is thirsting, this land is parching
O healing river, send your water down

        Let the seed of freedom, awake and flourish
        Let the deep roots nourish, let the tall stalk rise
        Oh seed of freedom, awake and flourish
        Proud leaves uncurling, into the skies

For what it's worth, my simplification of the chords Pete plays go like this, transcribed Rise Up Singing style:

1st verse
G D G C / G A DA D / G B7 Em A / G AmD GC G [1st v.]

2nd verse: same as first, but end of B7 instead of G               

3rd verse:
Em — B7 — / Em A DA D / G B7 Em A / G AmD GC G


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 04:29 PM

RE: Ohio Boatman –– No lyrics or music and the title keeps changing ever so slightly but it's always the Hutchinsons.

“Perhaps too large a proportion of their programme is devoted to painful subjects to be acceptable in this careworn land of ours; at least one or two catches sung with great neatness and an Ohio boatman's Glee, (a far-off cousin to 'The Canadian Boat Song.') fell upon the ear very cheerily after the graver ditties.”
[The Eclectic Magazine, Vol.7, 1846]
Hutchinson Family Singers

Note: The 1845 tour of great Britain was by the Hutchinson Family quartet. There was a much later political adaptation of Emmett's De Boatmnan's Daunce for Abraham Lincoln's run, but nothing c.1840s as yet.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 04:31 PM

One source, three titles:

“SCOTLAND
Soon, the Hutchinsons grouped themselves, as if by some irresistible attraction, and sang piece after piece, to the rapture of their hearers. Those who had heard them sing “The Cot where We were Born,” "The Ohio Boatman,” and “Excelsior,” may conceive something of our delight. And, of all things to be doing, they were teaching us to play “Fox and Geese” on the green below. They themselves played with great humor; and in the midst of our fun, I saw that all the servants of the house were looking on from the corner of the terrace, and not a few laborers from outside the gate.

ENGLAND
...On one occasion we were at his concert and agreed to sing on the chorus of one of his songs. We were behind a screen, out of sight of the audience, and when we struck into the chorus of the “Boatmen of the Ohio,” it seemed as if the house would come down….”

AMERICAN SONGS
...In London Mrs. Charles Dickens became their friend and invited them on one occasion to make a morning call at her house for the express purpose of singing to her father, William Hogarth, who was a musical critic of considerable repute and influence. When the Hutchinsons arrived at the appointed morning, and were introduced to a particularly cold and very serious old gentleman who seated himself stiffly at the farther end of the room, evidently prepared for the worst, their hearts misgave them. Without much reflection they struck up the “Ohio Boatman's Song.” and went through it so successfully that the stern censor at the other end of the parlor literally flew to shake them, individually, by the hand, and to assure them he has never before listened to such delicious harmony.”
[Story of the Hutchinsons (tribe of Jesse), Vol.I-III, Hutchinson, 1896]


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 26 Jan 23 - 04:37 PM

"Ohio boating-lay..." is the closest reference I could find that does not link to the Hutchinsons. But no music or lyrics for this one either:

“Scene, the Thames. The Tipperary skiff is making her way with the tide. EVERARD CLIVE and the TRAVELLING BACHELOR are at the oars; the WHISKEY-DRINKER and the FENMAN are in the stern-sheets.

WHISKEY-DRINKER.
Ease off a little, Everard––the tide will carry her on––and give us some of your conversation, such as it is.

EVERARD CLIVE.
Easy it is. We'll just give a stroke or two to guide her, and draw it mild down to Kew. Bachelor, you will not object to a little “otium cum dignitate,” I suppose.

TRAVELLING BACHELOR.
Certainly not. We, “Laboriosi remiges Ulyssei,” have brought her smartly enough down from Twickenham. Drinker, give us the Canadian boat song.

EVERARD CLIVE.
Let us have something a little more novel. The Ohio boating-lay for instance. Or is there any song from the Oregon streams? I wonder whether the Yankees will get up any boat-races on the Columbia.

FENMAN.
They must get possession of it first, which will not be effected quite so easily, in spite of all the blustering of their press and orators. These “Sweet creatures of bombast” are like Falstaff, more prone to the exercise of the tongue than of the sword.”
[Tipperary Hall, No.V, Bentley's Miscellany, Vol.19, 1846]


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 27 Jan 23 - 07:35 AM

From the world of "country," if you care about these distinctions:

"The River" by Garth Brooks.


Saul


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,James
Date: 27 Jan 23 - 08:16 PM

I'm very fond of A Gentle Easy-Flowing River by Alasdair Clayre. [Lyrics at Mudcat]


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: leeneia
Date: 01 Feb 23 - 12:57 PM

I told the Lester S. Levy Sheet Music Collection [that's a website of popular American tunes] to search for "the river", and it says it has 219 titles with those words in them.

Happy browsing.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Feb 23 - 01:24 PM

There is one mentioned in the thread on title puns

Song of the Vulgar boatman

The lyrics are too rude to publish:-)


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 01 Feb 23 - 01:55 PM

Archive.org lists a little over 3500 of just 78rpm recordings with "river" in the meta data.


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Subject: RE: River Songs
From: GUEST,Wee Westmorland
Date: 01 Feb 23 - 10:46 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHrmJWxpMhk Flow River


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Subject: Info Add: RAIN AND THE RIVER (Callahan, Fox)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 13 Feb 23 - 12:17 PM

I believe I have identified the song that several Mudcatters have quoted above:

RAIN AND THE RIVER
Words by J. Will Callahan (1874-1946); music by Oscar J. Fox (1879-1961); copyright 1936.
Sheet music published by: C.C. Birchard & Company, Boston.
First line of verse: River looks black with the shadows on it
First line of chorus: I loves the rain, and I loves the river
Sheet music held by (and this information provided by): Baylor University – Arts and Special Collections Research Center

Unfortunately, the sheet music is not viewable online because the song is still under copyright.

You might be able to find the sheet music in a library near you by following this link to WorldCat.org.

On YouTube, I found a recording by the 1983 Calhoun High School Concert Choir (of Merrick, NY) but some of the words are incomprehensible to me; you might have better success at transcribing it if you are aided by memory. I think I get the gist of it, though – and I find it rather incredible that a person would be so complacent about seeing his cabin and farm wiped out by a flood because he “loves the rain and … the river.” Are there racist assumptions built into this song? (The song seems to be written in dialect, so I assume the narrator is supposed to be black. Funny how we don’t question things if we grow up with them.)


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