'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971

Subject: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jun 05 - 05:42 PM

Clearing out some of my wife's stuff, I found a programme for the Folk Festival at Bardney in 1971. I just wondered if any other mudcatters were there - and if they had the same trouble getting home?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 03:55 AM

I remember riding on a trailer behind a tractor and paying some extortionate fee for doing so! At that time I was working at Burtons the Tailors in Lincoln and my wife ran a Childrens Home on St Giles Estate. Great festival though:
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 04:41 AM

Didn't realise you were around in that era GS. did you ever get to the Grantham folk club - there used to be a bloke there called Roger the Postman who sang sea shanties.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: The Shambles
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 09:09 AM

Is it this one?

Subject: Where you there? Lincoln(UK) folk fest 1970?
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 18 Apr 99 - 07:50 PM

I was thinking of this one for anther thread but with my failing memory I was going to forget someone that was memorable..... Can anyone help me complete the list of artistes appearing?
This was for, what I think was a one off Festival, of all acoustic acts, but on the lines of the big rock festivals held at the time. It was held at Lincoln UK in 1969, 70 or 71... I wonder why I can't remember it better?

I suppose this is a bit of a long shot but there were a lot of people there after all, so there must be someone out there who can help. They will surely will never forget the toilets, which was a long trench, well I won't go into that now, but I nearly did then!


Sandy Denny Band
The Incredible String Band
The Byrds
Buffy St Marie
James Taylor
Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee
Dion



That list was in no order at all.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 11:21 AM

Yes Shambles..that's the one...I thought Buffy St Marie was tremendous. Of all of her songs, I think the theme song from "Soldier Blue" was by far the best....Julie Felix, who is still around and appearing at Gainsborough Folk Festival this year. Brian...(forget his surname) from Lancashire. My memory of it is also a bit fuddled but so was my head at the time.
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: The Shambles
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 02:24 PM

A few more -

Tom Paxton, Tim Hardin, Pentangle, Steeleye Span, Ralph Mctell, Dave Swarbrick and Martin Carthy.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,John Rouse
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 04:57 PM

"A concert of Contemporary and Traditional Folk Music, Tupholme Manor Park, Tupholme, Bardney, Nr Lincoln. Saturday July 24th.

Welcome to Tupholme Manor Park. We have tried to present a varied bill from the world of Traditional and Contemporary Folk Music and have placed the emphasis on quality throughout the entire programme. We hope you will enjoy todays concert. Frederick Bannister Productions Ltd."

List of artists in order of appearance

Ralph McTell
Steeleye Span
Tim Hardin
Pentangle
Dion
Incredible String Band
Buffy Sainte Marie
Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee
Tom Paxton
The Byrds
Sandy Denny
James Taylor
Dave Swarbrick and Martin Carthy

I still have the tickets - an all day ticket was £2.

My two memories are sitting on the front bumper of Tom Paxtons roller talking to Ralph McTell amidst a fog of wacky backy fumes, and making our way across a muddy field to the strains of Buffy Sainte Marie, trying to find our way back to the bus stop. Needless to say we missed the train home and spent the night on Lincoln Bus Station.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 21 Jun 05 - 05:03 PM

That has brought even more memories flooding back...I followed Steeleye Span for years.....Spent time chatting to Pentangle and Ralph Mc Tell.....Amazing how memories re-appear.
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 01:51 AM

Thats good then Mike - something has got your brain working again LOL :-)

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 03:59 AM

Just need to work on yours now Les! LOL

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 11:27 AM

I must have seen all the acts on the bill but it is interesting how few of these performances I can bring to mind. Not too sure what this means however? Most probably it means that only a few of the perfomances were truly memorable.......

Sonny and Brownie - James Taylor I do remember enjoying very much but Buffy St Marie really stands out. However, I was surprised then how much the performance of The Byrds easily eclipsed everyone else on the bill.

But I do have a general feeling that this was a festival that I enjoyed a lot. And whatever substances were then fuddling my mind - I will never be able to forget every detail of the toilets.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 04:45 PM

I suppose you had to 'bring that up' Shambles!

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 07:46 PM

The main toilets consisted of a pit about 8 ft deep - 12ft wide and about 50ft long. Suspended over this was some rough planking devided into back to back cubicles with a hole cut for one's bum.

Sitting there was a real all-round sensual pleasure and even if you did not use your eyes to look down - you could still smell and hear all the contributions of your neighbours falling to the bottom - with a resounding splat!

Perhaps if I write about this experience - I will be able to forget it?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Jun 05 - 03:02 AM

I see that it is possible to buy a poster of this event - on the following site.

http://rockmusicmemorabilia.com/posters.html

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Lissa
Date: 04 Jan 09 - 06:05 AM

I remember this as one of the best festivals I ever went to. The Incredible String Band were brilliant. Buffy St Marie was great too. I remember having a very brief hallucination that James Taylor was playing a serpent and not a guitar. This was probably provoked by all the signs about there being adders in the woods.

It was a really friendly festival.

Yes I did have some trouble getting away and ended up walking to town on a very misty morning/dawn with a few other people so that I could catch a coach home. This was a very magical walk and has stuck in my memory ever since. It was just like that line from a String Band song about the misty, twisty day.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,John (Jockey) McVey
Date: 05 May 09 - 12:48 PM

I remember building a wooden shack with old bits of wood, plastic bags n' straw. Called it "Lovesville"

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 05 May 09 - 01:49 PM

I thought this thread had died... It makes me feel OLD!!!! I'll probably die before it does!

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: skipy
Date: 05 May 09 - 04:14 PM

I was there! I still have my prog. & ticket, it was where I first saw Harvey Andrews, the rest is history!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,DeltaFred
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 05:51 PM

I think that John Rouse has the acts in the wrong order. That is maybe the order they should have performed. I remember walking from the car park listening to Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee quite early on, we were there all day and did not miss much. Buffy Sainte Marie was definitely after them. The stand out act for me was Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee but I am an old blues fan. It was a really friendly festival and very enjoyable. Does anyone else remember the ritual torching of the toilets after dark, best thing for them unless you really needed them, but by that time no one cared.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jun 09 - 07:28 PM

John Chambers who runs the 2nd time round folk club in Beeston Nottingham was there - I think he told me, he did a spot.

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 09:01 AM

Hey I remember seeing Dick Appleton going all misty eyed over this festival.
So I guess he is older than he looks even?

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Banjiman
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 09:28 AM

I think my Mum was there. I'll check this weekend and see if she has a tale or two.

Paul

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,Dad.
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 11:20 AM

She will have :-)

Dad.

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Rasener
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 11:22 AM

Oh dear a banjidad :-)

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Banjiman
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 11:26 AM

He'll be calling from the great Morris Dance in the sky then.

I knew Mudcat was special but I din't know we had links up there......

He wouldn't have been there, far to newfangled and no Morris to play for..... unless anyone knows different?

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Rasener
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 11:39 AM

So who is Guest dad then. Mine is also up there, so I doubt its him.

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 09:47 AM

Threads like this are the reason for GigMemories - a Global Gig Archive !!!

http://www.gigmemories.com

If anyone has any definitive lists of who was on where, and when, get them posted on this site :-)

Pa

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: doncatterall
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 07:41 AM

Drove there from Manchester in an old ford van I had just bought - my mate Eric (Rowan) accompanied me as I hadn't passed my driving test - wonder where he is now??

Brilliant festival - remember watching Carthy & Swarb as the last act by the light of the blazing bogs!

Don

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,isitthatlongago!
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 11:44 PM

I was 18 and off to Manchester University that year. My best friend's Dad drove us from Nottingham and got as close as he could then left us to walk across fields to the concert area. It seemed to take forever and we had no idea if we were ever going to get there.

Eventually we found the concert area but wee must have been at least 200 yrds from the stage.

My most vivid memories were:
1. The Byrds (who had been billed to play an "acoustic" set) played their first song with acoustic guitars. Then one group member said something like "that wasn't what you came here to hear" and they picked up their electric guitars and rocked through their set much to the audiences appreciation.

2. By mid afternoon there was a cloud over the whole audience area. No it wasn't about to rain, everybody was just getting high and we didn't even have to pay for it :)

3. One of the English groups, I think it was Steeleye Span started playing a gig and everybody started clapping along. But they suddenly stopped and asked the back half of the audience to stop clapping. It was so far back from the stage that by the time the sound reached the group there was actually a delay and they couldn't follow the beat.

4. James Taylor was definitely the star of the show. I think he started his set just before midnight and nobody wanted it to end

Then in the early hours of Sunday morning we walked back through the fields and the stink of the ditches used as toilets, to find my friends father patiently waiting for us to return

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 07:57 AM

I was 11 LOL

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: oggie
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 06:15 PM

Lincoln Morris Men were around in 1971 (Banjiman's dad was the musician) but we didn't get an invite :(

Steve

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: oggie
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 06:20 PM

The following year they held "The Great Western Express" rock festival on the same site with a good bunch of folkes also in attendence.


Lincoln Rock Festival


All the best

Steve

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,Mystic Mel
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:53 AM

I remember that Byrds guitarist Clarence White played a "stringbender"
Fender Telecaster which he had invented.It sounded just like a
Steel guitar and funnily enough my mate has got one now They also played
a song called "Antique Sandy" which McGuinn claimed they had wrote
backstage and Ive never seen on record.Their set was absolutely
stunning.

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Banjiman
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 06:17 AM

Oggie, here's one you will appreciate!

You are correct that Lincoln Morris Men didn't get invited to the festival. I checked with my Mum.

In fact Lincoln Morris Men and Lincoln Folk Dancers did a display in a hall in Woodhall Spa on the same day. This was memorable for my Mum as apparently she got left behind by my Dad as she was sweeping up in the hall following the display. This meant that she ended up having to get a lift home on the back of Andy Francis's motorbike in full "folk dancing kit".

The route back to Lincoln (and home) from Woodhall Spa goes straight through Bardney where the Folk Festival was taking place. The sight of her on the back of said motorbike apparently raised a few eye brows (and she claims a few wolf whistles!) from the trendy young things milling about outside the festival.

I do vaguely remember ( I was 6) several days of stoney silence in the Arrowsmith household after this event....... my Dad was not popular!

Paul

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 05:30 AM

Yep, I was there too (18) My most vivid memory is Buffy Sainte-Marie. She looked fantastic in electric blue tight trousers (very fitting for a rendition of Soldier Blue) and a red shiny top. I saw her last night at the Queen Elisabeth Hall (Southbank, London) She still looks amazingly good (given she's 68!)

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,alan
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 08:18 AM

I was at Tupholme manor park,July 24th 1971 and have the program.It was the best one day concert i had ever been to.line up in order of appearance, Ralph Mctell,Steeleye Spam,Tim Hardin,Pentagle,Dion,Incredible String Band,Buffy Sainte Maria,Sonny Terry and Brownie Mcghee,Tom Paxton,The Byrds Sandy Denny,James Taylor,Dave Swarbrick and Martin Carthy.I also remember the large house behind the stage.Does any one know if there is any photos on a web page xxx

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,Simon
Date: 21 May 10 - 06:25 PM

Thanks for sharing those memories ... they awoke long dormant memories of my own. I was 19 & touring haphazardly around England for a couple of months that summer going from one music gig or festival to another interspersed with free B&B + laundry stops with various tolerant relatives and friends. Someone had told me that James Taylor was playing at the Festival and it had not been that many months before since an American friend in Jamaica (where I was living at the time) had introduced me to the Sweet Baby James album. I really loved that album & had been playing it over and over for a good while ... so I hitched to Lincoln. Don't know how close I got though because I remember walking for more than a few hours to actually reach the festival site.

Was it really just £2 to get in? Amazing!

Before finding this thread after after just typing in Lincoln 1971 (isn't the internet great when you get bored and nostalgic!) I could only partially remember bits of the sets James Taylor & Buffy Sainte-Marie played ... (really great - the first time I saw either of them play). I had attributed my limited recollections to the good herb available and also because I got pretty friendly during the show with this cute lady I'd met up there. However, having read the earlier posts I actually do now recall snatches of Pentangle, Incredible String Band, Tom Paxton playing and how could I have forgotten The Byrds?!

I must have crashed out at some point in the night towards the back of the field in front of the stage. I clearly remember groggily waking up to find that incarnation of Venus I had gotten to know a few hours earlier looking over at me with a big smile while she made love to another guy inside a sleeping bag next to me. No problem ..it was cool. We were not alone that morning as there must have been dozens of others either sleeping or getting up in that muddy debris strewn field. Anyway, it was pretty uncomfortable once awake so the three of us smoked a joint for breakfast after the goddess and her new partner finished their constricted aerobic session and then I suppose I must have headed off for some food & a ride to somewhere else...

Great music and good memories! What more can one want from a music festival....

Walk good.

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 07:57 PM

the setlist is wrong buffy sainte-marie played after midnight cause my girlfriend got cold during james taylor and had to go so i missed her best festival ive been to highlites ralph mctell tom paxton dion james taylor and the byrds good times

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,Alan Watson
Date: 30 Jun 10 - 05:55 AM

•Buffy Sainte Marie
•Dave Swarbrick and Martin Carthy
•Dion
Belatedly hope this helps

•Incredible String Band
•James Taylor
•Pentangle
•Ralph McTell
•Sandy Denny
•Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee
•Steeleye Span
•The Byrds
•Tim Hardin
•Tom Paxton
•The Byrds were booked to play an acoustic set, but because of the fantastic way they went down playing electric at the previous year's Bath Festival, they again stole the show by being the only band to play an electric set, on the day.
•It was described as a very successful, trouble-free event.

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,Guest from Brooklyn NY
Date: 08 Aug 10 - 02:20 PM

I was 17 and living in Paris going to the Sorbonne learning french that summer after graduating high school and before going off to the University of Michigan Art School that fall. I lived at Cite Universitaire in the American House. A bunch of people heard about the concert in Lincoln so we divided up and hitched there. I went with a guy I had just met, we got rides from truck drivers, slept in a tent on camp grounds and made it to Calais where we took the hovercraft over to Dover. We got to London somehow and then took the train up to Lincoln.
We spent the night with about 200 other people in a salvation army building.
The next morning I left my companion, who I didn't really like and met up with two British guys. It was about 5 am and they stole someone's milk from their door step which we shared and then walked to the concert site through the sleeping town. We sneaked onto the site through a hole in the fence.

I remember the crowds and getting high and hanging out with these two nice guys. I loved the music, and wasn't too familiar with a lot of the groups, really being a rock and roll American girl. I remember James Taylor, and had hopes that Carole King would show, but she didn't.
Amazingly enough, in the days before the ubiquitous cell phone and gps
my friends found me!
After the concert ended we hitched a ride with some locals to the train station, and managed somehow to get back to Paris. Someone had some money, I was broke

It was great fun, and I never told my parents.....hitch hiking was a big no no! They never let me go to Woodstock so this was payback!

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,Strummin Steve
Date: 08 Aug 10 - 06:41 PM

Antique Sandy is a fine song & is on the Byrds "Father Along" album

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,Martyn Williams - now of Portugal
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 07:27 PM

I was there as a 16 year kid. I was told I couldn't go, but went anyway. My friend and I travelled up from South Wales, hitching and catching buses. We slept the night before in one of the old style bus shelters. Shared it with some Hell's Angels!
The best festival I've ever been too. Ralph McTell opened and The Byrds were amazing. But those toilets ... and the girls seated the other side of the fence watching!!!
Took us 3 days to hitch back home. I walked in the house and my dad just said, 'You're back then?' Was I relieved!

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,yippee
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 05:38 PM

Re the girls on the other side of the fence, Martyn, they came with us in our Commer hippy van and yes they were all quite stunning (or was that stunned?). We were very radical at that time and thought all festivals ought to be free. Looking at the bands who were playing I can't believe we regarded £2 as a capitalist ripoff, but we all sat in the field until the security staff had so many complaints they came over and begged us to come in for free but not tell anyone. They were really nice guys. The only band I can remember with any sort of clarity were the Byrds. We were flying much too high for folk music and so left quite early for the seaside. I daren't tell you everything we got up to in the next 48hrs but all those implicated agreed it was fairly freaky and most enjoyable. Pre-watershed highlights were the clutch pedal breaking off(!!!)and having to be replaced by a pull string operated from the passenger seat (think about it); three dimensional caterpillar races on a busy coastal path; a darts match in a violent thunderstorm; running out of petrol at 2am in the middle of nowhere and being confronted by a hysterical woman in a night dress & curlers, toting a loaded shotgun; a 20 mile high speed drive in a police car with lights and hooter in the middle of the night to get petrol from an unmanned pump in Nottinghamshire and then telling the policeman I hadn't any money (if you are reading this mr pc thanks-you were amazing); climbing out of a stone sarcophagus at dawn in a mist-enveloped ruined Gothic abbey (Roche? Fountains? still no idea) just as the first tourists arrived. Golden days indeed.

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Deskjet
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 08:11 PM

Yippee....... Wow!

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: skipy
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 08:21 PM

I was there & I still have the original prog! It was there that I saw Harvey Andrews! The rest of it is history, e.g. Raf Coningsby folk club was formed 4 days later, Raf Luqa Malta, Raf Brize Norton, Raf Halton, followed by Stanford in the Vale folk festival, Folkforms, & White Horse folk festival, that weekend has a lot to answer for!
Skipy

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,guest - Jim Younger
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 08:26 PM

Yippee ... I echo Deskjet's Wow, and say Wow again. You should write a song about it. Very entertaining. Thanks.

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,neil
Date: 17 Oct 10 - 12:38 AM

Just saw Tom Paxton tonight and It bought back memories of the festival. Does anyone remember how Tim Hardin was ? , i was not overly impressed with Dion as I had no idea who he was back then .

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Oct 10 - 11:46 AM

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,guest - Jim Younger
Date: 16 Oct 10 - 08:26 PM

Still plugging away at stairway to heaven i'm afraid. But I am writing a book of hippy myths and tales that I have been collecting for about ten years. Some amazing things happened at that time. I'm trying to get it all down on paper before all the originals drift off to the great free fest in the sky! Keep on truckin'

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: GUEST,Steve & Marl
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 01:44 AM

We were in our very early twenties with a 3 year old daughter and a Basset Hound . We travelled up from Portsmouth in an old mini and squeezed two or three more people in during the long treck to the site. I remember the toilets and my wife going back to the farmhouse and telling them our daughter wouldn't use the site loos, so that she could use them herself. Fabulous line-up and a memorable festival.

Subject: RE: 'Lincoln' Folk festival July 1971
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 05:32 AM

I was at both the 1971 folk one, AND the Great Western Express one the following year. I was 16 in 1971and quite surprised my mum let me go.